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I know Zoom Platform is a very touchy subject around here.

But this issue needs to be discussed.

It seems that Zoom Platform is now poaching GOG games?

For example, the game "A Vampyre Story" used to be listed on GOG, but then it became delisted, and now it is listed as a "Zoom Platform exclusive."

So this seems to be at least one example of Zoom Platform having poached a GOG game.

Are there more too?

This situation is very bad for consumers and an example of things getting way out of hand in regards to Zoom Platform's hatred of GOG and/or vice versa.

What do you think about the concept of Zoom Platform poaching GOG games?
Post edited March 07, 2023 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
The Zoom Platform is a small irrelevant store. There was a Postal game removed from Steam and everyone celebrated that the game isn't available anymore. Guess where you still can buy this Postal game. Nobody took them serious about it. LOL.
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foad01: The Zoom Platform is a small irrelevant store.
Well, it's becoming quite relevant in that it is now apparently causing GOG games to be removed from GOG, so that they can be re-released as ZP exclusives.

That is very relevant to GOG customers who were wanting to buy the game(s) on GOG, but now cannot do so, because it's/they've been poached off of GOG.
Post edited March 07, 2023 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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foad01: The Zoom Platform is a small irrelevant store.
Some people say the same about GOG. And no, i don't agree with this.

Personally, i thiks it's great that are other DRM-free store, with games that are not here anymore, like Duke Nukem.
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M3troid: Personally, i thiks it's great that are other DRM-free store, with games that are not here anymore, like Duke Nukem.
Sure, but that is a different matter entirely, than the matter I'm talking about in the OP.

Duke Nukem is not an example of games being deliberately poached off of GOG.
Post edited March 07, 2023 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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foad01: The Zoom Platform is a small irrelevant store.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Well, it's becoming quite relevant in that it is now apparently causing GOG games to be removed from GOG, so that they can be re-released as ZP exclusives.
Are we just making things up now? You can say this about Ziggurat, removing all there games from ZOOM and releasing them on GOG.

Edit: EA saying they see no point releasing games on Zoom when their is GOG. Not like EA has been releasing much on GOG. lol
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foad01: The Zoom Platform is a small irrelevant store.
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M3troid: Some people say the same about GOG. And no, i don't agree with this.

Personally, i thiks it's great that are other DRM-free store, with games that are not here anymore, like Duke Nukem.
I agree, even if I dislike how childish ZOOM acts about things.
Post edited March 07, 2023 by Syphon72
I seriously doubt that any store would use A Vampyre Story as part of an exclusivity strategy. There's not a single aspect of it that makes any sense.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Well, it's becoming quite relevant in that it is now apparently causing GOG games to be removed from GOG, so that they can be re-released as ZP exclusives.
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Syphon72: Are we just making things up now? You can say this about Ziggurat, removing all there games from ZOOM and releasing them on GOG.

Edit: EA saying they see no point releasing games on Zoom when their is GOG. Not like EA has been releasing much on GOG. lol
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M3troid: Some people say the same about GOG. And no, i don't agree with this.

Personally, i thiks it's great that are other DRM-free store, with games that are not here anymore, like Duke Nukem.
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Syphon72: I agree, even if I dislike how childish ZOOM acts about things.
You mean like twatter and fakebook? LOL
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foad01: The Zoom Platform is a small irrelevant store.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Well, it's becoming quite relevant in that it is now apparently causing GOG games to be removed from GOG, so that they can be re-released as ZP exclusives.

That is very relevant to GOG customers who were wanting to buy the game(s) on GOG, but now cannot do so, because it's/they've been poached off of GOG.
ZP also lost several licences of games that are sold here. A Boy and His Blob, Advent Rising, Alien Trilogy, BloodRayne, BloodRayne 2, BloodRayne: Betrayal and Killing Time. Throwback Entertainment and Ziggurat Interactive seem to have problems to have their games on ZP.

And you can be sure about that people from ZP's discord channel will use these games as examples where GOG "poached" ZP games. The publishers of these games simply removed their games there.
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foad01: The Zoom Platform is a small irrelevant store.
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M3troid: Some people say the same about GOG. And no, i don't agree with this.

Personally, i thiks it's great that are other DRM-free store, with games that are not here anymore, like Duke Nukem.
Yes, there is absolutely nothing wrong of having other DRM-free stores.

There is for example Fireflower Games. They don't have people from their social media channels hanging around here and spamming the news threads. You also don't have people there who are simply unprofessional in running their store. And that is most likely the reason why ZP lost the licences of the games I mentioned above.
Post edited March 07, 2023 by foad01
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Syphon72: Are we just making things up now? You can say this about Ziggurat, removing all there games from ZOOM and releasing them on GOG.

Edit: EA saying they see no point releasing games on Zoom when their is GOG. Not like EA has been releasing much on GOG. lol

I agree, even if I dislike how childish ZOOM acts about things.
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KeoniBoy: You mean like twatter and fakebook? LOL
Idk know about that much. I was talking about ZOOM being upset at GOG releasing Alekhine's Gun or other games they had first. There is a reason Alekhine's Gun ZP store page has ZOOM Platform is the home of the original Alekhine's Gun DRM-Free release! (May 28th 2021). Also, them accusing GOG of undercutting them because GOG sold games they had first on sale for a limited time. lol
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KeoniBoy: You mean like twatter and fakebook? LOL
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Syphon72: Idk know about that much. I was talking about ZOOM being upset at GOG releasing Alekhine's Gun or other games they had first. There is a reason Alekhine's Gun ZP store page has ZOOM Platform is the home of the original Alekhine's Gun DRM-Free release! (May 28th 2021). Also, them accusing GOG of undercutting them because GOG sold games they had first on sale for a limited time. lol
Zoom are typical crybullies. Waa-Waa-Waa! Lame, pathetic, self-loathing posers.
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Syphon72: Are we just making things up now?
No. On the contrary, I cited a specific, concrete example in the OP. Making things up would require that example to be delusional and not real --- but yet it is real, a fact, and easy to verify as such.

People might not care much now because it's "just" A Vampyre Story (and that's assuming it's the only one so far...but maybe it isn't...I just stumbled up this occurrence by happenstance and I am no expert in this matter, but there might be other examples in addition to that one)...but what about when bigger and more popular games also start to get poached off of GOG?

That's what's likely to happen if this phenomenon gets ignored or downplayed right now, in it's initial stages whilst it's first starting to happen, rather than it creating a backlash, as it should do, due to this practice of poaching games being very bad for consumers.

How would GOG customers feel, if, for example, ZP poached HOMM 3 off of GOG one day? Would that be fine and dandy too?
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Chacranajxy: I seriously doubt that any store would use A Vampyre Story as part of an exclusivity strategy. There's not a single aspect of it that makes any sense.
But yet, ZP is literally doing exactly that on their twitter and on their store page for A Vampyre Story. It being a ZP exclusive is their main selling point for that game, and they are pushing that selling point as hard as they possibly can.

And it does make sense insomuch as maybe it is the one of best exclusives that ZP can get at this time, given their small size and relatively low status in the market.

So whilst it's not a monumental acquisition, it is still something. And it's also the start of a horrible, anti-consumer trend of poaching games (or maybe not the start, but at least one of the initial examples of it).
Post edited March 07, 2023 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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foad01: There was a Postal game removed from Steam and everyone celebrated that the game isn't available anymore.
What are you talking about? The Postal games are still on Steam.
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foad01: ZP also lost several licences of games that are sold here. A Boy and His Blob, Advent Rising, Alien Trilogy, BloodRayne, BloodRayne 2, BloodRayne: Betrayal and Killing Time. Throwback Entertainment and Ziggurat Interactive seem to have problems to have their games on ZP.

And you can be sure about that people from ZP's discord channel will use these games as examples where GOG "poached" ZP games. The publishers of these games simply removed their games there.
I have a long story on another matter relevant to the BloodRayne series there, but the only thing that irked me about ZP was the proprietary installer. There wasn't anything else wrong with what I saw thus far. I have made it work for my Windows XP machine in some capacity, but my main issues weren't for ZP itself in that regard. I did notice they were sorta delisted from their store, but they're still in my library FWIW.
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Syphon72: Are we just making things up now?
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: No. On the contrary, I cited a specific, concrete example in the OP. Making things up would require that example to be delusional and not real --- but yet it is real, a fact, and easy to verify as such.

People might not care much now because it's "just" A Vampyre Story (and that's assuming it's the only one so far...but maybe it isn't...I just stumbled up this occurrence by happenstance and I am no expert in this matter, but there might be other examples in addition to that one)...but what about when bigger and more popular games also start to get poached off of GOG?

That's what's likely to happen if this phenomenon gets ignored or downplayed right now, in it's initial stages whilst it's first starting to happen, rather than it creating a backlash, as it should do, due to this practice of poaching games being very bad for consumers.
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Chacranajxy: I seriously doubt that any store would use A Vampyre Story as part of an exclusivity strategy. There's not a single aspect of it that makes any sense.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: But yet, ZP Is literally doing that on their twitter and on their store page for A Vampyre Story. It being a ZP exclusive is their main sellong point for that game, and they are pushing that selling point as hard as they can.

And it does make sense insomuch as maybe it is the one of best exclusives that ZP can get at this time. So whilst it's a monumental acquisition, it is still something. And it's also the start of a horrible trend of poaching games (or maybe not the start, but at least one of the initial examples of it).
Your amusing ZOOM has the ability to stop games from being sold on GOG. I guess ZOOM is poaching games from Steam as well. Since Original GRID is being sold on ZOOM but not Steam. It feels like you are making issues out of nothing.
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foad01: There was a Postal game removed from Steam and everyone celebrated that the game isn't available anymore.
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TurdFerguson87: What are you talking about? The Postal games are still on Steam.
You just did exactly what other people also did before. Just one Postal game was removed. Read this article:
https://www.pcgamer.com/postal-3-has-been-taken-off-sale-after-11-years-and-postals-original-devs-are-thrilled/

And note:
"Update: This article has been amended to clarify that only the Steam version of Postal 3 has been removed from sale. DRM-free versions can still be bought elsewhere."