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Someone above me pretty much summed it up. Dragon's Dogma is a pretty good action adventure game with some RPG elements. It's not a great RPG by my definitions, similar to The Witcher 2, great action adventure game, piss poor RPG.

Skyrim is a true RPG, despite simple mechanics, short main story etc...it is you that forges your own story in your own way and in your own direction, without over scripting and being jerked around by cut scenes. You don't even have to bother with the main story to enjoy it. Try that with DD. Plus, like someone else said- nude mods. Like watching porn, everyone does it, no one admits to it.

You're not comparing apples with apples. They are quite different games with different aims. Play what type you currently feel like.

DD:DA has one as well. Better check the nexus again That's not true about Morrowind. You can't beat that one in 5 minutes. Good luck reaching Dagoth Ur on level 1, cause that just can't.
Oblivion is easy yes regarding the mainquest and that one can be beaten on level 1.

If someone did though, he or she would be a legend.

I guess I'm one of the few people who just didn't really care for Dragon's Dogma. The combat system is nice, but that's about it. The storytelling is downright incoherent (it feels like what should have been various exposition scenes and discussions were just never put into the game), the characters are pretty much just placeholders to hand out some quests, and most of the quests are just very obvious filler (collect 5 of item X, kill 10 of enemy Y) to stretch out a fairly short storyline (although calling it that is being rather generous). If you enjoy the combat system enough that running around and killing things is enough of a reason to keep you playing the game then that's fine, but if you're looking for a bit more than that then the game leaves much to be desired. But then again, I seem to be in a small minority with my opinion, so make what you will of that.

Vanilla Skyrim has a much better world (more places to explore, more quests to engage in, etc), although quite a few of the game mechanics are rather clunky. Modded Skyrim can be a pretty amazing game, although it can take a bit of work to get a good set of mods lined up. Or you could grab Skyrim, then grab the total conversion mod Enderal, and have a great RPG ready to play without much hassle.

Did they remove the wicked rock song that played at the start of the game?? cause I remember dodger and jesse cox talking about this game on the co optional way back and the song was like the bread and butter with the pawn system.

See this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gON5k2kw3as

This run gets to Dagoth Ur at level 1 by using a Scroll of Icarian Flight to jump there from Balmora (and another one to not die), then uses a version 1.0 exclusive (IIRC) glitch to semi-permanently raise Speed to ridiculous levels. (It's also interesting to note that the player never finishes character creation; therefore the ability to save the game is never unlocked.)

The All Main Quests run (which is something on the order of 30 minutes IIRC) actually does need to level up to level 3 at some point, but that goes quickly if you have enough Luck (thanks to the glitch mentioned above) to make arbitrary deals with merchants.

Edit: Note that the video I linked does contain (at least part of) the ending, so be aware of that if you are spoiler-averse (I'm not).

Combat is much better en DDDA but the world is very stale and looks the same everywhere. There are also less monsters to fight but the Dragons are great.

Skyrim has a much better world and lore but combat sucks.


I have 355 hours in Skyrim but only 35 in DD so there is that.

Well Dragon's Dogma actually feels and plays like a proper RPG and you can have a party.
The world is way better than the horrible, lazy "copy and paste" job Skyrim has to offer (every Inn, every Longhouse looks the same, most dungeons and especially the dwemer ruins are basically the same)
Gameplay is better, the clunky fighting in Skyrim can't even be really fixed with mods, while Dragon's Dogma has pretty good controls (despite it being a console port, keyboard & mouse works fine) and a great fighting system
The story of course is better because Bethesda can't write a good, coherent story even if their existence depended on it. The characters in DD are way more memorable, with more depth.
The character creation in Dragon's Dogma is way more advanced and varied to the point where people had no problem re-creating video game or real life characters even.
and unlike Skyrim the game is actually finished and has little to no bugs and runs very stable.

Overall i enjoyed Dragon's Dogma so much that after buying and playing it on the Xbox360 i bought it again for the PC.
Skyrim on the other hand i only played after installing 106 mods (no joke) which turned the mess into somewhat of a playable game that even resembled a RPG thanks to user-created quests and stories that were miles ahead of what Bethesda made. So if you're willing to install a ton of mods and spend 1-2 hours trying to get the load order in check, Skyrim might be worth trying but if you had to chose, get Dragon's Dogma it's way, way better.

Just downright cheating and not playing the game by normal means. Then you can finish every game in this way and say it takes 5 minutes to finish. No, this doesn't count.. By normal playing dagoth ur can't be beaten at level 1. Period.

It's not cheating at all; it's playing the game as it was programmed (and not using the console).

I note that, in particular, the Scrolls of Icarian Flight were put in there deliberately by the developers, and allowed Dagoth Ur to be reached at level 1.

Not every game can be finished this fast by known methods, also. Arena and Daggerfall, for example, take longer to speedrun (and that's *with* major glitches).