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https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/29538/Etrian_Odyssey_Origins_Collection/

I have to admit, this has me really excited. EO is definitely 1# for games I wanted to get PC ports. Though it is pretty expensive.
Post edited February 09, 2023 by Crosmando
40 bucks and Denuvo for a barely improved 16-years-old DS game. Yup, that's definitely Sega.
Post edited February 09, 2023 by Grargar
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Grargar: 40 bucks and Denuvo for a barely improved 16-years-old DS game. Yup, that's definitely Sega.
I think the first two games might be the 3DS "Untold" remakes.
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Crosmando: I think the first two games might be the 3DS "Untold" remakes.
No, they are not. The Untold remakes have polygonal enemies. These "HD" versions still feature sprites just like the original releases do.
Post edited February 09, 2023 by Grargar
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Grargar: No, they are not. The Untold remakes have polygonal enemies. These "HD" versions still feature sprites as the original releases.
Oh, didn't notice that. I guess that means they want to re-release the Untold versions too.
If it didn't had Denuvo it would have been a yes for me... sadly it does and Sega is pretty bad at removing Denuvo after release :(
I never thought these games were that great. They were like a far more boring version of Lands of Lore.
On one hand, it's nice to have more Atlus games on PC. Sadly, the only PC option is Steam.
No Physical switch version, Denuvo DRM, $80 for the bundle is a hard pass for this. Sega is crazy.
I do remember enjoying Etrian Odyssey 1-3 on the Nintendo DS. (Didn't play the later games because my strict no-DRM policy meant no 3DS, and also means that, of course, I won't be getting these versions, but will instead replay the DS versions if I do decide to replay them.)

With that said, the games aren't without their issues.

Out of 1-3, Etrian Odyssey 1 is the only one to have boss fights be what I feel is the appropriate length. However, the game does have some balance issues, to the point where often there's only one obvious build for a class, but at least the game favors the sort of abilities I like (I like the EO1 Troubadour, for example, with the songs that grant HP/MP regeneration).

*EO1 spoilers about triggering content in the next paragraph*

Etrian Odyssey 1 does, however, have one extremely problematic plot element, to the point where I think a trigger warning is warranted, particularly if you're a member of an indigenous population. Thing is, you encounter some natives humanoids in the forest that you are sent to explore, are given the order to kill them just like you would other enemies, and you have no say in the manner. This, of course, did make me rather uncomfortable, and is problematic enough that it needs a trigger warning.

*End of EO1 spoilers*

(Worth noting that there is a major plot twist that happens after the incident I described above, which I won't spoil in this particular post.)

Etrian Odyssey 2 favors too aggressive a playstyle. It also really hurt my favorite EO1 class, the Troubadour, who no longer has the HP/MP regen abilities, and furthermore, the game has a tendency to punish the player for using the abilities, giving certain main story bosses an attack that does heavy damage and dispells at the same time. There's also the fact that the game favors a heavily aggressive approach to boss fights, resulting in them being resolved way too quickly; either you do enough damage to kill the boss before it has a chance to really do anything, or the boss kills you quickly.

Etrian Odyssey 3 is the most balanced of the first 3 games, and it has a completely different set of classes, as well as what I consider to be my favorite gimmick of the series in the last two strata. The one issue I have, however, is that boss fights take too long, and the boss theme doesn't help (EO1 and EO2 have good boss themes, but to me EO3's boss theme is garbage). (Essentially, this is the opposite of the problem EO2 had.)
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EverNightX: I never thought these games were that great. They were like a far more boring version of Lands of Lore.
I'd argue that these games aren't like Lands of Lore; they're more like Wizardry, but with more modernized game mechanics (which unfortunately means skill points). Specifically, the games are strictly turn-based (even outside of battle, unlike so many other games with turn-based combat), and combat takes place on a separate screen, rather than in the main environment. Lands of Lore, to my understanding, is more like Dungeon Master, with real-time gameplay and battles taking place in the same environment as exploration.
Post edited February 09, 2023 by dtgreene
I enjoyed the first game in the series, which is the only one I've played, and I guess I'll like the others too.
But yeah, DRMd and that price...
Doesn't look like a PC port to me, but a Steam port.
I don't mind those games in particular, nor I care that it is on steam. I'm just glad to see more Atlus games on pc so I remain hopeful that someday, just maybe, we might get some Vanillaware titles too.

Denuvo is a red flag though and all Atlus games got it, I think just with the exception of the first title on steam (Catherine) and some of their co-developed mobile titles on steam.

So yay new atlus release but it still kinda suckzballz, since they didn't remove denuvo from anything so far and seem to be really high on it. Makes the execs sleep better or something.
Obligatory wish list entry:
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/etrian_odyssey_origins_collection
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dtgreene: I'd argue that these games aren't like Lands of Lore; they're more like Wizardry, but with more modernized game mechanics (which unfortunately means skill points). Specifically, the games are strictly turn-based (even outside of battle, unlike so many other games with turn-based combat), and combat takes place on a separate screen, rather than in the main environment. Lands of Lore, to my understanding, is more like Dungeon Master, with real-time gameplay and battles taking place in the same environment as exploration.
I guess. They both are grid based movement. But Lands of Lore had a plot.