WRT to hammering: Please excuse me while I beat myself in the face with this chopping board.

Should *thwack* Check *thwack* Before *thwack* Posting *thwack*.

Sorry muttly >.<

Only Rod used the word "pressure". In no way have I said Rod secretly coerced me into voting O, that would make me scum like him. I said he could have interpreted my comments about O and attempted to prompt my vote. Which is did, if he meant to or not. For once, that is clear as day and right there in black and white.

To move further, I suspect now that he meant to. And for a guy who was so gung ho about lurkers, hes got nothing to say about Viteks absence and Rabbits complete resignation? I am not one to worry much about lurking, perhaps i will learn better latter, but for someone who put out "lurkers on notice" he seems mighty quiet about two folks going mighty silent at a key point in the game.

Spirited defense? You cut me to the quick! (all in game by the way, I dont have any issue with anyone, I hope thats inferred within the confines of the game) The man is trying to kill me after all... Worse he trying to deceive the rest of you.

I do have an issue with Lurkers.
However, there are far too many people lurking far too much throughout this game that I'd be shouting at someone every couple of posts if I made an issue of it.
If i called out 1 lurker, but not the others, that would in itself be suspicous.

The "LURKERS TAKE NOTE" comment that you referred to was not a threat.
Read the whole post.
I start by commenting that there are people that I feel have questions to answer.
I then go on to list those questions.
I then find possible answers to those questions myself.
As I wrote in the post, "Writing it down helped me think it through".
THIS was the message I was pointing out to the lurkers.
"You may be a bit confused, but post it & as you write, it becomes a bit clearer."

Heya. I know you're busy. Can we hear from you? Cheers.

Moderly duties have been performed. Commencing shut down.

Just as the day was slowing down we have fireworks.

Have been going back and forth on Muttly, am currently leaning towards him being town.
Though he isn't helping himself. With stuff like saying he will vote for himself.

His day 1 claim in post 133 when he said “I will bet my town bakery”. Could just be a newbie mistake. Though it is odd. As wasn't Ubivis the last person to claim day 1.

As for post 377 to me it just seems Muttly is agreeing with what most people were saying day 2. That it was likely Orryyrro was town. But there was so much uncertainty around him he had to be lynched at some point.

The interesting part is “until someone tells me why I should be voting”. Could be asking for general guidance or a call for help from mafia buddies.

Muttly there is a big difference between next to last vote and hammer vote. As been the hammer draws attention. No matter how many other people have voted. Which is why my hammering of Orryyrro is one of the things which makes people think I'm mafia.

Rodzaju the assumption mafia wouldn't vote for their own is clearly wrong. Also curious that you say “tell us what you think”. After laying out your theory against Mutty in post 723.
Don't understand the link with SirPrimalform.

@Muttly why do you think Vitek and Rodzaju are mafia?

@Xyem what happened when you failed your post restriction day 1?

Yes I went lurking a bit. I posted something directed at rabbit and I awaited response. Also I think I already made case against you and am quite convinced you are scum. Meanwhile I was I amusedly watched Rod making the same points as I did without aknowledging them. More importantly I read different "battles" (Xyem x NotFrench, muttly x Rodzaju) and tried to draw some conclusions.
It's nice that your main argument against me was "I am town and he made case against me so he has to be scum" and now you are even more convinced because I am not doing anything against you?

Ubivis?

I don't know. No-one gets told if it is in effect, so I don't know if Joe "forgave" that one or not.

still alive! I promise to post fully as soon as I get the chance! >_< sorry guys!!

The point is that, as I noted & under the assumption that scum won't vote scum, the whole town would need to join this vote for it to pass.
Therefore I was asking whether people agree that it is a lynch that should go through.
You could always show me what you think by voting (or not...) but some idea of the thought process is also helpful.

In Game 2. It was discussed in game 9 recently so it's actual case.
He softclaimed school nurse, led people believe he is doctor but in fact he was Mafia Roleblocker.

Any thoughts on these then, Vitek?

@Muttly, you're certainly flapping around a lot more than xyem did when I put him under pressure, than Primal or pazzer when Rod targetted them, and even more than Orry did in the face of a certain lynch... This is the most active you've been in the whole game, I think. Admittedly you have two votes on you.

Personally, I'm wondering if your current state of agitation is because you are in fact BOTH mafia, and this is an awkwardly veiled "Ahhh what are you doing trying to get me killed?! This wasn't in the plan!" message...

If this had happened a few days ago I would have found Rob's pressure enough to make you verrrrry suspicious. Except, a similar situation just rolled into a lynch in game 9, and the guy (a new player) was innocent all along. I too did a classically scummy thing at the end of D1 by backing out of the lynch voting, and Rabbit has already been pulled up for bandwagoning and changing votes with no reason.

So I'm following the points here, but I'm afraid I'm not convinced. I do think Muttly's scummy, but there are so many newbie moves which can be confused for scumminess (bandwagoning, following another's lead, softclaiming under guise of RPing, panicking when accumulating votes, quite erratic suspicion patterns) that I really don't feel comfortable basing my decision on that alone...

@Xyem: here, have some ice for your head. ;)

littlerabbit has just texted me saying her internet has gone down and that it might be a few days before she reappears. Also: "Sorry!!"

EDIT: Apologies for the edit, but this is an out of game post, I've never edited before (even by accident) and most importantly I accidentally put littlerabbit's name in the post initially. <.<;
I hope Queen Joe will forgive me.

Sure.
It's not much, though.
From discussion between you and Xyem is hard to determine anything. It can easily be discussion between two mafia, mafia x town, town x mafia, or between two townies. It practically solves nothing and led nowhere. But I think you are town and xyem is likely town but not necessary. Something with his restriction and its breaking seems off to me.
Yeah it's shorter than it should be but I slept terribly today and absolutely exhausted.

And the other one between muttly and Rod? Well, I was quite sure about muttly before and so far he hasn't convinced me otherwise. About Rod I am unsure a lot. I had him already as leaning scum before. Now he made case against player I think is mafia but I am not sure if it is sincere attack or not. He might be as well trying to win town favour by sacrificing his fellow-mafia.

Where have you all gone? If anything I expected higher activity during G9 night time. Mostly from me Sirprimal and Rodz. Sirprimalform even has not single post since end of day in Game 9.

The sun wanes behind a steady cloud.

Day Four Fifth Votecount
With eight alive it takes five votes to lynch.

2 - Muttly13 (cast by Vitek and Rodzaju)
1 - Rodzaju (cast by Muttly13)

Not Voting - xyem, SirPrimalform, LittleRabbit, Pazzer, NotFrenchYet.

Muttly13 is closest to lynch at L-3

I have been waiting for anything other than a placeholder from Rabbit.
It seems like this will not appear anytime soon.
The reason for the wait is that she is the only person not to make a significant appearance since I added a second vote on Muttly.

I think I can now say with certainty that at least 1 of Muttly, Me, Vitek & Rabbit are scum.
I know who my money is on....