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Posted March 01, 2016
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Cavalary: If it won't be too hard to code or make it even nastier to work within GOG's access ban limits, MaGOG may be used for this? Since there are wishlist extension gogmixes now, there could be actual wishlist gogmixes, with either tags or set interest ratings. Tags would likely need to be formatted in a certain way and have a stricter character limit, so you won't end up with full comments from every user when browsing, would allow more freedom for users, but won't allow any ordering by MaGOG. Set interest ratings (say: highest, high, medium, low, lowest, none - MaGOG only reads the first word in the comment and ignores it if it's not one of these) would also allow the "wishlisted by" line to be sorted according to interest (only question being where to fit those with unknown rating in the bunch) and likely also make way for an option to not display those with interest below a certain level.
... And now I'm feeling awkward for making suggestions that'd just require someone else to do probably plenty of work.
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mrkgnao: I thought about it, but I'm a bit wary of even starting this, because the wishlist extensions feature has been used by exactly one person, so I consider it something of a wasted effort. I believe it is too cumbersome to maintain a wishlist in a gogmix (e.g. remember to delete games when you bought them, sorting them, etc.).
Yeah, it is tedious, and would quite clearly only be used by a small number of people... But GOG sure doesn't seem to care to add this simple option to the actual wishlist. I mean, how hard could it be to add another field, make it editable, and have the possibility to sort by it?
(MaGOG wouldn't have to care whether a game is removed from such a mix after being removed from wishlist though. Way I thought of it, it'd check a wishlist it tracks, then look for a mix with a certain name, say "[user]'s prioritized wishlist" or "[user]'s tagged wishlist" or smth of the sort, and if it exists look for the games from the wishlist that are also in the mix and read those words. If a game's in the wishlist but not the mix, goes on as before, listed as wishlisted with no additional info. If it's in the mix but not in the wishlist, it ignores it, just to prevent such issues.)
Posted March 01, 2016
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mrkgnao: I thought about it, but I'm a bit wary of even starting this, because the wishlist extensions feature has been used by exactly one person, so I consider it something of a wasted effort. I believe it is too cumbersome to maintain a wishlist in a gogmix (e.g. remember to delete games when you bought them, sorting them, etc.).
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Cavalary: Yeah, it is tedious, and would quite clearly only be used by a small number of people... But GOG sure doesn't seem to care to add this simple option to the actual wishlist. I mean, how hard could it be to add another field, make it editable, and have the possibility to sort by it?
(MaGOG wouldn't have to care whether a game is removed from such a mix after being removed from wishlist though. Way I thought of it, it'd check a wishlist it tracks, then look for a mix with a certain name, say "[user]'s prioritized wishlist" or "[user]'s tagged wishlist" or smth of the sort, and if it exists look for the games from the wishlist that are also in the mix and read those words. If a game's in the wishlist but not the mix, goes on as before, listed as wishlisted with no additional info. If it's in the mix but not in the wishlist, it ignores it, just to prevent such issues.)
I'll bear it in mind, but I believe adalia's solution is more user friendly and I prefer to see how that one pans out first.

P.S. If you think that calling a gogomix "[user]'s tagged wishlist" guarantees that it will be at a specific URL, you don't know GOG. It might end up at user_s_tagged_wishlist or at users_tagged_wishlist or possibly elsewhere, depending on who knows what. Not to mention if someone mistyped and called it "[user]'s taggged wishlist" and can now no longer edit the name or URL. As I have learned the hard way, any attempt to build a consistent framework on top of GOG requires a lot of manual exception handling.
Posted March 01, 2016
So what's the actual priority for games? If someone gets nominated or ask about it first? Because I noticed here several examples where this have no clear rule or sense behind it.
Posted March 01, 2016
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HenitoKisou: So what's the actual priority for games? If someone gets nominated or ask about it first? Because I noticed here several examples where this have no clear rule or sense behind it.
Normally yes, first nomination or request goes. But there's a limit of one game / person / month, and some people refuse, not necessarily publicly, so obviously that game doesn't get given then. Or in some cases there are requests by people who're not exactly active, so those get denied or delayed. And you can have pending nominations, an active community member getting nominated for a game after having already gotten one that month, so if nobody who didn't get one gets it by the end of the month it can go to that person at the start of the next.
Posted March 01, 2016
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HenitoKisou: So what's the actual priority for games? If someone gets nominated or ask about it first? Because I noticed here several examples where this have no clear rule or sense behind it.
It's not nomination vs directly asking, nor is one way favoured over the other. So long as all applying to the Community GA rules are followed, a game will be given to the first request, be it a direct one or a nomination.
Nominations come with the caveat that they may be declined, and non-active users may be turned down until they become more involved in the community, but otherwise it's a FIFO system.
Posted March 01, 2016
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Cavalary: If it won't be too hard to code or make it even nastier to work within GOG's access ban limits, MaGOG may be used for this? Since there are wishlist extension gogmixes now, there could be actual wishlist gogmixes, with either tags or set interest ratings. Tags would likely need to be formatted in a certain way and have a stricter character limit, so you won't end up with full comments from every user when browsing, would allow more freedom for users, but won't allow any ordering by MaGOG. Set interest ratings (say: highest, high, medium, low, lowest, none - MaGOG only reads the first word in the comment and ignores it if it's not one of these) would also allow the "wishlisted by" line to be sorted according to interest (only question being where to fit those with unknown rating in the bunch) and likely also make way for an option to not display those with interest below a certain level.
... And now I'm feeling awkward for making suggestions that'd just require someone else to do probably plenty of work.
Nah, adding Gogmixes just complicates things. I was just thinking of doing the same as I do with manual sort, create a dictionary (or an approximation as JS doesn't have the real thing) with the ids from your wishlist as keys. Then just store a comment or tag with each game when you wanted.

The extra bit is then sending this data back to my server so it can be loaded by others when they view your wishlist too. But that just requires a username to be sent to the server and then checked against the held data and the tags returned if they exist.
Changed usernames might be an issue, but there's probably a way around that.
I probably wouldn't allow sorting by it as that would be more complicated to implement, but it would be a start.
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HenitoKisou: So what's the actual priority for games? If someone gets nominated or ask about it first? Because I noticed here several examples where this have no clear rule or sense behind it.
I don't know what examples you are talking about since it is always the first one to ask or get nominated gets the game. There is no preference of one over the other since I really like the nomination system but I don't need more fake nominations (meaning someone ask someone else before in chat about getting a nomination).

And since we are talking about how this thing works... well while it is quite nice for the asking person if their request gets supported by other people, that has no actual influence on granting the request ;-)
Posted March 01, 2016
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Cavalary: If it won't be too hard to code or make it even nastier to work within GOG's access ban limits, MaGOG may be used for this? Since there are wishlist extension gogmixes now, there could be actual wishlist gogmixes, with either tags or set interest ratings. Tags would likely need to be formatted in a certain way and have a stricter character limit, so you won't end up with full comments from every user when browsing, would allow more freedom for users, but won't allow any ordering by MaGOG. Set interest ratings (say: highest, high, medium, low, lowest, none - MaGOG only reads the first word in the comment and ignores it if it's not one of these) would also allow the "wishlisted by" line to be sorted according to interest (only question being where to fit those with unknown rating in the bunch) and likely also make way for an option to not display those with interest below a certain level.
... And now I'm feeling awkward for making suggestions that'd just require someone else to do probably plenty of work.
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adaliabooks: Nah, adding Gogmixes just complicates things. I was just thinking of doing the same as I do with manual sort, create a dictionary (or an approximation as JS doesn't have the real thing) with the ids from your wishlist as keys. Then just store a comment or tag with each game when you wanted.

The extra bit is then sending this data back to my server so it can be loaded by others when they view your wishlist too. But that just requires a username to be sent to the server and then checked against the held data and the tags returned if they exist.
Changed usernames might be an issue, but there's probably a way around that.
I probably wouldn't allow sorting by it as that would be more complicated to implement, but it would be a start.
Good plan.
Please consider having a way for MaGog to obtain the data directly from your server for all users in bulk to allow her to display it too.
Were you thinking of fixed tags to select from (e.g. high, medium, low) or also allowing free text? I recommend the former (e.g. implemented as a drop-down menu).
Posted March 01, 2016
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mrkgnao: Good plan.
Please consider having a way for MaGog to obtain the data directly from your server for all users in bulk to allow her to display it too.
Were you thinking of fixed tags to select from (e.g. high, medium, low) or also allowing free text? I recommend the former (e.g. implemented as a drop-down menu).
Shouldn't be a problem, I can make a url that would just dump the whole lot as JSON then you could do with it what you want in MaGog.
Both, but fixed tags would definitely be easier as I'd need to check free text for script injections and length.. so thinking about it probably just a selection of tags in a dropdown.
Posted March 01, 2016
Thanks guys for Bioforge, I hope that it's a good old game like it is said to be. :)
Post edited March 01, 2016 by Klumpen0815
Posted March 01, 2016
Big thanks to BenKii, moonshineshadow, Koalaman108 for Dustforce DX and the wonderful GOG community for this awesome giveaway.
Post edited March 01, 2016 by PainOfSalvation
Posted March 01, 2016
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HypersomniacLive: Dang, came to nominate trentonlf for Codename Panzers: Phase One & Two, but I see that ElTerprise was already nominated for them.
Perhaps they could get one phase each? ;-)
Well there is a reason why these two games are mentioned as one on the list, since it is the wish of the donor to give them away together ;-)
Posted March 01, 2016
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BenKii: Happy March Everyone! :)

Nominations for the new month:

<span class="bold">ElTerprise</span> for Codename Panzers: Phase 1 & 2

Wishlist results courtesy of MaGog. ;)
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trentonlf: Thank you for thinking of me, but EIT is an excellent candidate to receive the game ;)
Thank you - but i already got a game last month wasn't able to play it yet - wouldn't be fair imho to get another one which might be unplayed for some time.

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trentonlf: Thank you for thinking of me, but EIT is an excellent candidate to receive the game ;)
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HypersomniacLive: He is indeed, and so are you. :-)
^this.

I second the nomination of trentonlf for Codename Panzers: Phase 1 & 2!
Post edited March 01, 2016 by ElTerprise
Posted March 01, 2016
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moonshineshadow: Well there is a reason why these two games are mentioned as one on the list, since it is the wish of the donor to give them away together ;-)
I know, was just making a play on the phase element. ;-)
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moonshineshadow: Well there is a reason why these two games are mentioned as one on the list, since it is the wish of the donor to give them away together ;-)
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HypersomniacLive: I know, was just making a play on the phase element. ;-)
Thank you for the nomination, I appreciate it and you very much!


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ElTerprise: !
Thank you for the nomination too!


Also want to thank Moon for her tireless effort in keeping this giveaway running, she deserves lots of accolades! Also a big thank you to dampsquib for donating the games!!
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