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Posted November 01, 2018
Every now and then, I will see a game (DLC) on sale at GOG, and think I will grab that, only to find I have the base game at Steam, not GOG.

Of course, being the sensible person I am, I am not gonna re-buy the base game. I might do that for old games I have on disc, but only to have them playable on modern systems. Being DRM-Free is a bonus, but it is not my sole motivation, as I have to be realistic with my money after all, and many games it appears are actually DRM-Free from Steam, if you care to investigate some of the documented legal methods to make them so.

So why aren't publishers/developers smart enough to at least put the base game on GOG Connect during a sale of a DLC?

Layers of Fear: Inheritance is a perfect example for me. Great price, but not if I have to buy the base game all over again.

https://www.gog.com/game/layers_of_fear_inheritance
https://www.gog.com/game/layers_of_fear

So it is a missed sale really, and also a missed promotional opportunity to create feelings of goodwill and gratitude.

When one thinks of the money spent on promotions a lot of the time, I can only shake my head when they miss the bleeding obvious. If they are counting on the weakness of others to re-buy, then that makes me sad really, as it does not shine a good ethical light on them.

One hopes that GOG is being as encouraging as they can be with these publishers/developers, to do the right thing, and reap the deserved benefits.
Posted November 01, 2018
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Timboli: Every now and then, I will see a game (DLC) on sale at GOG, and think I will grab that, only to find I have the base game at Steam, not GOG.

Of course, being the sensible person I am, I am not gonna re-buy the base game. I might do that for old games I have on disc, but only to have them playable on modern systems. Being DRM-Free is a bonus, but it is not my sole motivation, as I have to be realistic with my money after all, and many games it appears are actually DRM-Free from Steam, if you care to investigate some of the documented legal methods to make them so.

So why aren't publishers/developers smart enough to at least put the base game on GOG Connect during a sale of a DLC?

Layers of Fear: Inheritance is a perfect example for me. Great price, but not if I have to buy the base game all over again.

https://www.gog.com/game/layers_of_fear_inheritance
https://www.gog.com/game/layers_of_fear

So it is a missed sale really, and also a missed promotional opportunity to create feelings of goodwill and gratitude.

When one thinks of the money spent on promotions a lot of the time, I can only shake my head when they miss the bleeding obvious. If they are counting on the weakness of others to re-buy, then that makes me sad really, as it does not shine a good ethical light on them.

One hopes that GOG is being as encouraging as they can be with these publishers/developers, to do the right thing, and reap the deserved benefits.
Base game gives more money than DLC. Enough people are willing to rebuy again.
Posted November 01, 2018
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kohlrak: Base game gives more money than DLC. Enough people are willing to rebuy again.
Well as I said, that makes me sad, and on a few levels.
The people who do that, are stopping fairness happening, because clearly the publishers/developers don't have a strong ethical code. Pure greed to want to get paid twice for the same thing.
I wouldn't pay again myself, purely on principle, and I have to say, that my respect for them is low.
What comes around goes around.
Instead of gaining good will and gratitude, they gain the opposite from many of us.
And clearly some buyers have more money than sense, perpetuating this situation. It's that sort of mentality that has led us to the throwaway society situation and our dumps overflowing and our seas polluted etc.
Posted November 01, 2018
Wait a few weeks and it will be on sale in the other store, no such thing as a missed sale really.
Posted November 03, 2018
Maybe, but not always and not always the same discount, and to be honest I prefer GOG, so the less money I now spend at Steam, the better.

I like to support GOG and encourage their continuation.

I also like to support publishers/developers who treat their customers decently ... and the industry too. However, it often seems to me they treat their fans as second class customers ... discounts usually going to late comers or non fans, subsidized by the fans. One area where appreciation to fans (supporters) could be shown, is this exact scenario of not making us pay twice ... even if they only did while a DLC was on special ... that would be something at least.
Posted November 04, 2018
If you wait long enough everything happens, murphy's law.
Posted November 04, 2018
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theslitherydeee: If you wait long enough everything happens, murphy's law.
If the ice cream isn't cooked correctly, the soup may have soured.
Posted November 04, 2018
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theslitherydeee: If you wait long enough everything happens, murphy's law.
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wpegg: If the ice cream isn't cooked correctly, the soup may have soured.
Indeed. But if that happens you can always make it into a sandwich.
Posted November 04, 2018
I never understand this. If you didn't buy the game from GOG, why would they show 'goodwill and gratitude'?

Would you walk into your local shop, and say [i]'Hey, I bought this game from another shop, therefore you have to give it to me for free.'
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Posted November 04, 2018
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FrodoBaggins: I never understand this. If you didn't buy the game from GOG, why would they show 'goodwill and gratitude'?

Would you walk into your local shop, and say [i]'Hey, I bought this game from another shop, therefore you have to give it to me for free.'
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Different with digital goods, where GOG isn't paying money per copy. To be fair, though, GOG does loose their cut. But this isn't really about GOG, as the stuff directed at GOG is misplaced anger. This is about the companies selling the games on GOG trying to get people to buy things more than once, which is no surprise, but will bite them in the ass later. The smarter thing to do is wait things out and buy on values exclusively: if you can't handle DRM, don't buy the DRMed titles. Buying DRM-free versions again only incentivizes this practice. If you don't buy again, but only buy the DRM copy, then you're incentivizing DRM. If you want DRM-free exclusively, get people only to buy DRM-free copies, and not buy DRM copies.
Posted November 04, 2018
But it IS about GOG.

If you want to support GOG, and DRM-free, then fine. Buy from GOG.
But no-one makes you buy from steam. So don't choose to buy from steam, and then expect GOG to give you the game for free.
Posted November 04, 2018
Want to make sure you only pay for the game once, and for the lowest price? Wait till the developer has moved on and has released the sequel before purchasing.

Delayed gratification has never been easier in an age when most people's back-log is in the triple digits.

It doesn't make you less of a fan. Honest.
Posted October 11, 2019
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FrodoBaggins: But it IS about GOG.
No it isn't. It is about the Publisher/DEV and their respect for GOG and its customer base.

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FrodoBaggins: If you want to support GOG, and DRM-free, then fine. Buy from GOG.
But no-one makes you buy from steam. So don't choose to buy from steam, and then expect GOG to give you the game for free.
My first preference is to always buy from GOG, even if slightly dearer and not as updated.

Issues arise when a game is not available at GOG and yet has been available for a good length of time elsewhere, and it is not possible to predict if and when a game will ever become available at GOG.
Then you also cannot ignore a great sale discount elsewhere for a game you really want.

I want to support GOG as much as I can, but I also have to be realistic.

If a Publisher/DEV do eventually release that game at GOG, then they should be mindful and respectful of those who are their fans and have supported them, having bought the game previously. In short they are not giving away a game for free, we have already paid for it. What they would be doing, is giving us a DRM-Free version for being a great customer.
Post edited October 11, 2019 by Timboli
Posted October 11, 2019
1) you don't need to rebuy the games from steam or other stores to gog, just buy new games and keep the both accounts

2) base game is always more expensive than dlc

3) GOG isn't loosing sale by selling games below price to users who might not be GOG's costumer at all
Posted October 11, 2019
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BeatriceElysia: 1) you don't need to rebuy the games from steam or other stores to gog, just buy new games and keep the both accounts
I have no intention of re-buying a game. They have gotten my money once, and in some cases twice ... if I also had a disc version.

That said, my preference is always to have the better DRM-Free version.

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BeatriceElysia: 2) base game is always more expensive than dlc

3) GOG isn't loosing sale by selling games below price to users who might not be GOG's costumer at all
Not sure how those last two points are even relevant.

In the end, it is about respect .... and respect is always a two-way street.
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