Heroic adding value to the GOG Linux gaming experience is not opinion-based. Just because you're content with some archaic, mind-numbingly clumsy workflow process to game on GOG, doesn't mean there isn't immense quality-of-life and a number of added features adding value by using Heroic or other FOSS tools.

It's a fact, not a debate on personal preferences.

the value of anything is a personal preference, based on your opinions of that anything.

How so? I don't believe that applies as a universal truth. If I were to take your statement at face-value, I could just say "what about the value of concrete things, such as money?". But I won't do that, seeing as I understand you meant it in a semantic way.

EverNightX specifically said "I don't see an added value." Of course it looks like he meant that he doesn't see an added value *to himself*, instead of objectively looking at features and QOL improvements. And maybe that should by default be inferred on a video gaming forum - that statements made are "for me personally, in my opinion only". But that's not always the case.

Sure, people can say that the improvements don't appeal to them and are not that useful for their case. And that's fine. That doesn't mean they don't actually exist though, especially for others. It's just a fact, which will not suddenly cease to be with an opinion or a debate.

Of course it is. What you consider QOL can be less QOL for someone else. If you do not want to install unnecessary bloated web software it's not a plus. If you want to install your games offline it's not a plus. My "antiquated" system allows for installs that amount to literally copying a folder and are far faster than you can be done with Heroic. If you enjoy launchers and UI to help you that's fine. We don't all have to enjoy launchers, or think they improve our QOL.

So you did mean that personally you don't see any added value.

I don't see how your process can be faster/more convenient than Heroic. But maybe you will convince me.

But wait. You came to a thread about GOG Linux launchers to announce you will never use a launcher because they suck and are bad? To the main developer of one of the best GOG Linux launchers? To tell him it's nothing to brag about?

*slowly backs away from person*

Heroic allow you to install any game now, you can download your offline installer and select it

Honestly I could care less about achievements, cloud saves, Galaxy etc. I am a strictly offline gamer. The biggest issue for me has been the lack of Linux support. There have been tons of games released lately with native Linux support elsewhere, but not here. It is really getting frustrating as I don't use Steam and wine can be a headache.

The other issue is the timeliness of the patches. Often the Linux builds wait for weeks longer to get patched than the windows version.

Edit: Also what is up with not including a Linux build for the dosbox titles lately? I know it isn't terribly difficult to do it yourself, but that is just sheer neglect.

Why are you making up things that were never said?

Again, I have to assume your reading comprehension is very poor. I said: "Using ELECTRON is hardly something to brag about."

in response to him saying: "Unlike Lutris and Minigalaxy that are GTK apps, heroic is a Electron app."
Which is true. In no way is it better to be using an Electron app on Linux vs one made with GTK.

I think this is actually on the developers though. I don't think GOG has anything to do with this.

Ok, I'm done white-knighting in a well-meaning thread from a major contributor to GOG Linux Gaming that makes playing games here more bearable. I think you are incredibly rude and condescending with how and what you said, but feel free to disagree. I'm sure you will ;)

I can see it being taken that way. But it doesn't make it not true.

it seems you are confused between "exisiting" and "having vale". noone is arguing that something do or do not exist, but what for them is the value of it. any value comes out of your own preference, and can only do so. you mention money here, but money / currency in itself do not actually have any value apart from what you can buy for it ("fungable tokens"). However, how much you pay for something, i.e. it's value, is up to your own prefernce. Somone may feel it is finr to spnd £100.000 on a beat up classic car, while another would not spend £100 on it. the currency is the same here, but the value of the concrete item (the classical car) is different according to each person.

(by the way, money is not a concrete thing, but an abstract we have created to manage trade, especially a trade between services and physical goods)

Yeah, actually what happened was that my distro's repository had no python-zstandard module, so I had to figure it out how to install this specific dependency using pip. Your 'requirements.txt' worked fine. It detected that only python-zstandard was missing and installed only that, so no problems with anything related to the Nile source and scripts, really.

By the way, I read the issue you posted. (https://github.com/imLinguin/nile/issues/22)
I've only tested with singleplayer games, but if I find any problems related to DRM and/or a necessity for a previous authentication with the Amazon Launcher, I will report it to you.

Also, may I ask, how is the progress with Nile implementation on Heroic?

You guys are doing an amazing job, thank you and everyone else that work on things like this to facilitate Linux gaming.

Thanks everyone for their input so far.

Please note this thread wasn't created to promote software I worked on. It's here to provide a view on current state of what we can do with GOG on Linux. I wasn't mentioning running Galaxy through wine since that doesn't allow for running native games.

I believe situtation will only improve, also with GOG's input (they are well aware of the current situation and want to improve it too).

This is really unrelated to this thread. Work haven't started yet since I'm currently focusing on GOG. Although there are other people in the team I'm mostly responsible for those new implementations.

Neither was I.

And this is neither here nor there, but let's indulge you for a minute :)

Money does not have intrinsic value, you are right, but it's a well-defined and measurable empirical metric of value. For all practical purposes it doesn't matter that it's a *symbolic* medium of exchange - 10 euros to you is 10 euros to your neighbour, in absolute terms. A bar of gold is worth X amount of euros etc. and so on.

Now you can argue until you're blue in the face about the definition and meaning of "value", be my guest. But these kind of semantic arguments are really dull to me and boring. Differing definitions, especially possibly lost in translation and weak communication on forum platforms, are usually the cause of these. People double down, even if the simple solution would be to simply ask for more clarification. "Is this what you meant?" "Are you saying that...?" "Can you clarify please?". Yet almost no one ever does that :(

At least let's stay in context and note how if someone was arguing that Heroic has no advantages to the GOG Linux gaming experience, they would be objectively wrong. However, as it turned out, the rude person was talking about himself only, and only the perceived added (non-)value to themselves, which is of course a different matter. Then, I would agree with you in that case. No need to disagree, or to continue this pointless discussion (i.e. please for the love of god let's move onto more stimulating discussions, like, how to pick one's nose in the most efficient way possible).

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Hi imLinguin, regarding Comet, I've sent you a friend request because I have some questions regarding it and I don't want to pollute your topic with troubleshooting posts.

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