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Hello, i have a Compaq Laptop with Ati Radeon Graphics and Windows XP, i would like to put XP games like Doom 3, Quake 3, etc and let this beautiful machine for play retro games but i don´t want to use torrent for download because risk of virus, i want to buy them, but i don´t know where.

Please help me, Thanks
Post edited May 25, 2021 by oldretrogameraldo
Buy them from here and use the offline installer.

You can also use ports.

If the WINXP craps out try Lubuntu on that rig for some solid retro gaming with modern port support.
Where to buy Doom 3 and Quake 3? Well, you're asking in the right spot, as they can be bought here. Search the store by clicking the magnifying glass symbol in the upper right of the website and you'll find:

https://www.gog.com/game/quake_iii_gold and https://www.gog.com/game/doom_3_bfg_edition

The only downside is, GOG creates games to be compatible with modern system, so you can't be sure that when they update a game, it won't break backwards compatibility with OS's that are no longer supported.

You could ask if anyone who owns the game and owns a XP machine can test it.

*edit after reading above post: Right, I completely forgot people might be thinking Galaxy is the only way to play. Luckily it isn't, even though GOG seems to try to do it's best to hide it's offline installers and promote Galaxy as their client. But you don't need it. Just download and execute the installer and you're done.

And if you want to keep gaming in XP, keep the old versions of the installer in case it gets updated.
Post edited May 25, 2021 by DubConqueror
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oldretrogameraldo: Hello, i have a Compaq Laptop with Ati Radeon Graphics and Windows XP, i would like to put XP games like Doom 3, Quake 3, etc and let this beautiful machine for play retro games but i don´t want to use torrent for download because risk of virus, i want to buy them, but i don´t know where.

Please help me, Thanks
Why? These games run perfectly on later operating systems, they not “Xp” games. XP is out of service, you will not get any support trying to get things working on it
The games are for sale here, but again, you will not get support on such an old operating system.
Getting games on GOG (or any other store for that matter) that can be emulated could be interesting too.
From my experience, emulated games tend to run better in 3rd party emulators than the ones they come packaged with.
You just need to install the games (probably on another machine, usually x64 bits, or in your PC if you install a x64 Linux distro first), then get the needed files and emulate them in your old PC.
The worst part is finding emulators that work on WinXP or Linux distros, but once you do, you're pretty much set.

If you're interested, here's 2 threads that explain where and how to get legit games that can be emulated:
For games published on GOG:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/rom_based_gog_games_compatible_with_third_party_emulators_thread
For games from pretty much anywhere, as far as the source is legal:
https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/10918/where-to-legally-acquire-content-to-play-on-retropie

Happy gaming!
Post edited May 26, 2021 by _Auster_
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oldretrogameraldo: Hello, i have a Compaq Laptop with Ati Radeon Graphics and Windows XP, i would like to put XP games like Doom 3, Quake 3, etc and let this beautiful machine for play retro games but i don´t want to use torrent for download because risk of virus, i want to buy them, but i don´t know where.

Please help me, Thanks
If you want original non-updated copies you'll probably have to buy them physical like Amazon (would shipping costs to Chile be pretty bad?). Otherwise you might have to use the method you don't want to (though imo there are somewhat "reputable" "abandonware" sites); download the ISO files and mount them or burn them to CD.

If you're willing to go the "abandonware" route, try out LEGO Island (the XP version) :P you probably won't play long but it's a wild time
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oldretrogameraldo: Hello, i have a Compaq Laptop with Ati Radeon Graphics and Windows XP, i would like to put XP games like Doom 3, Quake 3, etc and let this beautiful machine for play retro games but i don´t want to use torrent for download because risk of virus, i want to buy them, but i don´t know where.

Please help me, Thanks
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nightcraw1er.488: Why? These games run perfectly on later operating systems, they not “Xp” games. XP is out of service, you will not get any support trying to get things working on it
The games are for sale here, but again, you will not get support on such an old operating system.
They are games for old OS like XP and there is a difference between gog breaking support and games not supporting it in the first place.
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nightcraw1er.488: Why? These games run perfectly on later operating systems, they not “Xp” games. XP is out of service, you will not get any support trying to get things working on it
The games are for sale here, but again, you will not get support on such an old operating system.
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§pectre: They are games for old OS like XP and there is a difference between gog breaking support and games not supporting it in the first place.
Given some of the issues i've seen people had, i'm not really relying on gog to even support a title, really, either.
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Arcadius-8606: Buy them from here and use the offline installer.

You can also use ports.

If the WINXP craps out try Lubuntu on that rig for some solid retro gaming with modern port support.
Please, if you actually knew anything about gaming on linux you'd know WINE has its own share of compatibility issues, regressions, let alone getting 16 bit support working since it's been disabled in the kernel. Any gamer would tell you that native support is far superior and has less problems than working with a wrapper like WINE.

WINE is for when you don't have another option, this person has an XP machine with XP era hardware, why should he bother with the issues of a compatibility layer?
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nightcraw1er.488: Why? These games run perfectly on later operating systems, they not “Xp” games. XP is out of service, you will not get any support trying to get things working on it
The games are for sale here, but again, you will not get support on such an old operating system.
Why are there so many people like you who have no clue how computers work and thus repeat such ignorant babble about how operating systems go out of service and how everyone needs the latest operating system (specifically a WINDOWS operating system.)
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DubConqueror: The only downside is, GOG creates games to be compatible with modern system, so you can't be sure that when they update a game, it won't break backwards compatibility with OS's that are no longer supported.
This 100%.

My GOG version of Jade Empire wouldn't work on my Windows XP machine until I deleted the d3d9.dll file from the directory after installing the game with the GOG installer. I'm sure many other GOG versions of XP games require tweaks or have potential breaks vs a retail copy.
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nightcraw1er.488: Why? These games run perfectly on later operating systems, they not “Xp” games. XP is out of service, you will not get any support trying to get things working on it
The games are for sale here, but again, you will not get support on such an old operating system.
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§pectre: They are games for old OS like XP and there is a difference between gog breaking support and games not supporting it in the first place.
Are you saying that doom 3 only works on win xp? Nonsense, I have had it running on win 10 (patch 1.2 removes safedisc which win 10 thankfully no longer supports) and there is the new engine reimplementation (dhwem) that’s better to use now anyways. Against all the “it doesn’t run on win10” anti windows opionion that seems to be running through here nowadays, nothing I have tried has failed to run on win 10
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IAmBored2: Please, if you actually knew anything about gaming on linux you'd know WINE has its own share of compatibility issues, regressions, let alone getting 16 bit support working since it's been disabled in the kernel. Any gamer would tell you that native support is far superior and has less problems than working with a wrapper like WINE.

WINE is for when you don't have another option, this person has an XP machine with XP era hardware, why should he bother with the issues of a compatibility layer?
Why did you mention WINE when I was talking about ports?
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IAmBored2: Please, if you actually knew anything about gaming on linux you'd know WINE has its own share of compatibility issues, regressions, let alone getting 16 bit support working since it's been disabled in the kernel. Any gamer would tell you that native support is far superior and has less problems than working with a wrapper like WINE.

WINE is for when you don't have another option, this person has an XP machine with XP era hardware, why should he bother with the issues of a compatibility layer?
If it is e.g. a GOG version he tries to play, it doesn't necessarily even work on XP anymore. Either the new GOG installer itself doesn't (necessarily) work on XP, or it contains some 3rd party fixes or tools (like nGlide etc.) that is not meant to work on XP machines.

But if it is the original retail version of an old game, possibly with some copy protection method that doesn't work right on modern Windows or Linux WINE ("Peter Jackson's King Kong" is one such game, for instance), or a game which needs e.g. a slower PC to function correctly (e.g. Mechwarrior 3 or Interstate'76), then an old XP retromachine may be the best option.

As for WINE being "the last option", I've had an opposite experience so far, as far as older Windows games are concerned. For instance, I've been playing the GOG version of Icewind Dale 2 on the following machines:

1. Windows 7 64bit (ASUS G75VW)
2. Linux Mint 19.3 XFCE (ASUS G75VW, ie. the same PC as above)
3. Linux Mint 20.1 XFCE (an old cheapo eMachines G730ZG)
4. Windows 10 Pro 64bit (my Dell work laptop, the fastest PC I have at the moment).

Guess where the game runs the best? The two Linux Mint machines, with WINE. Go figure.

In Windows 7 is works pretty well too, but IIRC it originally had some issues which I was able to get rid of either by changing the game's compatibility settings, and/or changing some of the in-game graphics settings.

In Windows 10 it was originally near unplayable due to very jerky scrolling, but using dxWnd wrapper with the game makes it playably smooth and overall ok, but still not as smooth as in those two Linux WINE machines.

I don't know whether this game (GOG version) would work also on Windows XP, but since I happen to have Windows XP installed on that eMachines PC, I guess I can try how it installs and plays there. I will update my findings later.

Anyway, for now it appears to me Linux WINE is surprisingly good for running old Windows games, as long as it is not a retail CD/DVD game with copy protections, I guess.
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IAmBored2: Why are there so many people like you who have no clue how computers work and thus repeat such ignorant babble about how operating systems go out of service and how everyone needs the latest operating system (specifically a WINDOWS operating system.)
It is nice to be able to run your (older) games on the same PC and OS which you are using anyway, and not having to use a separate old retrogaming PC with an old OS in it. It saves space, takes less time etc.
Post edited May 28, 2021 by timppu
So I promised to try how Icewind Dale 2 (GOG) installs and runs on real Windows XP (it is the same eMachines laptop where I play it on Linux WINE fine), and:

- It installs fine.

- It launches and runs smoothly, but there are graphical issues (see the attached picture) that don't appear on any of the other systems, even Linux WINE on the same laptop.

I don't know if those graphical problems are due to some GOG fixes which make the game more compatible with modern Windowses, but less compatible with XP.

EDIT: Why does the forum software say "Wrong file format!" if the picture is .JPG, but if I rename it to .jpeg, it is ok? Odd behavior...

EDIT2: Actually it seems to be it doesn't like capital letters in the file extension so .jpg is fine too... Heck, Windows XP Paint program added the capital .JPG!!!
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Post edited May 28, 2021 by timppu
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§pectre: They are games for old OS like XP and there is a difference between gog breaking support and games not supporting it in the first place.
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nightcraw1er.488: Are you saying that doom 3 only works on win xp? Nonsense, I have had it running on win 10 (patch 1.2 removes safedisc which win 10 thankfully no longer supports) and there is the new engine reimplementation (dhwem) that’s better to use now anyways. Against all the “it doesn’t run on win10” anti windows opionion that seems to be running through here nowadays, nothing I have tried has failed to run on win 10
I think you meant to reply to another quote. My post was about gog breaking or removing support for games that were working on an older OS.