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tremere110: I binged the whole thing. I enjoyed it. It captures the feel of the series to me at least. There were definite nods to the games - hacking and the water chip for instance. There were also instances where they seemed to mess with Fallout canon a bit but they could be misdirections. It did leave a few questions on some things quite open with no clear answers this season.

All I know next season is gonna stomp over 1 particular game in the series and will undoubtedly piss some fans off.
It already stomped that one particular game in the series.
To be honest, I think the demarcation line is going to be:

1) If you are a fan of the OG Fallouts and maybe New Vegas - you probably won't like it.
2) If you like Bethesda's Fallout - you probably will like it.

For my taste, the show goes too hard against a lot of the established lore from the original games in many regards (Bethesda likes doing that even in their Fallout games). But if you have not played them and don't know the games by heart, which 99% of the people who are going to be watching this will not as it's mainly targeted for the mainstream audience, not lore enthusiasts, then you will probably find it enjoyable. Although there were several scenes that just oozed "millenial writing".
Post edited April 13, 2024 by idbeholdME
Jesus Christ and stupid bots...
Well form the looks of it. Fallout is better than rings of power... Though that isn't a hard bar to beat.

Looks a bit heavy on the Maguffin hunt, trying to tell two stories as well as push the shock value of gore on screen, while having a 'look it's fallout! See the references?!?'. It's more trying to convince you it's fallout rather than just being fallout.

I'm not sure if it would be better, where two or three episodes are dedicated to the nuclear event, the vaults, and vault life. Then an episode of the main character going off into the desert, do a 'castaway' feel where there's very little communication and it's very much survival as they go miles and miles of desert and their thoughts as they write in a journal; It's possible they have nothing to say and the audio is just the ambience of the world. That or have a dog to hang out with and keep your sanity. Then the 4th episode picks up where they start looking for clues for the maguffin or person needed for the key to their quest. Remember the first fallout game was you were a vault dweller, sent out to get parts to replace and fix a water purifier, not to save the world or anything big like that, then you had like 60-90 days before the vault would have died due to lack of water.

Then on say a 24 episode season, 1-3 episode arcs dealing with other people's problems, overcoming fear, learning the wasteland more, ghouls fighting as well as the intelligent ones, hacking and repairing machines and otherwise becoming a full fledged character. Maybe even finding love, or giving someone else closure of their lost love. There should actually be very little action overall unless they are under threat or having to invade somewhere to get something important.

Then the last 2 episodes of finding the maguffin/thing, closing off any plot points not needed for season 2, and getting home safe and sound.
Post edited April 14, 2024 by rtcvb32
Its definitely not an amazing series imo but still quite serviceable compared to other stuff on tv.

The dialogue feels a little too quiet but solvable with subtitles. The costumes are great and I think the actress is good and also gives Cavill vibes by actually playing the games as research for her role. Definitely not good for pre-Bethesda Fallout fans due to lore changes but for a casual fan or viewer, I think it was honestly pretty good so far.
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rtcvb32: Looks a bit heavy on the Maguffin hunt, trying to tell two stories as well as push the shock value of gore on screen, while having a 'look it's fallout! See the references?!?'. It's more trying to convince you it's fallout rather than just being fallout.

Remember the first fallout game was you were a vault dweller, sent out to get parts to replace and fix a water purifier, not to save the world or anything big like that, then you had like 60-90 days before the vault would have died due to lack of water.
Agreed on the references.

Incidentally, the broken water chip reference was one of those they obviously put zero thought into. You'd think that'd be a pretty big deal, yet the show completely forgets about it like 20 seconds after it is mentioned :D

Unless they remember it in the next seasons, which I seriously doubt.
....time travel oopsie?......again?

;)
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idbeholdME: 1) If you are a fan of the OG Fallouts and maybe New Vegas - you probably won't like it.
2) If you like Bethesda's Fallout - you probably will like it.
I personally haven't watched the show (and most probably won't any time soon) but it seems to be the general consensus, the show is "respectful" of the source material... but only the Bethesda source material, it goes out of it's way to trash anything before 3 and also NV. Whenever it's due to Bethesda usual crappy writing or a conscious attempt to get rid of anything not created by them (Especially New Vegas) seems to be the only debate.
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idbeholdME: 1) If you are a fan of the OG Fallouts and maybe New Vegas - you probably won't like it.
2) If you like Bethesda's Fallout - you probably will like it.
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Gersen: I personally haven't watched the show (and most probably won't any time soon) but it seems to be the general consensus, the show is "respectful" of the source material... but only the Bethesda source material, it goes out of it's way to trash anything before 3 and also NV. Whenever it's due to Bethesda usual crappy writing or a conscious attempt to get rid of anything not created by them (Especially New Vegas) seems to be the only debate.
If you mean the Shady Sands apparetnly being destroyed in 2277, that seems more like a silly mistake than a deliberate attempt of removing New Vegas from the canon. Keep in minf that this is only a reference written on a blackboard in episode 6, and Pagliarula have later stated the games in the canon and the time line, which is:
* Bombs drop - 2077
* Fallout 76 - 2102
* Fallout 1 – 2161
* Fallout Tactics - 2197
* Fallout 2 – 2241
* Fallout 3 – 2277
* Fallout: New Vegas – 2281
* Fallout 4 – 2287
* Fallout TV show – 2296

So New Vegas has not been written out, it is much more likely that the continuity girl wrote the wrong date on the board an noone noticed until the interwebs fan spoted it. But internet being internet and fans being fans...
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Gersen: I personally haven't watched the show (and most probably won't any time soon) but it seems to be the general consensus, the show is "respectful" of the source material...
Not sure. Watching other reviews of the show it's basically star wars/cowboy bebop/halo all over again. Girls can do just about anything, males are incompetent, forced 'diversity', LGBT inclusion (for no understandable reason all things considered), obvious deviations from lore, incorporating bad modern concepts/lingo; And likely the longer it goes the worse it will get.

I say wait a couple months for everything to get digested and then decide if it's worth watching from your preferred youtube personality.
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Gersen: I personally haven't watched the show (and most probably won't any time soon) but it seems to be the general consensus, the show is "respectful" of the source material...
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rtcvb32: Not sure. Watching other reviews of the show it's basically star wars/cowboy bebop/halo all over again. Girls can do just about anything, males are incompetent, forced 'diversity', LGBT inclusion (for no understandable reason all things considered), obvious deviations from lore, incorporating bad modern concepts/lingo;
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You really need to expand your horizons a little bit, and not just be stuck in your biased little information bubble.
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amok: So New Vegas has not been written out
Vegas will definitely be present in some way, considering the ending. I just doubt it's going to have anything to do with the game other than "being Vegas" and Bethesda is going to try putting its own spin on it.

I finished the season, but mostly so that I could be informed about it. Likely won't come back to the subsequent seasons. It was fun seeing Fallout looking things on screen (the sets and props do look quite good) but considering the things I did not like...
Post edited April 14, 2024 by idbeholdME
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amok: You really need to expand your horizons a little bit, and not just be stuck in your biased little information bubble.
My 'bubble'. Personally i watch regularly to keeping up on pop culture events i use Geeks & Gamers, Yellow Flash, Clownfish TV, Midnight's edge, The Critical Drinker, Overlord DVD, and WDW Pro. So far they've proven themselves to be informed and trustworthy. These last two videos involving fallout? Never seen those channels before; And unless they are outright lying about everything then it suggests it's the same BS we've seen in movies and shows in the last 10 years, except people are just getting sick of it.

I intend to take the same stance as i did when 'Force Awakens' came out, which is to wait and see how things unfold, rather than get hyped or watch it. And i'm glad i did. If it comes out as good i'll consider it, and if it's bad i'll pass on it, no more and no less.

edit: Oh look Critical Drinker talks about Fallout TV series. At this point if he says it's crap i'll agree with him.
Post edited April 15, 2024 by rtcvb32
Ah, yes, the sign of the true (obnoxious and insufferable) nerd. Everything needs to be 100% accurate! Whatever that means with each iteration fudging things around. Even the originals weren't immune to that: here's looking at you, Fallout 2, and your cavalcade of out-of-place jokes/references, among other things.

I never expect complete adherence to everything in any adaptation. More important to me is that they did a good job with the whole vibe of the Fallout world with good acting, decent writing, and passable story. Honestly, my initial expectations were very low (especially with most game adaptations being terrible), so I was pleasantly surprised.
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amok: If you mean the Shady Sands apparetnly being destroyed in 2277, that seems more like a silly mistake than a deliberate attempt of removing New Vegas from the canon. Keep in minf that this is only a reference written on a blackboard in episode 6, and Pagliarula have later stated the games in the canon and the time line, which is:
* Bombs drop - 2077
* Fallout 76 - 2102
* Fallout 1 – 2161
* Fallout Tactics - 2197
* Fallout 2 – 2241
* Fallout 3 – 2277
* Fallout: New Vegas – 2281
* Fallout 4 – 2287
* Fallout TV show – 2296

So New Vegas has not been written out, it is much more likely that the continuity girl wrote the wrong date on the board an noone noticed until the interwebs fan spoted it. But internet being internet and fans being fans...
Fallout 4 already removes anything outside of Bethesda games from canon.

Or to be more precise, Fallout 4 creates it's own continuity.
Post edited April 14, 2024 by Mafwek