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Posted June 23, 2014
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StingingVelvet: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-06-20-sniper-elite-3-has-a-10gb-day-one-patch-on-xbox-one

Like Steam, the Xbox One is is now seeing games on disc that are basically a shell, waiting for a huge download to be truly finished. At least they function without internet, true, but when they are obviously so incomplete without the patch it really makes one wonder why the console companies even bothered debating the whole DRM thing. These machines, like Steam, are clearly meant to be online all the time, updating your games consistently.

This generation is going to be interesting to watch unfold. Lots of games seem to be opting-in to always online, and with these kinds of patches making disc versions more and more irrelevant, who knows how the numbers will pan out. Sorry if you have a bandwidth cap!
since consoles got internet connection, they have gone the same way as pc releases - ship fast, ship soon and patch later.

In the "good old days" you could take that disc to your friends place and play happily on his machine, but that has apparently changed since then.

No doubt consoles would ditch the physical product and rather sell everything electronically as it would give them more profit. electronic distribution makes sense really, physical disc + day1 10gb patches not...
Posted June 23, 2014
EA is the worst when it comes to this , they usually lump all the dlc content they release into patches as well :X to ensure everyone has the same content when they play online and just purchase it unlock it .

i got need for speed most wanted 2012 on ps3 and was shocked to see the patch was 2gb+ , when i searched online i found out the truth.

downloading a game patch on ps3 on a slow internet with no resume function is a nightmare.
Posted June 23, 2014
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iippo: No doubt consoles would ditch the physical product and rather sell everything electronically as it would give them more profit. electronic distribution makes sense really, physical disc + day1 10gb patches not...
Yes, companies want it and find ways to push it. Just look at the "digital HD before DVD and Bluray!" campaign the movie studios are running constantly now, making you wait to own the movie if you want a disc.

I'm sure as this console generation goes on they will make digital purchases seem better and disc versions pointless because of updates. That's what happened on PC, digital just made more and more sense and retail became more and more pointless until now the physical box market barely exists outside of Blizzard games.
Posted June 23, 2014
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StingingVelvet: That's what happened on PC, digital just made more and more sense and retail became more and more pointless until now the physical box market barely exists outside of Blizzard games.
there sure arent many companies besides blizzard that can sort of "live in their own bubble" - but even blizzards makes you register atleast the newest games on battle net i think.
Posted June 23, 2014
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nightrunner227: Well congratulations on your supposedly "bad" internet. The only internet I can get at home other than dial up is some bullshit plan which takes 9 hours minimum to download 1gb and which gets throttled if you're connected for more than 30 minutes at a time. If games went all digital, I'd have to trek somewhere else every time I wanted to get/install a game.
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hummer010: Xplornet / Hughesnet by chance? I suffered through three years of abysmal Xplornet internet service. Now I have a far better fixed-wireless option. I just wish my bandwidth cap was as bad as Australia. I'm limited to 70GB a month, which isn't too bad, but it can be a problem. I generally get speeds between 1Mb and 3Mb, which isn't great, but considering I'm in the middle of no-where, and compared to Xplornet, isn't too bad either.
Actually, not even Hughesnet is willing to provide service here. The only non-dialup option we have is internet provided by our television service provider (dishnet). They claim we get 10mbps download speeds, but I've never seen more than 200kbps. Typically it's more like 15kbps.

As it is, I can only download games on my pc when I'm at school or when I go to McDonald's. And nobody wants to sit at McDonald's for 2 hours downloading a game.
Posted June 23, 2014
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iippo: there sure arent many companies besides blizzard that can sort of "live in their own bubble" - but even blizzards makes you register atleast the newest games on battle net i think.
Yeah, I just meant Blizzard games are still actually sold in large quantities in boxes. Not many other PC games are.
Posted June 23, 2014
10 GB patch is the new online DRM!
Posted June 23, 2014
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hummer010: Xplornet / Hughesnet by chance? I suffered through three years of abysmal Xplornet internet service. Now I have a far better fixed-wireless option. I just wish my bandwidth cap was as bad as Australia. I'm limited to 70GB a month, which isn't too bad, but it can be a problem. I generally get speeds between 1Mb and 3Mb, which isn't great, but considering I'm in the middle of no-where, and compared to Xplornet, isn't too bad either.
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nightrunner227: Actually, not even Hughesnet is willing to provide service here. The only non-dialup option we have is internet provided by our television service provider (dishnet). They claim we get 10mbps download speeds, but I've never seen more than 200kbps. Typically it's more like 15kbps.

As it is, I can only download games on my pc when I'm at school or when I go to McDonald's. And nobody wants to sit at McDonald's for 2 hours downloading a game.
Ditto for me. I do most of my downloading at work. We've got a Gigabit fibre connection there, so it works out alright. Doesn't work for a console though. It would look bad if I was setting my XBox up in my office.
Posted June 25, 2014
I downlode mst att home. no problem.
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