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milito3515: Yes, I give to the winner a link to download the installer, without any DRM. The file was uploaded by me.

Greetings
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Wishbone: I think we just solved the mystery of why your rep is so low.

For the love of God man, that's piracy and illegal, and would you please stop perpetrating it here on the GOG forum?! It's people like you that make publishers/developers wary of going DRM-free!

Let me spell it out for you: DRM-free is not the same as just free! It does not mean you are allowed to share the game with anybody else.
It really depends on the details, physical copies with drm can be given away and sold and would not be piracy. This is not automatically illegal just because it is a drm copy game being given away, although it is likely either a very grey area type of deal, or technically not possible due to the way it has been purchased.
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GOGwiiisfun: I'm sorry if I'm assuming the worst here, but you're not just giving him something like a dropbox link to the installer are you?
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milito3515: Yes, I give to the winner a link to download the installer, without any DRM. The file was uploaded by me.

Greetings
Oh boy. Please listen to what <span class="bold">Wishbone</span> had to say above.
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mabrookes: It really depends on the details, physical copies with drm can be given away and sold and would not be piracy. This is not automatically illegal just because it is a drm copy game being given away, although it is likely either a very grey area type of deal, or technically not possible due to the way it has been purchased.
This is not a physical copy, but a digital one. However he got it, what he's offering is a dropbox link or similar to the DRM-free installer that he himself uploaded. No matter the details, this still means that afterwards, two people will have the game rather than one. It is also not the first time he has done a "giveaway" like this.
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milito3515: Yes, I give to the winner a link to download the installer, without any DRM. The file was uploaded by me.

Greetings
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Wishbone: I think we just solved the mystery of why your rep is so low.

For the love of God man, that's piracy and illegal, and would you please stop perpetrating it here on the GOG forum?! It's people like you that make publishers/developers wary of going DRM-free!

Let me spell it out for you: DRM-free is not the same as just free! It does not mean you are allowed to share the game with anybody else.
I'm not giving the game to all the world, I'll give it just to the winner.

Also, I actually don't play the game, so try to think I'm giving a physical copy: I give the copy, and I "lost" mine.

I'm not trying to affect negatively to any developer. If I'm doing that, I apologize.

Greetings
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mabrookes: It really depends on the details, physical copies with drm can be given away and sold and would not be piracy. This is not automatically illegal just because it is a drm copy game being given away, although it is likely either a very grey area type of deal, or technically not possible due to the way it has been purchased.
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Wishbone: This is not a physical copy, but a digital one. However he got it, what he's offering is a dropbox link or similar to the DRM-free installer that he himself uploaded. No matter the details, this still means that afterwards, two people will have the game rather than one. It is also not the first time he has done a "giveaway" like this.
I didn't know it was not the first time. You can sell digital copies of games (and software) legally in a few different ways - but if this is all he is doing then that is not good.
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mabrookes: I didn't know it was not the first time. You can sell digital copies of games (and software) legally in a few different ways - but if this is all he is doing then that is not good.
Here's an earlier one: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/giveaway_do_you_want_to_use_some_animal_masks/post1
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Wishbone: I think we just solved the mystery of why your rep is so low.

For the love of God man, that's piracy and illegal, and would you please stop perpetrating it here on the GOG forum?! It's people like you that make publishers/developers wary of going DRM-free!

Let me spell it out for you: DRM-free is not the same as just free! It does not mean you are allowed to share the game with anybody else.
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milito3515: I'm not giving the game to all the world, I'll give it just to the winner.

Also, I actually don't play the game, so try to think I'm giving a physical copy: I give the copy, and I "lost" mine.

I'm not trying to affect negatively to any developer. If I'm doing that, I apologize.

Greetings
Put yourself in the shoes of the developers. They release the game DRM-free, then see copies - they have seen no compensation for - spread around openly on the forums of a site that offers licensed DRM-free titles. Not really an incentive for them to consider going without DRM again in the future I'd say.
Post edited December 28, 2013 by chevkoch
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milito3515: I'm not giving the game to all the world, I'll give it just to the winner.

Also, I actually don't play the game, so try to think I'm giving a physical copy: I give the copy, and I "lost" mine.

I'm not trying to affect negatively to any developer. If I'm doing that, I apologize.

Greetings
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chevkoch: Put yourself in the shoes of the developers. They release the game DRM-free, then see copies - they have seen no compensation for - spread around openly on the forums of the site they licensed it to. Not really an incentive for them to consider the DRM-free route again in the future I'd say.
I'm thinking in what you're saying.

I'll considerer if I'll make the giveaway or not.

Greetings
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milito3515: I'll considerer if I'll make the giveaway or not.

Greetings
Just drop the idea. For now we all assume you mean good and it's a misunderstanding. If you go on with this, you can have this topic locked by the Blues and\or your rep will suffer even more.
Here's how you make giveaways:
1. The way I like to do it:
Buy a gift code for a game you like and want to share with this fine community. Make a fun contest (ask people to post something - I once asked people to post something creepy - or draw something or solve a riddle or write something anything <I used to make mini-adventure games... but triock always cracked them in minutes>). Pick the winner in a way you find suitable (quality of their work, random draw, 'first come, first served' for riddle giveaways).
2. Another good way:
Buy a gift code for a game you like and want to share with this fine community. Post a giveaway topic and let people enter. Make a random draw to pick the winner.
3. Some people have their keys from bundles. Some bundles and their fans don't like people spliting the bundles. Just to be safe, check terms of service of the bundle you want to give the keys away. Or check with amok, he seems to know everything about it :)
4. If you're not an authorized publisher \ retailer for the game you want to give away, for God's sake, DON'T send people links to your hosting account where you put the installer and NEVER, EVER share copies of your own games! If the service you get the game from doesn't have any way of making gifts, DON'T give away games purchased there. If there is a gifting mechanism - use it and nothing else.

tl;dr - the best way is buy the keys.
Post edited December 28, 2013 by Novotnus
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GOGwiiisfun: I'm sorry if I'm assuming the worst here, but you're not just giving him something like a dropbox link to the installer are you?
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milito3515: Yes, I give to the winner a link to download the installer, without any DRM. The file was uploaded by me.

Greetings
Hi,

While you may have the noblest of intentions, giving a link to an installer is NOT the way to go about doing a giveaway.

I'd recommend amending your original post and just buying the winner a key. Please DON'T put links to installers or give links via PM to installers.

I also noticed you stated that you aren't sharing it with the world. Well guess what? You don't know what the other person will do once they DO get that installer so, for all intents and purposes, you ARE sharing it with the world.
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milito3515: Yes, I give to the winner a link to download the installer, without any DRM. The file was uploaded by me.

Greetings
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JudasIscariot: Hi,

While you may have the noblest of intentions, giving a link to an installer is NOT the way to go about doing a giveaway.

I'd recommend amending your original post and just buying the winner a key. Please DON'T put links to installers or give links via PM to installers.

I also noticed you stated that you aren't sharing it with the world. Well guess what? You don't know what the other person will do once they DO get that installer so, for all intents and purposes, you ARE sharing it with the world.
Oh, I'm really sorry. Please, close or delete this post.

Thanks
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JudasIscariot: Hi,

While you may have the noblest of intentions, giving a link to an installer is NOT the way to go about doing a giveaway.

I'd recommend amending your original post and just buying the winner a key. Please DON'T put links to installers or give links via PM to installers.

I also noticed you stated that you aren't sharing it with the world. Well guess what? You don't know what the other person will do once they DO get that installer so, for all intents and purposes, you ARE sharing it with the world.
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milito3515: Oh, I'm really sorry. Please, close or delete this post.

Thanks
Dude, just amend your post and buy the winner a key if you still want to host a giveaway :)

We all make mistakes :)
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milito3515: Oh, I'm really sorry. Please, close or delete this post.

Thanks
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JudasIscariot: Dude, just amend your post and buy the winner a key if you still want to host a giveaway :)

We all make mistakes :)
I actually can't buy him a key, so please, close or delete the post.

I apologize for the inconvenients.

Greetings
Post edited December 28, 2013 by milito3515
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milito3515: Yes, I give to the winner a link to download the installer, without any DRM. The file was uploaded by me.
Greetings
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Wishbone: ... For the love of God man, that's piracy and illegal, and would you please stop perpetrating it here on the GOG forum?! It's people like you that make publishers/developers wary of going DRM-free!

Let me spell it out for you: DRM-free is not the same as just free! It does not mean you are allowed to share the game with anybody else.
This.

Not cool milito3515, you should have known better :-/