Posted October 25, 2015
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tomimt
Optimum rat
Registered: May 2010
From Finland
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JDelekto
Handler Level 2
Registered: Apr 2013
From United States
Posted October 25, 2015
Understood, but word on the street is that Flash on the Web is being killed by Web browsers. It's all HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript now.
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Gonchi
Incorrigible
Registered: Dec 2010
From Uruguay
Posted October 25, 2015
I'll buy it if the original version is included. Otherwise, I already have it on disc and neither want or need this remaster.
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted October 25, 2015
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http://www.pcgamer.com/day-of-the-tentacle-remastered-screenshots-revealed/
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edit - incidentally, a 7 year old Flash cartoon.
Post edited October 25, 2015 by amok
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Elmofongo
It's 2L84U
Registered: Sep 2011
From Puerto Rico
Posted October 25, 2015
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Bah rotoscoping using Flash :P
This is how you do Rotoscoping in Traditional Animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3YYgEC_9HU
Post edited October 25, 2015 by Elmofongo
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted October 25, 2015
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This is how you do Rotoscoping in Traditional Animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3YYgEC_9HU
Post edited October 25, 2015 by amok
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Rixasha
Mangeon Duster
Registered: Jul 2012
From Finland
Posted October 25, 2015
Hand-drawn traditional artwork like this new remastered DOTT is what stands the test of time.
But if you like the graphics, good for you. I'm just sad because I like to see releases of the originals that I can run in scummvm or dosbox, and this remaster is likely to keep that from ever happening. Then again, I already have the original so personally I'm set, and none of this affects me greatly.
The Monkey Island special editions can at least be crafted into Ultimate Talkies, which is pretty cool. I'm led to believe that MI2 even restores iMUSE, I'm still waiting for a better sale on that so I'm not sure.
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Mr.Caine
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Registered: Apr 2012
From Lithuania
Posted October 25, 2015
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Elmofongo
It's 2L84U
Registered: Sep 2011
From Puerto Rico
Posted October 25, 2015
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Bah rotoscoping using Flash :P
This is how you do Rotoscoping in Traditional Animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3YYgEC_9HU
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/5a4ddd5e52655d11e5baf782f13c2013cca6de225d9418db4da0e3576fdc8b07_avm.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPe6BNPUmI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if4WhCzQzyU
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted October 25, 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPe6BNPUmI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if4WhCzQzyU
It is traditional cut-out animation done digitally by hand. Just because you think it is rotoscoped, only credits the craftsmanship in this film.
The animators used reference points from live action, but so do for example "traditional 2D Disney animators", animators have always done so.
Post edited October 25, 2015 by amok
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babark
Pirate Mullah
Registered: Dec 2010
From Pakistan
Posted October 25, 2015
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Even today, I can appreciate good pixel art as being good art (as opposed to just good pixel art). As a counter example, "good 3D art" from the late 90s or early 2000s, however, looks horrible today, and I couldn't really call it good art (perhaps excluding some small examples that worked within the limitations of the system they used, like Grim Fandango, rather than try to push the envelope of "realism").
It could be that I'm just biased against cartoony 2D art in video games, because the games that didn't go towards 3D moved towards hi-res 2D cartoony art, which just wasn't how I imagined the extension of pixel art when I played those games as a kid (later parts of King's Quest, Space Quest, Monkey Island, etc). I guess I just got caught up in what it could've been instead:
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/4938/609469-maniac_mansion_box_front_6570x8262.jpg
http://pre06.deviantart.net/f7aa/th/pre/i/2010/342/4/a/elaine_by_ertacaltinoz-d34f3tt.jpg
etc.
As for DoTT, I own the original, and I hear that in the new one, the PC in Ed's room won't get you to play the original game (where you can go to the PC in Ed's room to play Maniac Mansion), so I'm not sure I can support a game where such a ridiculous joke wasn't implemented.
Also, I look back now at the pixel art and see the genesis of how it is and why it is so in the remastered version, but DAMN, Hoagie's lips :D.
Post edited October 25, 2015 by babark
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stg83
Homo Ludens
Registered: Nov 2013
From Pakistan
Posted October 25, 2015
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Even today, I can appreciate good pixel art as being good art (as opposed to just good pixel art). As a counter example, "good 3D art" from the late 90s or early 2000s, however, looks horrible today, and I couldn't really call it good art (perhaps excluding some small examples that worked within the limitations of the system they used, like Grim Fandango, rather than try to push the envelope of "realism").
The art of Day of the Tentacle is really simplistic compared to Curse of Monkey Island, since it is after all more then a 20 year old game. So even the new hand-drawn HD artwork is not going to look as good as something like Curse of Monkey Island because the developers have kept it true to the source. Now I know it is all subjective but for the most part which one do you think kids of this generation will find more appealing.
DOTT Original or DOTT Remastered
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"Just like the original Day of the Tentacle, this restoration will contain the entirety of Maniac Mansion as an in-game bonus."
Post edited October 25, 2015 by stg83
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Elmofongo
It's 2L84U
Registered: Sep 2011
From Puerto Rico
Posted October 25, 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPe6BNPUmI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if4WhCzQzyU
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It is traditional cut-out animation done digitally by hand. Just because you think it is rotoscoped, only credits the craftsmanship in this film.
The animators used reference points from live action, but so do for example "traditional 2D Disney animators", animators have always done so.
Is it avaliable to stream on Netflix?
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amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted October 25, 2015
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It is traditional cut-out animation done digitally by hand. Just because you think it is rotoscoped, only credits the craftsmanship in this film.
The animators used reference points from live action, but so do for example "traditional 2D Disney animators", animators have always done so.
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/865d4dcca1aff94b0fcf2f0355b3be704a627f5d74c0491fb77e360e77db97e1_avm.jpg)
Is it avaliable to stream on Netflix?
Do see it, it is a very very good film.
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babark
Pirate Mullah
Registered: Dec 2010
From Pakistan
Posted October 25, 2015
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http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/15080.htm
http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/17131.htm
http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/12900.htm
http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/2812.htm
(Purposely choosing examples that need to be zoomed in to appreciate fully)
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As for MM in DoTT, I meant it should've been MM in DoTT original in DoTT remastered: game within a game within a game :D. Although has it been confirmed that you'd be able to swap between the original game and the remastered version's art and interface?
PS: What the hell happened to your rep?!
Post edited October 25, 2015 by babark