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Is it me, or is there a trend on GOG forms? It's like people want GOG to fail and shut down. Maybe I'm just seeing things.
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Whenever I see this thread show up in the first page again, it gives me the impression that CDP's stock has fallen yet again.
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Syphon72: Is it me, or is there a trend on GOG forms? It's like people want GOG to fail and shut down. Maybe I'm just seeing things.
I saw a similar trend, but I thought it was GOG that wants GOG to fail and shut down!

And boy they're putting some serious effort into this!
Post edited April 21, 2022 by Enebias
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I'm not an expert but this is pretty normal in the stocks market, plus every company in Europe is having some drops at the time, probably due to problems for the ongoing war. Also, Netflix dropped 35% in one day and is not the end of the world, I think you are being too dramatic.
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Syphon72: Is it me, or is there a trend on GOG forms? It's like people want GOG to fail and shut down. Maybe I'm just seeing things.
Well, there certainly is some core bunch of people who are acting like GOG is their ex-girlfriend that broke up with them.
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Syphon72: Is it me, or is there a trend on GOG forms? It's like people want GOG to fail and shut down.
I don't want GOG to fail and shutdown.

However, that outcome does seem increasingly inevitable as time goes on.

So I make posts saying it probably will happen, but that doesn't mean I wish for that outcome.

Best to accept reality for what it is, though.

A lot of posters say things like GOG is fine and their financial losses year after year are no big deal and perfectly acceptable and GOG can just keep losing money forever and nothing bad will ever happen to GOG no matter how long it loses money for.

Such viewpoints are highly unrealistic and harboring them will probably only lead to false hopes and lost libraries (for people who don't backup their games because they bought into the absurd belief that GOG can remain operating as a money-losing business forever).
Post edited April 21, 2022 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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Syphon72: Is it me, or is there a trend on GOG forms? It's like people want GOG to fail and shut down.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I don't want GOG to fail and shutdown.

However, that outcome does seem increasingly inevitable as time goes on.

So I make posts saying it probably will happen, but that doesn't mean I wish for that outcome.

Best to accept reality for what it is, though.

A lot of posters say things like GOG is fine and their financial losses year after year are no big deal and perfectly acceptable and GOG can just keep losing money forever and nothing bad will ever happen to GOG no matter how long it loses money for.

Such viewpoints are highly unrealistic and harboring them will probably only lead to false hopes and lost libraries (for people who don't backup their games because they bought into the absurd belief that GOG can remain operating as a money-losing business forever).
I'm pretty sure last year was the only loss in years. I do know GOG has been making little revenue. But It's coming to the point where everything is the end of the world event to some people. This place is turning into 4chan /v/. lol
It's also obvious the loss was from too much spending on GOG part.

By the way, all my games are back up. :) Been backing since I signed up to GOG.


If anything happens they will probably be bought out by someone.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: The woke mind virus?

I think its more simple in that Netflix cant make good exclusive content. Unlike Disney or HBO who have years of experience actually creating shows and movies, Netflix started as a distribution service, tying tons of shows into one convenient spot (like steam for PC games). Now that everyone is gunning for the pie, they are pulling their shows from Netflix (resulting in less content on the platform) and making their own exclusives and Netflix just cant produce.

Their good shows are few and far in between. Honestly, their only good show is Cobra Kai which they acquired, not produced internally. If you think Western SWJ writers are bad writers and cant make anything good, then yes I agree with you. If the issue is SJW topics, I disagree since Japan has produced some interesting and funny shows that would be considered SJW in the west.
Cobra Kai
Last Kingdom
Stranger Things
Witcher
Taboo
Queen's Gambit
Godless
The Umbrella Academy
Altered Carbon
House of Cards
Lost in Space
Narcos
Bodyguard
Maid
Squid Game
Sweet Tooth
Lupin
Mindhunter

This is just from what I watched so far. There are other interesting original shows on the platform I'd like to watch at some point.

Netflix is giving other content providers a run for their money and I think it is anyone's game right now. I makes sense that as their competition matures, Netflix would lose some of the market.

Anyways, I'm seeing great content both from Netflix and Amazon Prime. I don't subscribe to others, but I'm sure they have some good content too. It's a shame that the market is fragmented as I'd rather just cherry-pick what I want to watch from the best of the best, but if you have a busy life, there is enough quality content on 1-2 providers to keep your tv time well occupied.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: The woke mind virus?

I think its more simple in that Netflix cant make good exclusive content. Unlike Disney or HBO who have years of experience actually creating shows and movies, Netflix started as a distribution service, tying tons of shows into one convenient spot (like steam for PC games). Now that everyone is gunning for the pie, they are pulling their shows from Netflix (resulting in less content on the platform) and making their own exclusives and Netflix just cant produce.

Their good shows are few and far in between. Honestly, their only good show is Cobra Kai which they acquired, not produced internally. If you think Western SWJ writers are bad writers and cant make anything good, then yes I agree with you. If the issue is SJW topics, I disagree since Japan has produced some interesting and funny shows that would be considered SJW in the west.
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Magnitus: Cobra Kai
Last Kingdom
Stranger Things
Witcher
Taboo
Queen's Gambit
Godless
The Umbrella Academy
Altered Carbon
House of Cards
Lost in Space
Narcos
Bodyguard
Maid
Squid Game
Sweet Tooth
Lupin
Mindhunter

This is just from what I watched so far. There are other interesting original shows on the platform I'd like to watch at some point.

Netflix is giving other content providers a run for their money and I think it is anyone's game right now. I makes sense that as their competition matures, Netflix would lose some of the market.

Anyways, I'm seeing great content both from Netflix and Amazon Prime. I don't subscribe to others, but I'm sure they have some good content too. It's a shame that the market is fragmented as I'd rather just cherry-pick what I want to watch from the best of the best, but if you have a busy life, there is enough quality content on 1-2 providers to keep your tv time well occupied.
Cobra Kai was produced by another studio they later acquired.
Stranger things has been pretty bad for a while. Witcher honestly sucks, not even accurate to the books with too much love for Yen.
Others I havent seen so cant comment but Squid Game is just live action anime. Maybe its a new concept in the West but its a poor man’s Kaiji. The concept of the rich watching the poor fight for their lives and the oppressive nature of capitalism is already captured far better in Kaiji, nevermind the fact that Kaiji actually earns his victories.
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Magnitus: Taboo
House of Cards
Not disputing the quality of the above (at least prior to Kevin Spacey being forced out of HoC), but should probably mention that Taboo is a BBC TV drama series from 2017 (so a bought-in Netflix product).

House of Cards is an American adaptation of a 1990 BBC series; so it's more a Netflix original than Taboo, but still derived from the BBC series and the 1989 Michael Dobbs novel (the sequels to the 1989 novel retconned the ending to be in line with the original TV adaptation).

I would agree that in general, there are some decent TV series on or produced by Netflix (A Series of Unfortunate Events springs to mind, as do the first two series of Narcos and some of their films), although I personally find that their earlier content is more to my taste than their more recent output (probably down to the proliferation of streaming services - it was better when we only really had iPlayer, Amazon and Netflix) and to the drive towards the "mainstream" and the problems that brings in terms of content production.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Cobra Kai was produced by another studio they later acquired.
Stranger things has been pretty bad for a while. Witcher honestly sucks, not even accurate to the books with too much love for Yen.
Others I havent seen so cant comment but Squid Game is just live action anime. Maybe its a new concept in the West but its a poor man’s Kaiji. The concept of the rich watching the poor fight for their lives and the oppressive nature of capitalism is already captured far better in Kaiji, nevermind the fact that Kaiji actually earns his victories.
The only problem with Kaiji was the episodes were dragged out a little more than they needed too.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Cobra Kai was produced by another studio they later acquired.
Sure, but now it is theirs. Whether they hire the right people or acquire the right companies (others like Disney do the same), the end-result for the viewer is the same.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Stranger things has been pretty bad for a while.
It is running out of Steam and it is time for the show to wrap up (which it will in the next season I believe). I wouldn't say it turned bad, it's just not a show meant to last 10 seasons.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Witcher honestly sucks, not even accurate to the books with too much love for Yen.
Most viewers will not have read the book and won't care. Otherwise, it's not GoT in its prime, but I still consider it better than average.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Others I havent seen so cant comment but Squid Game is just live action anime.
Most people won't have seen the anime so for them it is just new material. Also, plenty of people don't like anime (I know some), so maybe this is more approachable for them.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Maybe its a new concept in the West but its a poor man’s Kaiji.

The concept of the rich watching the poor fight for their lives and the oppressive nature of capitalism is already captured far better in Kaiji, nevermind the fact that Kaiji actually earns his victories.
My wife is Japanese and she liked it (she is the one who suggested we watch it). Otherwise, yes, it's been done before in Asia and elsewhere (ex: 3%), but the execution is still good.

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pds41: I would agree that in general, there are some decent TV series on or produced by Netflix (A Series of Unfortunate Events springs to mind, as do the first two series of Narcos and some of their films), although I personally find that their earlier content is more to my taste than their more recent output (probably down to the proliferation of streaming services - it was better when we only really had iPlayer, Amazon and Netflix) and to the drive towards the "mainstream" and the problems that brings in terms of content production.
Barring the misfires which are bound to happen, I think they are serving a very diverse audience and not all their content would be gold to everyone even if their execution was perfect.

For example, my tastes are pretty incompatible with people who enjoy reality tv, yet Netflix is trying to cater to us both.
Post edited April 22, 2022 by Magnitus
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Netflix is honestly an example of silly/unrealistic expectations imo. Netflix is still the most dominant subscription service in the streaming wars but the stock price fell hard because subscribers started to drop for the first time in 10 years. Now Netflix is planning on doing anti-consumer things like consider preventing password sharing and pulling money from making content. Yeah, thats going to go over well. Netflix's big advantage is just the large amount of content they make plus some decent exclusives that make the service worth it. Pull that and people are going to start not paying like they do with Disney+.

I agree CDPR stock was overpriced with CP2077 which people put way too much stock in, basically calling it game of the year/decade even before release. The fact that it flopped hurt the stock price more but unless it sold gangbusters, it wouldnt have "met expectations" imo.

Yup, I believe CDPR has a Gwent single player, Witcher 4, and CP2077 patches and DLC in the pipeline as of now.
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Jorev: Elon Musk explained correctly in a recent tweet why Netflix is losing customers.

CD Project SA stock is still plummeting. It is at $30.20 now.
The woke mind virus already has a name it's called virtue signalling / virtue flagging.
It's when someone tries to be part of an 'in crowd' by trying to appeal to a sense of how much in tune with the same values they are.
Now that societies are global and more centered around platform than localised groups you have a movement that lashes out at everything to avail themselves of 'prrof of stake' and industries and governance that tries to appeal to it to be more positively accepted and hence thrive in the otherwise vitriolic arena.
Unfortunately it is not stand alone as a lot of the payment schemes out there for content have centralised SJW policies on what they will and won't be associated with; arguably why no matter what bitcoin will persist regardless of what the powers be may want.
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Magnitus: Sure, but now it is theirs. Whether they hire the right people or acquire the right companies (others like Disney do the same), the end-result for the viewer is the same.
My point was more Netflix doesnt have the internal resources/mechanisms to produce good shows, hence the need to outsource unlike Disney and HBO.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Most viewers will not have read the book and won't care. Otherwise, it's not GoT in its prime, but I still consider it better than average.
Better than average (I still disagree) but when competing with Disney+ who produces tons of Marvel content, it becomes harder to complete.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Most people won't have seen the anime so for them it is just new material. Also, plenty of people don't like anime (I know some), so maybe this is more approachable for them.
True and most people also dont watch foreign dramas unfortunately which is why I was surprised Squid Game got so much attention. I really think its because Korea has been marketing toward the US for a while now.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: My wife is Japanese and she liked it (she is the one who suggested we watch it). Otherwise, yes, it's been done before in Asia and elsewhere (ex: 3%), but the execution is still good.
Oh, if thats the case, I recommend checking out Liar Game if you enjoy the psychological games aspect. The Jdrama is not as good as the manga but still pretty well done with one smarter protagonist. Kin to Gin (金と銀) is also good (same author as Kaiji) but the story was never completed which was a shame.
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: My point was more Netflix doesnt have the internal resources/mechanisms to produce good shows, hence the need to outsource unlike Disney and HBO.
Disney is a commercial engine at this point. They produce "ok" shows, but it feels like a money-making formula more than art. I don't think they'd dare to produce greatness (they might very occasionally accidentally stumble upon it, but they certainly aren't actively seeking it out). The potential profit margin would be too low and risk factor would be too high for them.

HBO is much better.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Better than average (I still disagree) but when competing with Disney+ who produces tons of Marvel content, it becomes harder to complete.
You would have asked me in the early 2000s and I'd have said it is great. I'm Marveled out at this point.

Didn't even watch the last couple of Avengers movie. I get that it is a big money maker, but I'm more interested in the alternative less inspiring "superhero" formula at this point (Watchmen, Invincible, The Boys, etc) and even that will eventually get old.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: True and most people also dont watch foreign dramas unfortunately which is why I was surprised Squid Game got so much attention. I really think its because Korea has been marketing toward the US for a while now.
Netflix has a lot of foreign shows. It is great. Of course, I had seen Japanese anime before, but now I'm exposed to European, Asian, Middle Eastern and even South American films and television.

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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Oh, if thats the case, I recommend checking out Liar Game if you enjoy the psychological games aspect. The Jdrama is not as good as the manga but still pretty well done with one smarter protagonist. Kin to Gin (金と銀) is also good (same author as Kaiji) but the story was never completed which was a shame.
I can't say that I loved the formula so much that I'd watch it indefinitely (most things are fine in controlled doses), but I'll look up "Liar Game" And "Kaiji", thanks.
Post edited April 23, 2022 by Magnitus