Posted May 11, 2017
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adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted May 11, 2017
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TerriblePurpose
Kwisatz Haderach
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted May 11, 2017
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adaliabooks
"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?"
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted May 11, 2017
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I also don't think there is any implication in having opt in as default. It is very literally appealing to the lowest common denominator, the people who will install things without reading anything the installer says and ticking or unticking any boxes. I don't think it's strictly necessary but I can see why they would do it.
Here's an example. I sell pizza for a living. I have a van, with the word Pizza literally written all over it. There are at least two separate menus listing the pizzas we sell. We get asked at least once a week what we sell. We get asked at least once a week whether we sell chips. I always refrain from screaming at them that if we sold chips it would be on the f*cking menu. I wish I didn't have to.
People are stupid. Just because the people who use this forum are by and large tech savy computer nerds doesn't mean that we are at all representative of Gog's customer base any more.
Gog are doing what they need to do to sell more games, which is make the process of getting what you want as easy as possible for as many people as possible.
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zeogold
The Puzzlemaster
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted May 11, 2017
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adamhm
GOG for Linux
Registered: May 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted May 11, 2017
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I also don't think there is any implication in having opt in as default. It is very literally appealing to the lowest common denominator, the people who will install things without reading anything the installer says and ticking or unticking any boxes. I don't think it's strictly necessary but I can see why they would do it.
It's not just opt-out; it's opt-out every time you use one of the new installers, and there's no opt-out of actually downloading the Galaxy installer unless you opt-out of using GOG altogether because it's going to be bundled with the game installer. Which means wasted bandwidth and wasted disk space. There are better ways that GOG can do this, ways that respect all of their users and don't unnecessarily inconvenience them, but it's looking like GOG doesn't care.
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P1na
Wandering fruit
Registered: Apr 2012
From Spain
Posted May 11, 2017
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TerriblePurpose
Kwisatz Haderach
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted May 11, 2017
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I'll agree to disagree on this point. I feel this particular practice to be extremely shady, underhanded, and anti-consumer in general. And I personally think if GOG is willing to stoop to this, then they'll stoop further (yeah, I realize this is just a 'slippery slope' argument, but it's the way I feel. And I'm not generally given to reactive outbursts or conspiracy theories. In fact, I generally tend to give GOG the benefit of the doubt and see how things play out before complaining).
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F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland
Posted May 11, 2017
I have no idea how you can possibly call that DRM. And the "necessary for the sake of being necessary" part is not true either. There are very good reasons why they may want to restrict access to their downloads in this manner. It could help improve account security, it reduces GOG's website's traffic (which should be particularly meaningful during sales when people use the GOG website en masse both to buy and download their newly-bought games) and there's probably a number of other reasons that software engineers might list.
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Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted May 11, 2017
I have no idea how you can see it as anything else. But I am way to tired of all this to have this discussion. At this point anyone who wants it can choke on their totally not DRM clients for all I care.
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timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted May 11, 2017
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For me it goes like this:
1. If an online client is required only for downloading the game (installers) = not DRM.
2. If an online client is required also for installing and/or playing the game you have downloaded = yes DRM.
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GOG Agent
Registered: May 2013
From United States
Posted May 11, 2017
Actually fables said as far as she knows, they are planning to save the setting so if you stay on the same PC you may only have to uncheck it once.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/offline_installers_with_an_option_to_install_gog_galaxy/post422/?staff=yes
P1na: I can't talk about everyone, but personally, I would be OK with that. All I want from GOG are clean offline installers, all the rest is fluff. Sometimes welcome fluff, sometimes unwanted fluff, but it's all irrelevant so long as my installers stay safe on my atomic bunker's HD. If you put region locks or regional pricing, I may have trouble buying the game; but once I do buy it I have my offline installer and I'm good. If the direct downloads were hidden were the downloader's are now, I'm still fine, because once I do download the installers I'm ok. But now that they start fucking with the installers themselves, they've touched my bottom line. I actually think that is an acceptable solution too, but this is GOG... next the argument will be they moved/hid them to faze them out soon like the downloader.
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throgh
Freemind & Alien
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From Other
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adamhm
GOG for Linux
Registered: May 2009
From United Kingdom
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GOG Agent
Registered: May 2013
From United States
Posted May 11, 2017