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bler144: Why HSL?
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Lifthrasil: Why not? This is a quick game. We won't win this game by endless discussions and deliberations but by finding out who isn't willing to shoot certain players. I.e. who is playing as team and who is flying blind. There are no valuable PRs either, so I'll just shoot everyone and see how they respond until a pattern emerges. You should also shoot someone.
You iz ded...
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adaliabooks: You iz ded...
oh yeah!
quiet from the dead!
Will I need to shoot zombie Lifthrasil in the head in order to ensure a kill??
No shots/posts yet from D3adb01t and supplementscene .
skimmed to catch up

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HypersomniacLive: I'm just telling you to factor in that Lifthrasil's scum.
Should I, like, still do that? I mean, I didn't personally think it was highly relevant either way, but I'm not seeing the benefit in doing that particularly now.


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HypersomniacLive: What about PoppyAppletree made you shoot at her?
Rhetorical questions are wolfy.

But seriously, go back and read the first 6 openers after PMs went out. Who looks like they're trying to be disarming without actually saying anything of use to anyone else?

It's not Lift/ZFR (both already flipped town anyway), and certainly not Wyrm. All 3 of those really make no effort to avoid drawing fire. Wyrm raises his risk profile a bit, though could be going for the WIFOM of looking wolfy, and he doesn't threaten anyone in particular which does matter here.

mchack's is a mess, but I'm reading it different than you - to me that's kinda derpcleartown and he's (wisely or no) inviting fire from not 1, but 3 players.

I won't tell you what you should think of mine. Poppy looks like the one to me who's trying to lower her target risk without actually doing anything to town it up.

You're behaving oddly, but...meh for now.

If maf!Poppy I'd be more interested in flub's coming after me after my shot on her.
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bler144: ...........

If maf!Poppy I'd be more interested in flub's coming after me after my shot on her.
So would shooting at you be bad or good??
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bler144: ...........

If maf!Poppy I'd be more interested in flub's coming after me after my shot on her.
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flubbucket: So would shooting at you be bad or good??
Well, if she is mafia, you attempting to kill me right after my shot at her would be bad, imo.

I know you're not big on exposition, but I am still a bit curious what your motivation was for shooting at me. I get the avatar part of your post (not sure why HSL doesn't), but that explains only why you moved on from Lift, not why you jumped to me.



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Lifthrasil: Why not? This is a quick game. We won't win this game by endless discussions and deliberations but by finding out who isn't willing to shoot certain players. I.e. who is playing as team and who is flying blind. There are no valuable PRs either, so I'll just shoot everyone and see how they respond until a pattern emerges. You should also shoot someone.
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flubbucket: This.
I mean, I get this, but you still presumably have some decision making or priority and aren't just going full random mode, right?

Also, not necessarily at you but in general, I get Lift's point there, but it's easy to take it too far. For one, there are 3 scum, so I wouldn't jump to assuming no bussing happens, esp. on shots early in counts where the odds are still generally in their favor.

For two, depending on RNG and shot choice as the game progresses, there may not be enough data to meaningfully map out who's avoiding whoooom.

Also unlike the last game which wrapped in like 3 hours start to finish, this game is a bunch of hours in with a long way to go. So might as well try some solving/sorting, right?
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ZFR: Since this is the closest I'll get to playing real Russian Roulette

Shoot ZFR
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JoeSapphire: *BANG*
Jamie screamed in his feminine voice as the gun is pointed at him. Now he's not making any sound.

ZFR is dead. He was Jamie O'Leary. Town.
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ZFR: Oh crap.

Note to self: do *not* play Russian Roulette in real life.
ROFL OWNED! XD

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Shoot HSL
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Bookwyrm627: Shoot HSL
*click*
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Bookwyrm627: Shoot HSL
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JoeSapphire: *click*
Uhhh...having just looked at the rules 20 min ago they stipulate only valid shots counted.

"3. All players may attempt shoot the gun at any player of their choice (including themselves), as long as there are shots remaining in the gun (6 total shots and 1 live round per reload). Only living players are valid targets. "

ZFR is still dead, isn't he?
Nevermind me, just hanging out and derping on a Saturday night.

I blame RBG and TVZ.
Post Sh Shtr Trgt Result
37 1-1 ZFR ZFR kill
45 2-1 Lift HSL click
53 2-2 bler Pop click
59 2-3 flub bler click
63 2-4 trent Lift click
68 2-5 HSL Lift kill
70 3-1 adal HSL click
83 3-2 wyr HSL click

Players still to shoot: Poppy, mchack, deadbolt, scene
Barring modkill, at least one of those 4 def. gets a kill.

Still alive players targeted by other live players: HSL (2 - adal/wyrm), Poppy (1 - bler), bler (1 - flub)
I guess I'll give you an hour until it's deadline
seeing as how I forgot to actually set one for this gun.
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HypersomniacLive: I do, but I want mchack to answer my questions before I decided whom to shoot.
oops, sorry about that, didn't mean to, but I fell asleep yesterday (bringing the kids to bed) before checking the game progress again. Now I'm on and will reply.

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HypersomniacLive: Three questions for you:

1. Do tell, how will all and everyone die given the setup and rules of the game?
2. Did you read the first iteration of this setup?
3. Who's the reluctant shooter?
1. ok fair. at least one player will survive
2. yep. some time ago (when bookwyrm mentioned it first) and this impression was what made me think blind killing isn't the best of strategies. (although this game should work different anyhow, since reloading the colt doesn't reset shooting rights, hence I said the bit about the reluctant shooter)
3. you. But well now you gone and killed poor lift and I haven't even taken my shot. so I guess I should take that back ;)

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mchack: [...] With the reluctant shooter in our ranks there should be a bit of time to actually gather clues before everyone's dead ;)
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HypersomniacLive: I think his "reluctant shooter" refers to me. Assume mchack's town - how can he know the reluctant shooter is in our (i.e. town's) ranks? He can't, but how can he even assume that I'm in the town ranks when I hadn't posted a single word yet at that point? I think he overdid it trying to appear town (that post has a tad too much of a LAMIST tone overall), and slipped there.
yeah, I noticed this after I posted too. *Note to self re-read before posting not after.* Well, it's no slip but I understand it can be interpreted that way. What I meant with "in our ranks" was "in our playerbase" meaning playing with us. badly worded. sorry. but that's me. *shrug*

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So who to shoot at now.
hmm,
since a lot has happened (poor zfr, he always was the curious kind) and I still don't have a clearer picture who might be scum, I'll just go with my initial lean and go after bookwyrm. he hasn't posted anything in the meantime that made me think him town. so

shoot bookwyrm627
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JoeSapphire: I guess I'll give you an hour until it's deadline
seeing as how I forgot to actually set one for this gun.
If at the end of the hour no one is dead and you randomly kill someone does that mean everything resets as in anyone can shoot again?