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I have been eyeing this monitor for a while now. It seems like the perfect monitor, but one thing keeps putting me off. A lot of people report horrible color banding issues with heavy pixelation in dark gradients and generally dark areas.

Does anyone have this monitor and can speak from experience? I'm on an old 21.5 inch 1920x1080 TN monitor which doesn't have any color problems as far as I can notice and is actually quite decent overall. If the reported flaws on the Dell are as bad as people try to put them, then it would unfortunately be a deal breaker.

Any feedback is appreciated.
Got to say if a lot of people report it then that would be a NO for me.The makers don't have a good history in Australia and a lot of us would not take their equipment as freebies.But,don't let me put you off as it should have a warranty.
Post edited June 11, 2018 by Tauto
After using IPS panel (Dell U2515H) for a long while (for work and gaming purposes) I would not go back to any TN.
TN panel? No, no.
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Lexor: After using IPS panel (Dell U2515H) for a long while (for work and gaming purposes) I would not go back to any TN.
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ariaspi: TN panel? No, no.
Show me an IPS that is below 27 inches that has 2560x1440, G-sync and 144-165Hz then. I don't want and can't go beyond 24-25 inches in size. Even that is the highest acceptable maximum. The U2515H is the closest to a feasible alternative, the main problem there being that it is only 60Hz (and higher than 60 refresh rate is the main reason I'm looking for a new monitor).

A few notes:

A) 27 is way too big for comfortable use IMHO and it's too big for my table

B) The PPI increase would be barely noticeable on 27. Bear in mind that I'm used to the sharpness of a 102.5 PPI on my FHD 21.5 incher. When i buy a new monitor, I expect a noticeable image quality increase. 27 with WQHD is just marginally better (108.8 PPI) while 24 WQHD has 122.4 PPI, which is much better. When I am going to take a huge performance hit due to higher resolution, I want more than a 6% increase in PPI.



I have been using TNs my whole life and never had any problems with them. Paying premium just for somewhat better colors and having to go through the infamous IPS lottery with all the bleeding, IPS glow and backlight uniformity issues is not worth it for me, even more so when TN still have faster response times and lower input lag. And especially when juggling monitors that have "not clearly defined" issues is somewhat problematic with local retailers, I am not willing to risk receiving a flawed IPS monitor (seems there is a decent chance of that happening).

At his rate, I'm probably just going to wait AGAIN for something new to come up. I was just looking for a new monitor to go along with my eventual GPU upgrade (when the prices normalize somewhat).

So nobody here owns the S2417DG? Would love to hear someone's experience with it.
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idbeholdME: I have been using TNs my whole life and never had any problems with them. Paying premium just for somewhat better colors and having to go through the infamous IPS lottery with all the bleeding, IPS glow and backlight uniformity issues is not worth it for me,
I agree. I've got an IPS panel for the first time few weeks ago, and after replacing it 3 times I still get noticeable IPS glow and non-uniform temperature. I'd happily go back to TN, if there were any TN panels with 1920x1200 resolution.
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Tauto: But,don't let me put you off as it should have a warranty.
I have had to use a warranty with a monitor before. The manufacturer did replace it, but they but the kept sending me monitors that had their own problems. It was pretty clear they were just sending me other peoples returns.
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idbeholdME: Show me an IPS that is below 27 inches that has 2560x1440, G-sync and 144-165Hz then.
That's indeed difficult, but, still, I would rather change my expectations (or wait longer) than select TN.
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idbeholdME: I have been using TNs my whole life and never had any problems with them.
Have you ever used IPS panel for a few months then went back to TN? That will allow you to see "some" problems. ;)
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ZFR: I've got an IPS panel for the first time few weeks ago, and after replacing it 3 times I still get noticeable IPS glow and non-uniform temperature.
Here is my "magic trick" - never ever replace IPS panel monitor, just return it and then try to buy it in another shop.

Why? Most of replacement you will get are already "rejected" by other customers. Only the first "shot" is "genuine".

My personal (and my friends') IPS shopping experience confirms that "theory".
Post edited June 12, 2018 by Lexor
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ZFR: I've got an IPS panel for the first time few weeks ago, and after replacing it 3 times I still get noticeable IPS glow and non-uniform temperature.
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Lexor: Here is my "magic trick" - never ever replace IPS panel monitor, just return it and then try to buy it in another shop.

Why? Most of replacement you will get are already "rejected" by other customers. Only the first "shot" is "genuine".

My personal (and my friends') IPS shopping experience confirms that "theory".
I'm almost sure you're right.

The last one I got had a fingerprint on it. I got the feeling I've gotten someone else's rejection. And probably my rejection will end up with someone else.

After the third return I just wanted a monitor, and this one was the least of all evils I got (no dead pixels; no scratches; the IPS glow is only visible in black background, and the temperature on white - not something you notice when playing a video game).
I bought if off Amazon. Problem is, it's difficult to find an 1920x1200 monitors anymore in a brick and mortar shops. But next time I'll look more thoroughly.
Post edited June 12, 2018 by ZFR
Alright. I'm only buying monitors from brick and mortar stores from now on. I want to pull my own replacements directly off the store shelf.
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ZFR: I'm almost sure you're right.
Well, I'm more than sure I'm right. :D

Before buying my first IPS panel monitor I did half-a-year long research on IPSes, then I was studying "box opening" of my fav model on YT for a few weeks to check how it's packed. That way I was more than sure that "next samples" were just packed/returned by other customers - even the smallest details count and they are not really visible by "unknowing" eye "what to look for" (like paper with spec which is in the wrong place inside box).
Post edited June 12, 2018 by Lexor
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ZFR: I agree. I've got an IPS panel for the first time few weeks ago, and after replacing it 3 times I still get noticeable IPS glow and non-uniform temperature. I'd happily go back to TN, if there were any TN panels with 1920x1200 resolution.
Indeed, I find the lack of 16:10 monitors disturbing. Dead format my behind, I want my monitor to be taller, not be 2km wide as the trend seems to be going these days.
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Lexor: Have you ever used IPS panel for a few months then went back to TN? That will allow you to see "some" problems. ;)
Nope. But the issues of TN are much less annoying than those of IPS at least to me. No lottery (usually), better response times (and usually lower input lag) and it is cheaper. Regarding colors, I must have a really good TN monitor then because when I looked at an IPS monitor side by side, the color improvement wasn't as drastic as most people seem to put it. Definitely not something worth hundreds of bucks.

The only thing that is somewhat noticeable on TN is the gamma shift from center. This is almost unnoticeable on my 21.5 incher, but this issue will get worse on larger sized panels. Although I think that up to 24, TN is okay. 27 TN is indeed probably pointless.

Regarding color banding, on my current monitor, even this picture looks fine when looking dead on: https://assets.razerzone.com/eedownloads/desktop-wallpapers/RazerChroma_2560x1440.png

I've seen this picture used for testing color banding on a lot of sites and my monitor has visible banding only if viewed from above e.g. an angle I will never look at the monitor from. It is barely noticeable if not unnoticeable from my usual looking position.

I would grab the S2417DG immediately if it weren't for the color banding reports.
Post edited June 12, 2018 by idbeholdME
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idbeholdME: The only thing that is somewhat noticeable on TN is the gamma shift from center.
The other is the colour change when looking from an angle. I'd notice a difference between sitting upright and slouching.
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idbeholdME: I don't want and can't go beyond 24-25 inches in size.
you sound like my ex there, lol

Jokes aside - I think, its better to post such questions on related forums. Gaming community... well... its kinda like asking psychotherapist about pain inside rectum
Post edited June 12, 2018 by Gekko_Dekko
I run 2x 27" IPS panels on my main system, smaller size I can tolerate but I won't get another TN panel in my life, the color reproduction on IPS is just too good though, with TN I had to play with brightness and contrast to get similar results.