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Onox: GOG feels dead to me (mostly) because of the regional pricing… I have not bought anything here in over two years, and this has also caused me to gradually lose interest in visiting the website. I am sad about it, but don’t know what to do
GOG and dead? Well, I have bought more in the last two years than ever before, the community (and my circle of friends here) is getting bigger and bigger, at least for me personally, it is really active here and on a purely human level I have met a lot of helpful, friendly people here. And then interesting games keep coming into the shop here.

Yes, the AAA titles and the usual suspects are missing, but on the whole there is an increase in the range and thanks to the cooperation with Amazon Prime all Prime customers get plenty of games for free. That is quite remarkable and should pay off for GOG.

I am also regularly happy to be able to play all my GOG games without DRM. Every time internet services fail or the internet connection itself goes down for a while, I remember the freedom that offline installers give. I don't care about regional pricing at all, I only buy games on sale anyway at the price they are worth to me.

If some games with outdated patches were updated, GOG were to focus more on multiplayer titles and a few big studios decided to simply publish everything here, then that would be almost perfect.

If you feel sad about it, then I have a very simple suggestion for you. Just don't buy any more games with DRM, the more people stop doing it, the more games will appear here in the medium term. Because regional pricing is not an argument that I can understand. Games have never been as cheap as they are today, unless you absolutely have to spend 100 bucks on Star Wars Outlaws, the new Indiana Jones or the latest football game. Or even crazier, buy a cosmetic package in a free2play game for a lot of money. :D

You should hold on to the good things and not the bad ones. And if you don't enjoy games at all anymore, then there are other nice hobbies.
Post edited November 03, 2024 by kultpcgames
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kultpcgames: regional pricing is not an argument that I can understand. Games have never been as cheap as they are today
It very much is for me. (As anyone who's been here for a little while knows...) Doesn't matter how cheap they are, it's the principle of the thing. It's wrong, period, but on top of that, for GOG in particular, fighting against it was their second clear, specific pillar, after DRM free.
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Cavalary: It very much is for me. (As anyone who's been here for a little while knows...) Doesn't matter how cheap they are, it's the principle of the thing. It's wrong, period, but on top of that, for GOG in particular, fighting against it was their second clear, specific pillar, after DRM free.
I'm saying that it's no reason to turn your back on GOG because compared to Steam or EPIC, the price differences are usually not significant. Except for the games that aren't offered at a discount here because they've been forgotten or GOG is ignored, but that's a whole different topic. So if Onox hasn't given up his hobby and is buying games elsewhere, then I don't see any logical reason that I can understand.

It goes without saying that people from economically weaker countries can't and don't want to pay that much. The prices should be adjusted accordingly (I mean, in Argentina, prices are very low compared to the EU, for example) or people should look for alternatives (I won't go into that any further now). But that's not what I was alluding to.
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Cavalary: fighting against it was their second clear, specific pillar, after DRM free.
All I can say is that things are changing. I wouldn't accept DRM here, but I'm willing to accept the change in pricing policy. Do I like that? No! However, I prefer it if it means that GOG stays with us (remains competitive) and more publishers offer their games here.

Do I have a realistic solution that makes everyone happy? No. :-|
Post edited November 03, 2024 by kultpcgames
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kultpcgames:
Steam and Epic are DRMed, that's the first problem, so why compare policies to theirs when they're clearly worse by definition?
At the same time, someone willing to buy on DRMed stores has little reason to stay on GOG in the first place. While on the other hand a few DRMfree AND flat-priced alternatives exist for quite a number of indies and classics.
But yeah, mainly those "alternatives" should be seen as the competition, not other stores. And back in the day GOG did so, and after all it's what GOG's founders started from.
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kultpcgames:
Here in New Zealand we historically paid proportionally more for games than many other places. Much of that was related to our proximity to Australia. Back in the days of physical media Australia paid a great deal more than other developed countries for games due to shipping costs and taxes there (but also a decent and noticeable level of price gouging, shown in games and other media actually manufactured locally). Thanks to the GDP and generally high standard of living the impact was softened (though still outrageous). In New Zealand, as the second stop for most of those goods we inherited those prices, without the same high wages to balance it.

Since the internet revolution a few greedy publishers continued to charge inflated prices without justification for digital licenses, throughout Australasia, although normal adjusted for GDP Australian pricing is still generally high. The biggest culprits in my experience were Take-Two, THQ and Deep Silver and again their pricing schemes included New Zealand as well.

Now as for GOG, unfortunately the default currency offered to us for many years now here in New Zealand is AUS. We can buy our DRM free games in Australian dollars at Australian prices but also get to pay the currency exchange on top of that. It's great that you love GOG so unconditionally and can list all the amazing things the site has offered you, without acknowledging the impact pricing and currency can have on others. As Cavalry said it often isn't even the practical reality, it's the principle. All those price gouging scumbags I mentioned earlier? I will never buy one of their games again, no matter how much I'm looking forward to it.

I've been a loyal GOG customer for almost 15 years now. I have a respectable 435 or so games in my library starting with Fallout 1&2 back in April 2010. I like the site very much, even if I haven't always agreed with some of their business and User Experience decisions over the years, they've done good by me. But it's about damn time they started offering me pricing and currency which match where I live. They're literally the only global distribution platform I buy from that doesn't.
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Stiffkittin: Here in New Zealand we historically paid proportionally more for games than many other places. ...
Thanks for the insight. My only experience of Australasia is limited to Brisbane. I lived there for 4 weeks 20 years ago and did a short language course. My host family were movie fans and also liked to play computer games, but the prices were never discussed back then. Personally, I found the PC games in the stores there relatively expensive and missed a few current titles, but I put that down to the higher cost of living. I suspect fair prices are difficult to achieve and the best way to achieve that is actually to forgo the games.
Best wishes to Down Under
Hello, maybe I'm asking something that is off-topic here, but do GOG have different prices if you live in different country like steam? I live in Georgia (Not US) but in GOG prices are TOO high for me, So I just buy in steam.
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constantinegt: Hello, maybe I'm asking something that is off-topic here, but do GOG have different prices if you live in different country like steam? I live in Georgia (Not US) but in GOG prices are TOO high for me, So I just buy in steam.
Yeah, that's what the concept of regional pricing means...
However, there are games on GOG that only have the typical regional price hikes (usually EU countries paying more) but fewer regional discounts (usually former CIS countries, some South American ones and China get them).
Though Georgia is a former CIS state, so based on that you SHOULD get discounts on GOG, except for one or two publishers that are notorious for only applying the higher prices in the usual regions but not the discounts in the others, even if on other stores they also apply those discounts. But now that I checked a bunch of titles it seems that indeed more often than not you don't.
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constantinegt: Hello, maybe I'm asking something that is off-topic here, but do GOG have different prices if you live in different country like steam? I live in Georgia (Not US) but in GOG prices are TOO high for me, So I just buy in steam.
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Cavalary: Yeah, that's what the concept of regional pricing means...
However, there are games on GOG that only have the typical regional price hikes (usually EU countries paying more) but fewer regional discounts (usually former CIS countries, some South American ones and China get them).
Though Georgia is a former CIS state, so based on that you SHOULD get discounts on GOG, except for one or two publishers that are notorious for only applying the higher prices in the usual regions but not the discounts in the others, even if on other stores they also apply those discounts. But now that I checked a bunch of titles it seems that indeed more often than not you don't.
So I have to have better discounts, right? so i found this site https://gog.rodrigotome.es here Russia and Armenia have AMAZING discounts, like for example EVERSPACE 2 my price is 17.49 (it is with discount now) but in Russia and Armenia it's like 6.29 wtf??? Georgia is not rich country than RUSSIA!!

So I bought on steam, there it was same price, something like 6.xx $. I just want to know, why is this? Is this my account or Georgia does not have this discount like Armenia and Russia?
Post edited 23 hours ago by constantinegt
I didn't know that i'm a rich eastern european until i saw the prices on this website .

I'm paying x3 for the same game
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constantinegt: So I have to have better discounts, right? so i found this site https://gog.rodrigotome.es here Russia and Armenia have AMAZING discounts, like for example EVERSPACE 2 my price is 17.49 (it is with discount now) but in Russia and Armenia it's like 6.29 wtf??? Georgia is not rich country than RUSSIA!!

So I bought on steam, there it was same price, something like 6.xx $. I just want to know, why is this? Is this my account or Georgia does not have this discount like Armenia and Russia?
I'll start by saying that I'm probably the GOG user who's most vehemently against the concept of regional pricing in itself, and remind the fact that initially GOG's second clear, stated principle, so right after DRM-free, was "one world, one price", no regional pricing whatsoever... until they gave up on it. That said, what I'm mainly opposing is regions paying more than the base price, which is taken to be the one the USA gets, regional discounts being a lesser issue. But those discounts are also a problem when they lead to unfair treatment of other parts of the world that are of similar or worse economic status. You also point out this issue, other countries from your region getting discounts that you don't, but I'd stress the larger issue, of definitely way poorer countries, like African ones, not getting discounts, while other countries from the region, like us here in Romania, or Bulgaria, or if you want non-EU countries then Serbia, getting the EU prices that are higher than those the USA gets... While on the other hand one of the wealthiest countries in the world, Norway, tends to get discounts!

Now, regarding your particular question, it's not your account, it's how Georgia is treated. Setting aside Russia's case, which gets something like an average 70% discount on GOG compared to base price, but only in theory, sales to Russia (and Belarus) being suspended since the invasion of Ukraine (if you're going to mention 2008 I'll say you're perfectly right and stop there since political discussions are not allowed), there is a slightly lower discount for CIS member states, which does still apply for Moldova and Ukraine even though they largely withdrew, but apparently not to Georgia anymore, probably because you're not longer a member at all. But that's what I can think of now, no idea what an official reason would be, and in the end it's the publishers that determine the prices, though I gather that GOG does offer some recommended ones.
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constantinegt: So I have to have better discounts, right? so i found this site https://gog.rodrigotome.es here Russia and Armenia have AMAZING discounts, like for example EVERSPACE 2 my price is 17.49 (it is with discount now) but in Russia and Armenia it's like 6.29 wtf??? Georgia is not rich country than RUSSIA!!

So I bought on steam, there it was same price, something like 6.xx $. I just want to know, why is this? Is this my account or Georgia does not have this discount like Armenia and Russia?
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Cavalary: I'll start by saying that I'm probably the GOG user who's most vehemently against the concept of regional pricing in itself, and remind the fact that initially GOG's second clear, stated principle, so right after DRM-free, was "one world, one price", no regional pricing whatsoever... until they gave up on it. That said, what I'm mainly opposing is regions paying more than the base price, which is taken to be the one the USA gets, regional discounts being a lesser issue. But those discounts are also a problem when they lead to unfair treatment of other parts of the world that are of similar or worse economic status. You also point out this issue, other countries from your region getting discounts that you don't, but I'd stress the larger issue, of definitely way poorer countries, like African ones, not getting discounts, while other countries from the region, like us here in Romania, or Bulgaria, or if you want non-EU countries then Serbia, getting the EU prices that are higher than those the USA gets... While on the other hand one of the wealthiest countries in the world, Norway, tends to get discounts!

Now, regarding your particular question, it's not your account, it's how Georgia is treated. Setting aside Russia's case, which gets something like an average 70% discount on GOG compared to base price, but only in theory, sales to Russia (and Belarus) being suspended since the invasion of Ukraine (if you're going to mention 2008 I'll say you're perfectly right and stop there since political discussions are not allowed), there is a slightly lower discount for CIS member states, which does still apply for Moldova and Ukraine even though they largely withdrew, but apparently not to Georgia anymore, probably because you're not longer a member at all. But that's what I can think of now, no idea what an official reason would be, and in the end it's the publishers that determine the prices, though I gather that GOG does offer some recommended ones.
One world, one price = One World, US price for all. It's not that Georgia is treated bad way, more like, if am from Georgia what the point buy from GOG if I can buy from steam, some times like 20$ cheaper. And no, I don't want to go to politics. I just don't understand why Armenia and Russia are in good prices while Georgia not, it's strange from simple capitalist point, no one will buy from here (Georgians).

Probably GOG does not care because Georgia is tiny market, and I understand it, if Russia had discount but for Armenia don't (because it also have tiny market) than ok, well it bad but it's business.. But Armenia has Georgia not. Strange.
Post edited 16 hours ago by constantinegt
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constantinegt: One world, one price = One World, US price for all. It's not that Georgia is treated bad way, more like, if am from Georgia what the point buy from GOG if I can buy from steam, some times like 20$ cheaper. And no, I don't want to go to politics. I just don't understand why Armenia and Russia are in good prices while Georgia not, it's strange from simple capitalist point, no one will buy from here (Georgians).

Probably GOG does not care because Georgia is tiny market, and I understand it, if Russia had discount but for Armenia don't (because it also have tiny market) than ok, well it bad but it's business.. But Armenia has Georgia not. Strange.
Like I said, that discount applies to CIS member states, so Georgia doesn't get that particular discount because it's no longer one. Why doesn't it get a similar one on its own though, beats me...
As for why buy on GOG, DRM free. If you care about that, that's why. If you don't, little reason to buy on GOG regardless of price.