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Posted June 11, 2011
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GameRager: Fact: You're assuming that Gog has been nice to us up until now but that now that EA's on board they will or have already become tainted, and that they are being dishonest/rude to us by not answering you with specific answers.....even if they can't legally.
Where did I say that? I'm pretty sure I said they probably have a good reason, but whether or not they do doesn't really change what the effect is to us, people interested in buying these games.
Fact: They've replied to us, and the reply was a good one...but not one you like personally because they aren't up to your specifications for an "answer". So you feel justified in arguing here instead of through PM to gog/email to EA/etc.....or other reasonable, non attention getting channels.
The answer EngimaticT gave was vague, which is what I said. It doesn't provide key information. Do they have a good reason? Maybe. Given their track record? Probably. Doesn't change that it is vague, and vagueness is scary. And saying so in a quiet and private way doesn't bring the issue to the attention of other users, or to anyone trying to gauge community response as a whole. The forums are a great deal more effective as a medium for this.
P.S. By advocating a boycott after years of wanting EA to come to gog over such petty things you are basically putting the proverbial foot in your own mouth. Gog has given an answer, and while you haven't outright said it in your mind you feel betrayed by gog and want to lash out......if only this were worth lashing out for.
Saying I feel "betrayed" is, at best, an assumption on your part. I'm not meaning any harm to GOG, or even to EA. GOG is a great site that I generally love to make purchases from, and EA's back catalog is worth the best treatment they can offer. I have no gripe for EA as a whole, but their current output on GOG warrants a consumer response. Should it be more level-headed than it has generally been? Sure. Should it be confined to one thread, rather than spread across three? Probably! Should it be an idea that needs to be shut down completely and kept as quiet as possible? I don't believe so.
Posted June 11, 2011
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GameRager: Fact: You're assuming that Gog has been nice to us up until now but that now that EA's on board they will or have already become tainted, and that they are being dishonest/rude to us by not answering you with specific answers.....even if they can't legally.
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RatherDashing: Where did I say that? I'm pretty sure I said they probably have a good reason, but whether or not they do doesn't really change what the effect is to us, people interested in buying these games.
Fact: They've replied to us, and the reply was a good one...but not one you like personally because they aren't up to your specifications for an "answer". So you feel justified in arguing here instead of through PM to gog/email to EA/etc.....or other reasonable, non attention getting channels.
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RatherDashing: The answer EngimaticT gave was vague, which is what I said. It doesn't provide key information. Do they have a good reason? Maybe. Given their track record? Probably. Doesn't change that it is vague, and vagueness is scary. And saying so in a quiet and private way doesn't bring the issue to the attention of other users, or to anyone trying to gauge community response as a whole. The forums are a great deal more effective as a medium for this.
P.S. By advocating a boycott after years of wanting EA to come to gog over such petty things you are basically putting the proverbial foot in your own mouth. Gog has given an answer, and while you haven't outright said it in your mind you feel betrayed by gog and want to lash out......if only this were worth lashing out for.
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RatherDashing: Saying I feel "betrayed" is, at best, an assumption on your part. I'm not meaning any harm to GOG, or even to EA. GOG is a great site that I generally love to make purchases from, and EA's back catalog is worth the best treatment they can offer. I have no gripe for EA as a whole, but their current output on GOG warrants a consumer response. Should it be more level-headed than it has generally been? Sure. Should it be confined to one thread, rather than spread across three? Probably! Should it be an idea that needs to be shut down completely and kept as quiet as possible? I don't believe so.
i think it was a smart thing to do from ea i think they saw how populair retro gaming is still in its better then that they let those abandonware sites distube those games for free. Im glad that i can own games now from the old ea that i always wanted to play when i was a kid where you needed a lot of computer knowledge to get those games running. Remember ems memory conflict?
Posted June 11, 2011
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RatherDashing: A boycott on all of EA's games is reasonable.
1) It's not. You are harming GOG not EA.

2) The reasonable attitude is to buy the EA games that don't have expansions. That sends the message to EA that you will buy their games if it meets your standards.

Calling for a Boycott on all EA games because some are missing features is the single most dumbest thing I have ever read on the GOG forums and believe me I have seen some really dumb shit.
Posted June 11, 2011
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RatherDashing: Where did I say that? I'm pretty sure I said they probably have a good reason, but whether or not they do doesn't really change what the effect is to us, people interested in buying these games.

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The answer EngimaticT gave was vague, which is what I said. It doesn't provide key information. Do they have a good reason? Maybe. Given their track record? Probably. Doesn't change that it is vague, and vagueness is scary. And saying so in a quiet and private way doesn't bring the issue to the attention of other users, or to anyone trying to gauge community response as a whole. The forums are a great deal more effective as a medium for this.
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Saying I feel "betrayed" is, at best, an assumption on your part. I'm not meaning any harm to GOG, or even to EA. GOG is a great site that I generally love to make purchases from, and EA's back catalog is worth the best treatment they can offer. I have no gripe for EA as a whole, but their current output on GOG warrants a consumer response. Should it be more level-headed than it has generally been? Sure. Should it be confined to one thread, rather than spread across three? Probably! Should it be an idea that needs to be shut down completely and kept as quiet as possible? I don't believe so.
(Sorry about numbers it helps me think straight)

1. Vagueness is scary? That statement reeks of paranoia and suspicion...it's like you're saying "Ok Gog gave us an answer and all...still don't trust it or them though."

Life is full of risk....sure you can mitigate some with necessary caution but being too cautious or getting worked up over things not worth getting worked up over is counterproductive.

As for bringing it to the attention of others...suffice it to say it's probably on everyone's mind now...so any further "clarification" now is for only one purpose....attention seeking, or you're partially obsessive compulsive on the issue. And as for the methods I listed, well they may be quiet and private but they'd get more answers * stuff done for your peace of mind than repeating here on the board.

2. Thing is it should be shut down now as it has been said....to death. I never said shut it down when it started, but I am doing it now....there's a big difference between the two.


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hercufles: i think it was a smart thing to do from ea i think they saw how populair retro gaming is still in its better then that they let those abandonware sites distube those games for free. Im glad that i can own games now from the old ea that i always wanted to play when i was a kid where you needed a lot of computer knowledge to get those games running. Remember ems memory conflict?
Yep. I also remember making boot disks to clear out more of the base 640k of ram to run some game's required drivers and such.
Post edited June 11, 2011 by GameRager
Posted June 11, 2011
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RatherDashing: Where did I say that? I'm pretty sure I said they probably have a good reason, but whether or not they do doesn't really change what the effect is to us, people interested in buying these games.

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The answer EngimaticT gave was vague, which is what I said. It doesn't provide key information. Do they have a good reason? Maybe. Given their track record? Probably. Doesn't change that it is vague, and vagueness is scary. And saying so in a quiet and private way doesn't bring the issue to the attention of other users, or to anyone trying to gauge community response as a whole. The forums are a great deal more effective as a medium for this.
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Saying I feel "betrayed" is, at best, an assumption on your part. I'm not meaning any harm to GOG, or even to EA. GOG is a great site that I generally love to make purchases from, and EA's back catalog is worth the best treatment they can offer. I have no gripe for EA as a whole, but their current output on GOG warrants a consumer response. Should it be more level-headed than it has generally been? Sure. Should it be confined to one thread, rather than spread across three? Probably! Should it be an idea that needs to be shut down completely and kept as quiet as possible? I don't believe so.
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GameRager: (Sorry about numbers it helps me think straight)

1. You didn't say it, I said assume

2. Vagueness is scary? That statement reeks of paranoia and suspicion...it's like you're saying "Ok Gog gave us an answer and all...still don't trust it or them though."

Life is full of risk....sure you can mitigate some with necessary caution but being too cautious or getting worked up over things not worth getting worked up over is counterproductive.

As for bringing it to the attention of others...suffice it to say it's probably on everyone's mind now...so any further "clarification" now is for only one purpose....attention seeking. And as for the methods I listed, well they may be quiet and private but they'd get more answers * stuff done for your peace of mind than repeating here on the board.

3. Thing is it should be shut down now as it has been said....to death. I never said shut it down when it started, but I am doing it now....there's a big difference between the two.


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hercufles: i think it was a smart thing to do from ea i think they saw how populair retro gaming is still in its better then that they let those abandonware sites distube those games for free. Im glad that i can own games now from the old ea that i always wanted to play when i was a kid where you needed a lot of computer knowledge to get those games running. Remember ems memory conflict?
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GameRager: Yep. I also remember making boot disks to clear out more of the base 640k of ram to run some game's required drivers and such.
I even remember playing ultima 7 without sound and music because only then the game worked :)
Post edited June 11, 2011 by hercufles
Posted June 11, 2011
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hercufles: I even remember playing ultima 7 without sound and music because only then the game worked :)
I remember working night and day trying to find third party mouse and other drivers so as to be able to play with mouse in a few games and not have to play keyboard only because I was out of memory.
Posted June 11, 2011
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hercufles: I even remember playing ultima 7 without sound and music because only then the game worked :)
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GameRager: I remember working night and day trying to find third party mouse and other drivers so as to be able to play with mouse in a few games and not have to play keyboard only because I was out of memory.
true and my first cd rom that sucked the ems you needed to run the game at all.
Posted June 15, 2011
I bought the games as promised.

However I didn't have the e-mail addresses of the winners so I just gifted the games to myself to redistribute via PM.

The result so far is that all three games ended up with the same redeem code so I've asked GOG support if they can split it up.

If they can't I guess I have to give all three games to one person.
Posted June 15, 2011
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Lenny: I bought the games as promised.

However I didn't have the e-mail addresses of the winners so I just gifted the games to myself to redistribute via PM.

The result so far is that all three games ended up with the same redeem code so I've asked GOG support if they can split it up.

If they can't I guess I have to give all three games to one person.
hopefully gog will sort it out, but next time yeah you gotta buy them individually.
Posted June 15, 2011
What I don't get about the whole thing is that nobody was complaining that they were incomplete when Privateer and Alpha Centauri and Dungeon Keeper were originally released (without the expansions that didn't exist), so why would we expect the GOG versions to include the expansions? Just because "Gold" versions of the those games were released in the past, or because other games on GOG include the expansions, doesn't mean that it is reasonable to just expect every game release to be "complete". Thinking like that we could just as well say that since EA has priced all of these well-loved classics at $5.99, any companies who are pricing games at $9.99 are just being greedy and we should boycott them until they lower their prices.

Feel free to not buy the EA games if you don't feel they offer a good value. Feel free to let people know that you're not buying EA games for that reason. DO NOT act like you are owed a "complete" version of a game because you have decided that GOG releases should include expansions. Nobody cares about your twisted opinions of what constitutes a worthwhile release.
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