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General discussionHere's a message from a real GOG gamer. Release Devotion.(228 posts)(228 posts)
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Posted December 16, 2020
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Bring back Devotion on your store like you said you were, you pussies! Or is Chinese Winnie the Pooh handling your company now?
Posted December 16, 2020
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darthspudius: Shhh, those people do not exist and we're not allowed to think about it.
If they don't exist, then there's no one to be offended by posts critical of such, so it should be ok to be critical of such right? ;)

(also recently a thread on such non-existent types being offended, a thread related to gaming that was very civil is "no longer available"...odd ain't it?)

Also gonna leave it there...this thread should go back to the topic at hand(which is the game in the thread title, which seems very nice looking actually) so gonna leave this side topic at that for now.
Post edited December 16, 2020 by GamezRanker
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joelandsonja: I really hate how GOG gets thrown under the bus because of one decision. GOG has always been the one of the only companies fighting for the rights of gamers for well over a decade, so let's give them the respect they deserve.
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rtcvb32: Trust is like a glass of water. Glass is fragile, often it shatters totally destroying it, and not just having some cracks that seem iffy that can be fixed later.

I'd think more there's a certain level of expectations: Uncensored games, no DRM, working compatibility with offline installers.

GoG has refused to bring games here before, and continue to do so for... whatever reason... If they don't bring the game here the DRM isn't something they have to honor.

But i think it's the rest of it. Going with CCP which makes them on par with Disney (Disney, won't do filming in Georgia over pro-life laws, but go to China and film a movie a few miles from a concentration camp and they harvest organs), and you see them slipping and everything gets thrown into question. There is no middle grey area. You fully support or fully oppose.

I suppose more... A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.
I totally get that there are sensitive subjects when it comes to political matters, but when it comes down to it these companies should only be making decisions that are in the best interest of a company. I do agree that there's a lot of hypocrisy with the decisions made by some of these companies (like Disney), but it really isn't the responsibility of a company to get involved in political matters in the first place. It's GOG's primary responsibility to provide a product or service to their customers, but they really shouldn't have a say when it comes to making political statements. If China is threatening to ban them from selling their products if they sell a certain item (which I assume they are doing), then it would be in their best interest to not sell that item. It's not their responsibility to make political statements, it's their responsibility to sell products. This is something that the people of China should be protesting, not GOG.
Posted December 16, 2020
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joelandsonja: I really hate how GOG gets thrown under the bus because of one decision. GOG has always been the one of the only companies fighting for the rights of gamers for well over a decade, so let's give them the respect they deserve.

I realize that there's a lot to hate about political decisions regarding Communist China, but GOG really isn't responsible for what goes on in China. This may be an unpopular opinion to some, but It's the responsibility of the people of China to stand up for their rights, not random businesses that are just trying to make a living for themselves. They could either sell that game and risk being banned in China completely, or deal with the backlash for not selling it. I think they made the right choice.

There have been countless countries throughout history that have had to fight tooth and nail for the freedoms they now enjoy, and if the people of China want those same rights, they need to fight for it. This is what many of our ancestors fought and died for. It may not be easy, but if you want something bad enough nothing is going to stop you, not even the corrupt government of China.
You are aware of Tiananment Square right? Or Hong Kong 2019?
Posted December 16, 2020
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Ah, GOG, why don't you rename yourself to GOCAKG: Good Old Chinese Arse Kissing Games... You have found yourself in good and esteemed company, with the likes of Blizzard, the NBA, or even the illustrious BirdLife International.

Fuck, GOG, where do you think i am supposed to get a fix for my video games addiction now, hmm?
Should i start pestering Trey Parker and Matt Stone to sell me some video games, or what?
Posted December 16, 2020
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joelandsonja: I realize that there's a lot to hate about political decisions regarding Communist China, but GOG really isn't responsible for what goes on in China. This may be an unpopular opinion to some, but It's the responsibility of the people of China to stand up for their rights, not random businesses that are just trying to make a living for themselves. They could either sell that game and risk being banned in China completely, or deal with the backlash for not selling it. I think they made the right choice.
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GamezRanker: They(gog) could've blocked the game in china, and accomplished the same thing while allowing everyone else(and even chinese who "move to another country called VhePheEhn") to buy it.....but now they will certainly p*ss off a bunch of people in the rest of the world....people who buy games here.

Seems like they made a rather poor business decision.
I agree that this could have been a good solution, but I doubt that China would agree to such an arrangement. They probably told GOG flat out that if they sold that product they would be banned in China, so GOG [likely] made the right choice.
Post edited December 16, 2020 by joelandsonja
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joelandsonja: I agree that this could have been a good solution, but I doubt that China would agree to such an arrangement. They probably told GOG flat out that if they sold that product they would be banned in China, so GOG [likely] made the right choice.
Since when does it matter if china agreed to it? Isn't gog a private polish company?

Also: removing the game for everyone and bowing to china is a good choice as long as they get more money?

(and it wouldn't matter if china blocked out GOG.....chinese could "move temporarily to the grand country of VeePheEhn" and still buy the game, meaning GOG would still have access to that market)
Post edited December 16, 2020 by GamezRanker
Posted December 16, 2020
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Agreed with everyone else here. Just release it.
Posted December 16, 2020
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darthspudius: Shhh, those people do not exist and we're not allowed to think about it.
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GamezRanker: If they don't exist, then there's no one to be offended by posts critical of such, so it should be ok to be critical of such right? ;)

(also recently a thread on such non-existent types being offended, a thread related to gaming that was very civil is "no longer available"...odd ain't it?)

Also gonna leave it there...this thread should go back to the topic at hand(which is the game in the thread title, which seems very nice looking actually) so gonna leave this side topic at that for now.
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Posted December 16, 2020
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joelandsonja: I realize that there's a lot to hate about political decisions regarding Communist China, but GOG really isn't responsible for what goes on in China. This may be an unpopular opinion to some, but It's the responsibility of the people of China to stand up for their rights, not random businesses that are just trying to make a living for themselves. They could either sell that game and risk being banned in China completely, or deal with the backlash for not selling it. I think they made the right choice.
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GamezRanker: They(gog) could've blocked the game in china, and accomplished the same thing while allowing everyone else(and even chinese who "move to another country called VhePheEhn") to buy it.....but now they will certainly p*ss off a bunch of people in the rest of the world....people who buy games here.

Seems like they made a rather poor business decision.
I don't like this different behavior in different countries
if their values change from country to country then they have no values at all
Posted December 16, 2020
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joelandsonja: It's GOG's primary responsibility to provide a product or service to their customers
I agree, that's why they should sell the game and let consumers vote with their wallets. :P If devs removed reference to Xi Jinping as they promised, there is nothing politically controversial in regards to China left in the game.
Posted December 16, 2020
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joelandsonja: I really hate how GOG gets thrown under the bus because of one decision. GOG has always been the one of the only companies fighting for the rights of gamers for well over a decade, so let's give them the respect they deserve.

I realize that there's a lot to hate about political decisions regarding Communist China, but GOG really isn't responsible for what goes on in China. This may be an unpopular opinion to some, but It's the responsibility of the people of China to stand up for their rights, not random businesses that are just trying to make a living for themselves. They could either sell that game and risk being banned in China completely, or deal with the backlash for not selling it. I think they made the right choice.

There have been countless countries throughout history that have had to fight tooth and nail for the freedoms they now enjoy, and if the people of China want those same rights, they need to fight for it. This is what many of our ancestors fought and died for. It may not be easy, but if you want something bad enough nothing is going to stop you, not even the corrupt government of China.
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SLOFila: You are aware of Tiananment Square right? Or Hong Kong 2019?
The sad thing is that the majority of the people in China aren't willing to fight for their freedom, because most of the people from mainland China believe that their government is doing the right thing. Unfortunately the only people who see through the fascist dictatorship of China are the people of Hong Kong, but sadly they will never get the support of the people of mainland China, because the people of mainland China don't understand the importance of real freedom.
Posted December 16, 2020
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Yet another terrible move by GOG, in a long line of them. I'm getting very tired of this.
Posted December 16, 2020
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How pathetic. Now even GOG is giving into this insane religion.
Posted December 16, 2020
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Gold0nion: Seriously CD Projekt? You are supposed to be the good guys. If Steam has it how can you even think of caving. And then blame the gamers? Please turn this around, between this and releasing CP2077 on the PS4 it is starting to look like the people in charge are the same corporate shills as in any other gaming company. Get back to your roots. Next you know you'll be putting DRM into games.
steam dosn't have it, it was pulled from Steam February last year
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