nope

Why did you kill him so readily then? D;

because after he privately requested a role I created a role for him at the last minute as a joke. It wasn't worth finding a replacement. D;

Maybe mention why it worries you that much? There are multiple possible reasons for the lack of kill, so even if someone comes out and says "I blocked X" we can't draw any conclusions from it. We still won't be sure whether it was them or just a choice on the scum's part. So I don't see how we can have any solid information that will be useful to Town.



P.S. The lack of any death makes me feel like this is just Day 1 extended...

Well damn.

While I wonder about the mention of those who should not be discussed, I guess they can be mentioned :P Anyway without actually saying it, I should make it clear that this is not the case with those I appreciate and those I don't. Meaning I don't know how I could have done without Prudence, but I am not to consider her the only saving grace. Anyway after attempting to talk about something without actually talking about it, I'll know just declare my agreement with SPF in regards to nightkill discussions and Nmillar, though to include a little about nightkill; I assumed that the nightkill was somehow connected to the number thing, though I have yet to puzzle out any way for that to make sense.

oh yeah

you can't talk about this thing this is a warning to all!

No mentioning clues no mentioning likes/dislikes

Telika has come close to mentioning clues as well today. Don't do it it's very bad we'll all die.

I originally assumed that as well, as (at least for me) the number asking was completely one sided, not a reaction to an action of my own as I had done nothing. Thus, I figured I had avoided death through sheer awesomeness (and dumb luck). However, we now have several people with numbers to choose from, and I don't think the mafia would be attempting multikill on day 1 right? I certainly hope the rules don't allow for that.

What to do know? I don't have a clue.
There are some things I like here, but there are more things that I dislike and it makes the game hard.


Seriously?

"@everyone; why would scum do it and then admit it?" equals to "very 'He has to be town, no mafia would be this bold'. It felt like you have already completely dismissed even the faintest possibility that he might be mafia" and "how strong you felt the 'He has to be town'"

In what world?



My gripe with amok's lynch is that if he flips non-mafia (and he could, there is some chance. His play, including his craziness is more similar to his previous town play than scum play. On the other hand he is actually not doing much or anything to find scum.) then his lynch will tell us absolutely nothing and we will waste another day. It is easy lynch for mafia and anyone can defend his participation or even non-participation so contrary to what was RB saying, this lynch will have zero information value.


If it was someone else than Pina then I would probably agree but considering how he plays here (and how he played in last game too), I don't see it as suspicious or witholding, just his usual self.
The fact he said it before amok could, could be more serious, but again it's him and he doesn't care much about anything. Also it would be scummy if they were buddies, I guess, but even then there would be no need to.

I really, really dislike people sharing the info when we have no idea what use it is.
What if mafia get to choose number next night and everyone who chose it is going to die? Hm?
There is no way I am going to share my pick. You can think I chose Magikarp or that I am witholding information but Id on't feel safe with people sharing it.


@nmillar; No. Why should we be talking about lack of NK and why you are so keen on bringing it to attention? There are many possible reasons and we won't know the answer anyway and it won't be of any help to us right now. So why should we bother with it right now.



You scum! :-)

Ah keep in mind that was my argument on day 1, given that Zchinque is dead without giving us any information and as we have since learned his role was just created in the last moment, he is out. Given that amok lied about his role, we might of course learn his true alignment in regards to information, but the reason I want to lynch him now is not information, but the lynch all liars.

Currently I am considering nmillar much for the same reason you talk about with the lack of nightkill discussion - information that does not need to be shared, I also feel the same in regards to flubbucket, so both of those are now on the list as its the scum hunt or potential scum hunt ;)

And for the record I won't be mentioning mine either.

Currently getting caught up, will post thoughts tomorrow.

Not following thread at all? Only scum doesn't need to do it. Vote pazzer.

That was easy.

Unvote.

I guess we'll call that a consequence...

Agreed. I find amok lynch will garner little information.

Your point is understood, however, 1) P1na coming forward in the way he has lends credibility to the "information." 2) the "information" can now be scrutinized by others privately. I have no issues with not sharing at this juncture. Those of us who have shared give you others some useful puzzle pieces.

Who will scum choose to NK? Will it be someone who has or has not shared information? Were matching numbers relevant or were certain numbers cursed??



Your logic is not logical. I do not believe you are interested in finding out amok's alignment because you already know.

You say "...we might of course learn his true alignment in regards to information..." and then say "... I want to lynch him now is not information..." pushing someone's lynch simply because they've lied and openly admitted it without any pressure is scummy. You were looking for an excuse to vote for amok here. However it could all be a very clever long game. Regardless...

Vote: Red_Baron

Eh..bad argument is terribly bad :O I am clarifying for Vitek that I am not voting nor acting for the same reasons as day one (and agreed in regards to info it could gain), given the different circumstances.. The whole point was that I am not voting for him to learn his alignment, but because he lied.

No, I am not looking for an excuse to vote for him in posts 636, as I had already voted for him long before that (post 536, which was 3 days before your so called "voting excuse post"). Long game? That I believe in lynch all liars?...And yes, someone who lied should be lynched, no matter if they openly admit it or not, hence the unspoken rule that town should never lie.

So your voting me because of a post that had the opposite point of what you believe/wrote, a post which you claim is an excuse to vote, made after I had already voted and finally an argument that those who lied should not be lynched, if they just admit it?? Really?

I had you on my list of suspect people, together with nmillar, primarily due to the whole number hunting. But this? Damn, now I have to decide if the obvious liar (+ potential jester), and clearly not town should have my vote, or the one who make such an garbled case.

Current lists:
Liars & Not town:
Amok (Jester?)

Likely scum:
flubbucket (fishing and voting reasons)

Suspected scum:
nmillar (investigate night actions, slightly due to Telika's case. Perhaps not scum due to liking Prudence)
Vitek (Slightly, I am kinda in two minds about him)

Likely town:
Telika (Who however always fools me)
Robbeasy (Who also always fools me :P)

No freaking clue:
Pazzer (Due to very little from QA and being the replacement :D Welcome btw)
P1na (Crazy - gives both a good and a bad feeling)

Assumed town
The rest

Please officer! Do try to keep up, I'm doing the best I can to explain what was happening, yes so at this time

Telika had been voted for by nobody.
JMich had been voted for by nobody.
Flubbucket had been voted for by nobody.
pazzer had been voted for by nobody.
Robbeasy had been voted for by nobody.
Vitek had been voted for by nobody.
p1na had been voted for by P1na.
amok had been voted for by DarkoD13, Robbeasy, red_baron, SirPrimalform.
DarkoD13 had been voted for by nobody.
CSPVG had been voted for by nobody.
Twilightbard had been voted for by nobody.
SirPrimalform had been voted for by nobody
nmillar had been voted for by Telika
Red_Baron had been voted for by flubbucket.
and, yes!
There is no-one else.

meaning that amok was just FOUR votes away from a majority vote!!! I could hardly breathe!
While that was going on Twilightbard, amok and CSPVG, nmillar, and pazzer Vitek and JMich and were conspicuous in that they had voted for nobody at all!

And I remember being in bed by 7th Feb o'clock.