Posted February 20, 2021
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
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Swissy88
The Great Below
Registered: Mar 2019
From United States
Posted February 21, 2021
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Edit: Why the low rating?
Vacuum cleans computer. "Fan supposed to go on at 80c" uh, fan should always be on. It should turn on well before 80c.
* Throttles at 100 C to around 250MHz (unusably slow unless I switch to the terminal) ???
* If running at 100 C for too long, will shut down
??? What? My CPU is at 30c.
A cooler isn't the problem, it's probably full of cat hair because you have never cleaned it or taken care of it.
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted February 21, 2021
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Edit: Why the low rating?
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Vacuum cleans computer. "Fan supposed to go on at 80c" uh, fan should always be on. It should turn on well before 80c.
* Throttles at 100 C to around 250MHz (unusably slow unless I switch to the terminal) ???
* If running at 100 C for too long, will shut down
??? What? My CPU is at 30c.
A cooler isn't the problem, it's probably full of cat hair because you have never cleaned it or taken care of it.
It's possible the fan may have been running at a constant rate without increasing at 80C. It *used* to increase in volume at 80C, but that stopped working one day.
Not looking into an "actual" GPU because they're expensive these days, I don't tend to play particularly demanding games, and I don't want to spend too much on a specialized piece of hardware. The one notable game that failed to run on this desktop is Ikenfell, and I can run that game just fine on a laptop with lower specs.
That laptop I mentioned? Celeron CPU, 4GB RAM, 64GB eMMC (which is slow, particularly in comparison to the PCIe SSD in my other laptop), and no fan, as it runs just fine without it. (Note that the CPU is more recent than my desktop's i5-4670, so the integrated GPU is more modern, and hence supports more modern features.)
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Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
Registered: Apr 2012
From Hungary
Posted February 21, 2021
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Edit: Why the low rating?
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Vacuum cleans computer. "Fan supposed to go on at 80c" uh, fan should always be on. It should turn on well before 80c.
* Throttles at 100 C to around 250MHz (unusably slow unless I switch to the terminal) ???
* If running at 100 C for too long, will shut down
??? What? My CPU is at 30c.
A cooler isn't the problem, it's probably full of cat hair because you have never cleaned it or taken care of it.
how hard is it to buy a new cooler? costs like $10 max maybe
and all maintenance wouldn't take more than 2 hours
still couldn't fix it, pathetic
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted February 21, 2021
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Vacuum cleans computer. "Fan supposed to go on at 80c" uh, fan should always be on. It should turn on well before 80c.
* Throttles at 100 C to around 250MHz (unusably slow unless I switch to the terminal) ???
* If running at 100 C for too long, will shut down
??? What? My CPU is at 30c.
A cooler isn't the problem, it's probably full of cat hair because you have never cleaned it or taken care of it.
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how hard is it to buy a new cooler? costs like $10 max maybe
and all maintenance wouldn't take more than 2 hours
still couldn't fix it, pathetic
(This is not counting USB cooling fans, which are not what you'd typically install when building a new computer, but more used if USB happens to be the most convenient connection available.)
What's wrong with that?
(Also, that wasn't my reason for making the post.)
Post edited February 21, 2021 by dtgreene
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Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
Registered: Apr 2012
From Hungary
Posted February 21, 2021
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how hard is it to buy a new cooler? costs like $10 max maybe
and all maintenance wouldn't take more than 2 hours
still couldn't fix it, pathetic
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(This is not counting USB cooling fans, which are not what you'd typically install when building a new computer, but more used if USB happens to be the most convenient connection available.)
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(Also, that wasn't my reason for making the post.)
search for : intel 4 pin 3.5-Inch Fan For Desktop PC Computer it is just 9$
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StationaryNomad
Truckin' Along
Registered: Mar 2015
From United States
Posted February 21, 2021
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(This is not counting USB cooling fans, which are not what you'd typically install when building a new computer, but more used if USB happens to be the most convenient connection available.)
https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Gravity-Intel-Cooler-CLP0556-D/dp/B00O4UIZ86/
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teceem
Ack Ack Ack!
Registered: Apr 2013
From Belgium
Posted February 21, 2021
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(This is not counting USB cooling fans, which are not what you'd typically install when building a new computer, but more used if USB happens to be the most convenient connection available.)
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https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Gravity-Intel-Cooler-CLP0556-D/dp/B00O4UIZ86/
My pick: The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is great value for money. Why try to save 20 dollars on a CPU cooler?
Funny story; 8 years ago - I moved my desktop, car-in-car out, I was really careful with it - the intel stock cooler on the Core2Duo just fell off! 2 of those plastic pins were broken.
I quality cooler might weigh close to 1 kg - the through-motherboard connection is very solid.
Post edited February 21, 2021 by teceem
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StationaryNomad
Truckin' Along
Registered: Mar 2015
From United States
Posted February 22, 2021
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https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Gravity-Intel-Cooler-CLP0556-D/dp/B00O4UIZ86/
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My pick: The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is great value for money. Why try to save 20 dollars on a CPU cooler?
Funny story; 8 years ago - I moved my desktop, car-in-car out, I was really careful with it - the intel stock cooler on the Core2Duo just fell off! 2 of those plastic pins were broken.
I quality cooler might weigh close to 1 kg - the through-motherboard connection is very solid.
2. "Why try to save 20 dollars on a CPU cooler?" Because 20 dollars may not be a lot to you personally, but for some people that is their week's grocery budget or gasoline/bus fare to get to work budget. Not everyone has and extra 20 dollars lying around to blow on PC parts.
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pds41
New User
Registered: May 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted February 22, 2021
@dtgreene
My advice if you're replacing the CPU cooler is to do research first, and read the instructions before ordering. This is because the replacement cooler may not use the stock mounting system - and replacing the mounting system can be done in multiple ways - from just unscrewing and replacing something on the front, to installing a full new back plate behind the motherboard (which will involve removing the motherboard from your case.
Based on previous posts of yours I have seen where you comment on not having opened the case previously because the desktop is heavy and comments on how some people wouldn't have a desktop on the floor because it's hard to bend over, there's a possibility that you're not the strongest or most physically able person. If this is the case, you might want to get some help or a professional to replace the part for you.
My advice if you're replacing the CPU cooler is to do research first, and read the instructions before ordering. This is because the replacement cooler may not use the stock mounting system - and replacing the mounting system can be done in multiple ways - from just unscrewing and replacing something on the front, to installing a full new back plate behind the motherboard (which will involve removing the motherboard from your case.
Based on previous posts of yours I have seen where you comment on not having opened the case previously because the desktop is heavy and comments on how some people wouldn't have a desktop on the floor because it's hard to bend over, there's a possibility that you're not the strongest or most physically able person. If this is the case, you might want to get some help or a professional to replace the part for you.
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dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted February 22, 2021
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My advice if you're replacing the CPU cooler is to do research first, and read the instructions before ordering. This is because the replacement cooler may not use the stock mounting system - and replacing the mounting system can be done in multiple ways - from just unscrewing and replacing something on the front, to installing a full new back plate behind the motherboard (which will involve removing the motherboard from your case.
Based on previous posts of yours I have seen where you comment on not having opened the case previously because the desktop is heavy and comments on how some people wouldn't have a desktop on the floor because it's hard to bend over, there's a possibility that you're not the strongest or most physically able person. If this is the case, you might want to get some help or a professional to replace the part for you.
With that said, I am putting this particular purchase on hold until I notice the CPU throttling again. (Running at full 3.4GHz and it's not overheating when watching 720p60 YouTube videos. Haven't tried running games like Hollow Knight (which I would expect to be playable on this system now) on it.)
This does, however, get me thinking about possible upgrades, like a GPU (but I don't want to spend too much on it), or perhaps USB-C (is there a way I could add it that would be capable of powering a Raspberry Pi 4?). Then again, there's the question of when it just makes sense to build a new computer entirely, as this computer is still rather old (and no amount of maintainence will make it new).
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Registered: Mar 2012
From Netherlands
Posted February 22, 2021
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kohlrak
One Sooty Birb - Available on DLsite.com, not
Registered: Aug 2014
From United States
Posted February 23, 2021
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* A good quality 2.5A power supply can be used if downstream USB peripherals consume less than 500mA in total.
What's the output of your system? Your power supply unit needs to provide enough amperes, and your mobo has to let them through (most likely should). As for adding the ports, that depends alot on what options your motherboard has available. Odds are, you're going to want it in the front, but it might end up being in the back. Frankly, i'd be looking at USB-C adapters if I were you. I recently got one at walmart for about 2 bucks, because all I have is USB-Micro devices. However the question is also worth asking if your USB controller on your motherboard knows how to adjust resistance to avoid over-amping. If not, it'll likely be limited to somewhere betwee 500mA to 2A, which seems to be a no for the pi.