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Many people takes for granted that we will lose Fallout games from GOG catalog at the end of this year, but as much as I researched about any real statement from Bethesda about it I didn't find none... but I wonder if someone knows why ID Software doesn't like GOG at all and doesn't let any of their games be sold here?
Because they want control. Steam gives them that control. GOG, not so much.
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Grargar: Because they want control. Steam gives them that control. GOG, not so much.
Granted there are new owners but ID Software has released several public domain source codes and they were an early leader in empowering users to modify their content. The idea the ID Software, and it's handlers, now just prefer DRM enforced product control may be valid now but it's not necessarily consistent with the history of the company. One could even argue that ID Software was a major player in precursory events leading to the DRM free movement with loosened restrictions on earlier benchmark games (like Doom).

It seems like Doom I and II have totally been passed around to every viable outlet known to man (iPhone, diskette, freebies on Xbox, etc, etc) except GOG.
Post edited December 11, 2013 by undeadcow
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Grargar: Because they want control. Steam gives them that control. GOG, not so much.
Which is in some ways pretty funny, because most of the id games I've seen on Steam are DOS titles one can pirate easy as hell if they wanted to. I'm sure if you go to piratebay you'll find all the Doom titles ready to go.
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undeadcow: It seems like Doom I and II have totally been passed around to every viable outlet known to man (iPhone, diskette, freebies on Xbox, etc, etc) except GOG.
I just want them here because they're so important. :)
Post edited December 11, 2013 by tfishell
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undeadcow: Granted there are new owners but ID Software has released several public domain source codes and they were an early leader in empowering users to modify their content. The idea the ID Software, and it's handlers, now just prefer DRM enforced product control may be valid now but it's not necessarily consistent with the history of the company. One could even argue that ID Software was a major player in precursory events leading to the DRM free movement with loosened restrictions on earlier benchmark games (like Doom).

It seems like Doom I and II have totally been passed around to every viable outlet known to man (iPhone, diskette, freebies on Xbox, etc, etc) except GOG.
The past is irrelevant. Now that Id answers to Zenimax, there is nothing they can do. A while ago, Doom 3 BFG Edition was released, and despite none of the games included previously requiring online activation, they now do.
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tfishell: Which is in some ways pretty funny, because most of the id games I've seen on Steam are DOS titles one can pirate easy as hell if they wanted to. I'm sure if you go to piratebay you'll find all the Doom titles ready to go.
Every game can be pirated easily nowadays. All except constantly online games. As for Doom, you can even play it online as a browser game. Still, all these are quite illegal and I find myself quite surprised that Zenimax hasn't started sending cease and desist letters left and right.
Post edited December 11, 2013 by Grargar
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Grargar: Because they want control. Steam gives them that control. GOG, not so much.
Control? DOS Doom games are effectively DRM Free on Steam.

Edit: I see tfishell ninjaed me by almost an hour
Post edited December 11, 2013 by kalirion
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kalirion: Control? DOS Doom games are effectively DRM Free on Steam.

Edit: I see tfishell ninjaed me by almost an hour
Effectively says nothing to me. Even Gamersgate mentions the need of a Steamworks account, which I find absolutely hilarious for a 20 years old game. What's even more aggravating, is that Id Software no longer sells Doom on their website. Oh yes, they were very expensive, but there was the choice. Now? Steam and only Steam. Just like Zenimax likes.
ZeniMax are peculiar. It's a pity no anthropologist has researched them.
Actually Doom isnt sale anywhere at all at the moment? youd think hitting twenties was good enough reason to give out say, 20M free Doom keys or atleast 80% off sale :D
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ElPrimordial: Many people takes for granted that we will lose Fallout games from GOG catalog at the end of this year, but as much as I researched about any real statement from Bethesda about it I didn't find none... but I wonder if someone knows why ID Software doesn't like GOG at all and doesn't let any of their games be sold here?
Don't worry . It will be released on GOG in 2033 .
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iippo: Actually Doom isnt sale anywhere at all at the moment? youd think hitting twenties was good enough reason to give out say, 20M free Doom keys or atleast 80% off sale :D
It's sad how shitty the games industry is these days - they totally don't give a crap about their past. Even gaming news sites don't give a toss and only care about modern games which is a crying shame. Considering the massive impact Doom had on games industry, it's face palmingly painful to see how little attention it gets.
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Red_Avatar: It's sad how shitty the games industry is these days - they totally don't give a crap about their past. Even gaming news sites don't give a toss and only care about modern games which is a crying shame. Considering the massive impact Doom had on games industry, it's face palmingly painful to see how little attention it gets.
Agreed. Well, let's hope that after several years of wasting the license it will become so worthless to Bethesda that they will gladly sell it to a company that knows how to use it (starting with a GOG release).