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Fouinto: I will just react on this sentence : this DLC is noted 2.5/5 stars on GoG.
I won't say more : there are lot of reviews on the net on the EE versions.
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ReviloPL: Well I actually do not care if there is a transgender character in the game as pretty much most of the people who gave bad rating there. There were a lot of controversies going on about this DLC, some references to real world but in my opinion the game deserves at least decent 4/5.

Also take note that most of these bad ratings which talks about bugs comes before updates which fixed them.
That is a lie and you know it. The majority of the complaints had nothing to do with the trans character. Even transgendered players complained about it.
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Engerek01: I just finished Siege of Dragonspear. Do people really say it has a story?

Storywise, it is utterly empty. There is almost nothing in it. I knew the end when I started the game.

It is as linear as this type of games can be. Even Icewind dale games were not that linear. It is so linear that you can not even go back to places you finished.

Length? It is super short. I finished BG1:EE in 120 hours. Finished SOD in 8 hours. Last 2 chapters took less than 30 minutes. And that's because I took my time. That should tell you something.

Voice acting... While it is done right on most cases, there are times when it is super annoying. To make some dragons or ancient beings the "cool" act, they made them read 5 words in 60 seconds... It is never a good sign if I am yawning when a dragon is talking to me.

I had read some people comparing SOD to the Tales of the Sword Coast, the expansion for BG1. I disagree completely. Either Durlag's Tower or the werewolf Island has more content and story and excitement than SOD. With the Ice Island, TotSC easily has 3 times more content than SOD.

I normally hate to talk about price but... if BG1:EE (with TotSC mind you) is 20$ (the classic was 10$) then SOD is worth 2 or 3 $ tops based on content, story and fun.

I had also read someone compared SOD's story to Planescape Torment. Even tho I respect every opinion, that's the stupidest comparison in human history. I can write a book on the subject but let's just say that the quality of writing in SOD is poor at its best. It is probably written by someone who read lots of manga but the implementation of that culture is out of place. Most writings do not even make sense. I often found myself re reading to understand what it meant. Typos, grammar errors are all over the place. As someone who love reading books, especially in english, I found that utterly disturbing and mood breaking.

In conclusion, buy it when it is highly discounted. Play it, enjoy it, and forget it afterwards.
Exactly. It also contradicts BG 1 and 2 all over the place, creates huge plot-holes, and turns Irenicus into a complete moron.
Post edited September 07, 2018 by Stig79
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Engerek01: Length? It is super short. I finished BG1:EE in 120 hours. Finished SOD in 8 hours. Last 2 chapters took less than 30 minutes. And that's because I took my time. That should tell you something.
The average game takes 8-20 hours to complete, so it's certainly long in that regard. HowLongToBeat.com aggregates recorded playtime lengths for games; based on 100 players' playtimes, Baldur's Gate averaged out to around 60 hours to complete -- if it took you 120 hours, that's twice the expectancy -- and for completionists only 106 hours, and Icewind Dale still only comes to 51 hours, and Neverwinter Nights (original) just 84 for completionist times. If 120 hours is your playtime for BG:EE, that's actually quite long for games of its ilk -- if it takes you too much longer to beat other similar games, its just indicative of slowness on your part.
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Engerek01: Length? It is super short. I finished BG1:EE in 120 hours. Finished SOD in 8 hours. Last 2 chapters took less than 30 minutes. And that's because I took my time. That should tell you something.
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IsaOfTheWorlds: The average game takes 8-20 hours to complete, so it's certainly long in that regard. HowLongToBeat.com aggregates recorded playtime lengths for games; based on 100 players' playtimes, Baldur's Gate averaged out to around 60 hours to complete -- if it took you 120 hours, that's twice the expectancy -- and for completionists only 106 hours, and Icewind Dale still only comes to 51 hours, and Neverwinter Nights (original) just 84 for completionist times. If 120 hours is your playtime for BG:EE, that's actually quite long for games of its ilk -- if it takes you too much longer to beat other similar games, its just indicative of slowness on your part.
There are lies. There are damned lies. Then there are statistics!
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IsaOfTheWorlds: The average game takes 8-20 hours to complete, so it's certainly long in that regard. HowLongToBeat.com aggregates recorded playtime lengths for games; based on 100 players' playtimes, Baldur's Gate averaged out to around 60 hours to complete -- if it took you 120 hours, that's twice the expectancy -- and for completionists only 106 hours, and Icewind Dale still only comes to 51 hours, and Neverwinter Nights (original) just 84 for completionist times. If 120 hours is your playtime for BG:EE, that's actually quite long for games of its ilk -- if it takes you too much longer to beat other similar games, its just indicative of slowness on your part.
Please help me here. Are you saying I am slow because I finished BG1:EE in 120 hours? And that I am fast because I finished SOD in 8? :))

I play such games really slowly but 120 hours was not only because of my slowlessness but also because of the over 100 bugs I encountered while playing the game. I never said BG1:EE should be finished in 120 hours. I wrote my time as reference. So you are correct in that regard.

SOD on the other hand... I can finish it in 6-7 hours if I play it again. There is NOTHING in that game that would make it longer*. Except the terrible pathfinding and level design of course which made first part of the game an agony.

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The last chapters of the game is a perfect example of the shallowness of SOD. You are entering the DRAGON CASTLE which is literally built upon a dead dragon. And there is nothing... No lore, no books on shelves about it, nothing. I only found 1 book that had something about it that you can read in 20 seconds. I expected so much more, like if I click on bones I would get some information about it that would chill my bones. But that did not happen. Even in hell, there was nothing. No information, no nothing.
Posted elsewhere...

(I meant that I typed whatever I was going to post here in another location.)
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Engerek01: Length? It is super short. I finished BG1:EE in 120 hours. Finished SOD in 8 hours. Last 2 chapters took less than 30 minutes. And that's because I took my time. That should tell you something.
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IsaOfTheWorlds: The average game takes 8-20 hours to complete, so it's certainly long in that regard. HowLongToBeat.com aggregates recorded playtime lengths for games; based on 100 players' playtimes, Baldur's Gate averaged out to around 60 hours to complete -- if it took you 120 hours, that's twice the expectancy -- and for completionists only 106 hours, and Icewind Dale still only comes to 51 hours, and Neverwinter Nights (original) just 84 for completionist times. If 120 hours is your playtime for BG:EE, that's actually quite long for games of its ilk -- if it takes you too much longer to beat other similar games, its just indicative of slowness on your part.
These numbers are self-reported and unverifiable. I would not trust them even a bit.

And BG easily eats into 100+ hours if you really want to explore everything, especially if you are not spamming haste on your party (which I presume a new player would not do).
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IsaOfTheWorlds: The average game takes 8-20 hours to complete, so it's certainly long in that regard. HowLongToBeat.com aggregates recorded playtime lengths for games; based on 100 players' playtimes, Baldur's Gate averaged out to around 60 hours to complete -- if it took you 120 hours, that's twice the expectancy -- and for completionists only 106 hours, and Icewind Dale still only comes to 51 hours, and Neverwinter Nights (original) just 84 for completionist times. If 120 hours is your playtime for BG:EE, that's actually quite long for games of its ilk -- if it takes you too much longer to beat other similar games, its just indicative of slowness on your part.
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Lebesgue: These numbers are self-reported and unverifiable. I would not trust them even a bit.

And BG easily eats into 100+ hours if you really want to explore everything, especially if you are not spamming haste on your party (which I presume a new player would not do).
Yep - I've done one "logged" playthrough of BG1EE on Steam (before I had it here) plus one where I was offline (which was a more thorough run on hard with SCS) and I've clocked 130hrs.

I think that's part of why we love these games - their depth is incredible, even for one playthrough. Also, as already mentioned, TotSC adds a fair bit of content to get through; e.g. Durlag's Tower can take a while, but that is also partly because the lore/story is so well done (along with the dungeon being massive and hugely complex).
Post edited October 13, 2018 by sonic_titan_rides