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SirPrimalform: Now I'm thoroughly confused. Amok, you're confusing me. =(
Oh little girl
Please understand
And listen to the words I say
I was your dad
Now I’m your mom
I hope you’ll comprehend someday

I didn’t mean to confuse you
And now I know that it’s hard to understand

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Robbeasy: I hope this is just a mad hour or so you're having here Amok, cos i dont think i could stand it if you had to do this every post because of some mod restriction...:)
I have changed I'm not the same
Not forever
What can I say I'd be OK
And so would you
If you came back if you were here
You would remember
It's as simple as I say
I can change I'm not the same
It's as simple as I say
I can change I'm not the same

:)
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Robbeasy: I hope this is just a mad hour or so you're having here Amok, cos i dont think i could stand it if you had to do this every post because of some mod restriction...:)
Hope you're not ignoring my question hoping it'll go away...

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SirPrimalform: May I ask why you thought it was a good idea to hammer immediately after JMich's claim, thereby denying us the chance to discuss the claim? I'm not saying I didn't think he was scum, but when we get new info it's a good idea to discuss it.
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Robbeasy: I hope this is just a mad hour or so you're having here Amok, cos i dont think i could stand it if you had to do this every post because of some mod restriction...:)
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SirPrimalform: Hope you're not ignoring my question hoping it'll go away...

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SirPrimalform: May I ask why you thought it was a good idea to hammer immediately after JMich's claim, thereby denying us the chance to discuss the claim? I'm not saying I didn't think he was scum, but when we get new info it's a good idea to discuss it.
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SirPrimalform:
Not at all Sir - still rereading yesterday in the light of the nights results - I'll get back and answer your question - i just felt the need to comment on amoks posts....
it's. oh. so quiet
it'a oh. so still
you're all alone
and so peaceful until...
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CSPVG: SPF:

I was thinking more along the lines of a mafia-serial killer combo. I can't think of any other reason why we would have two night kills, other than another motivator.
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amok: I am more thinking that there is a vigilante aboard - may or may not be town aligned.

May also be some mechanics from the mod - like a variation of JMich's curse which may kill if said enough times.
Why wasn't this post "restricted?" I'm not sure I'm buying this hoax.
Singing aside... and I'm happy to leave it behind... I think Telika would give such a restriction to scum. Curious to see amok's next post, and whether it remains musical or not.
So the current plan is "sit here until the deadline passes"?

Oh yeah, vote Robbeasy. Just a reminder for both of us. >_>
I hadn't even considered the possibility of a vigilante. That may be what is going on.

Furthermore, I'm baffled by Amok's last few posts. He'd made two normal posts earlier in the day, and can now- it would seem- only post in song lyrics. I was wondering, since this change only took place after his post, if Vitek had anything to do with this. I have developed what may be a rather outlandish theory about this: That Vitek and Amok may, in fact, serve as town masons. This is mainly due to the fact that Vitek's death notice includes the words 'Urdu speaker'. Perhaps they shared, in the flavour, a common language, which allowed them to communicate without anyone being able to understand them. This is undermined by the fact that 'Urdu speaker' is preceded by 'Town vanilla', but I thought I should mention my thoughts.

Lastly, I'm unhappy that Joe has not yet checked in. Therefore, I will Vote: JoeSapphire until he shows up.
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CSPVG: Lastly, I'm unhappy that Joe has not yet checked in. Therefore, I will Vote: JoeSapphire until he shows up.
Woah yeah, where the hell is he?
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amok: I am more thinking that there is a vigilante aboard - may or may not be town aligned.

May also be some mechanics from the mod - like a variation of JMich's curse which may kill if said enough times.
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flubbucket: Why wasn't this post "restricted?" I'm not sure I'm buying this hoax.
Greed is on the lady
It's on the bone
Greed is on the lady, oh
It's time to fall

Naked on the bedroom
We died alone
Breathing on my baby, oh
It's not my fault

It's not the money
It's not her fault
Naked on the bedroom oh
I should've known

Oh my baby
I've been a fool
Now the sound of loving
Is old and somehow gone

Who said not to leave?
Never known a boy to be so mean.
Another soul lost in love
Holding on and on

Oh she lusts on me
Not enough to last on love
Oh greet got to me
Holding on and on

It's on the bottle
It's on the cone
Greed is in the waiting, oh
Waiting to fall

Waiting in the bedroom
I die alone
Waiting on my baby, oh
It's not my fault

It's not the honey
She's on her knees
Naked in the bedroom, oh
I should've known

Oh my baby
I've been a fool
Now the sound of loving
Is old and somehow gone

Who said not to leave?
Never known a boy to be so mean.
Another soul lost in love
Holding on and on

Oh she lusts on me
Not enough to last on love
Oh greet got to me
Holding on and on
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SirPrimalform: So the current plan is "sit here until the deadline passes"?

Oh yeah, vote Robbeasy. Just a reminder for both of us. >_>
Good reminder!

Sorry, apologies, its the weekend and my weekend is filled with kids and running about after them (access time). I will hopefully be able to look at this once all are asleep later...i know its not good , but please bear with me - i will get round to answering your question at some point!!
Well amok, as Queen would say thanks for clearing that up.....o.0
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flubbucket: Well amok, as Queen would say thanks for clearing that up.....o.0
Perhaps its some sort of 'punishment' for a posting rule that Amok has broke? Seen it before in a previous game......it surely doesn't help us in any way , shape or form anyway - and frankly, if it is something like that, then its terrible - effectively rendering one players posts meaningless for whatever reason does not a good game make, in my opinion.

Unless of course he's speaking in some sort of code I cannot break, which would be worse...

Anyway - SPF - to answer your question...

the Vitek / Jmich argument had been going on for ages - the stances and claims were pretty much set in stone at that time. Yes in hindsight I should have held off but I was swinging towards Viteks side way before that and I really did believe Jmichs claim was rubbish - a sorceror who can bring bad luck is a Town player?? I flat didnt believe it and just felt it was the last straw.

Yes it means I hammered, and must take the inevitable heat for that as he flipped town, but at the time i was convinced.

Looking back at yesterday one thing jumps out and i cant understand why no-one else has seen it......we were already complaining about the number of blockers knocking about , and I for one was thinking someone must be lying.
Both Jmich and Vitek have flipped Town, Jmich as a blocker - Joe's flavour would correspond with the claim , and Jmich also stated he did get a second chance to block, which backs up CSPVG, claim.

What I dont see is the 'other' person that was blocked by Jmich. We can rule out Vitek as his flavour doesn't fit in with the 'bad luck' sorceror stuff at all - so someone else was blocked? Yet no-one has come forward...

What DOES interest me is that night Joe was blocked - one kill. Next night, with Town roleblocker dead - two kills. With Jmich dead, it means more people free to do their thing.

Vote Joe
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CSPVG: I hadn't even considered the possibility of a vigilante. That may be what is going on.

Furthermore, I'm baffled by Amok's last few posts. He'd made two normal posts earlier in the day, and can now- it would seem- only post in song lyrics. I was wondering, since this change only took place after his post, if Vitek had anything to do with this. I have developed what may be a rather outlandish theory about this: That Vitek and Amok may, in fact, serve as town masons. This is mainly due to the fact that Vitek's death notice includes the words 'Urdu speaker'. Perhaps they shared, in the flavour, a common language, which allowed them to communicate without anyone being able to understand them. This is undermined by the fact that 'Urdu speaker' is preceded by 'Town vanilla', but I thought I should mention my thoughts.

Lastly, I'm unhappy that Joe has not yet checked in. Therefore, I will Vote: JoeSapphire until he shows up.
While I can appreciate the thinking outside the box I see nothing to indicate mason. I had earlier posed the question regarding what an Urdu speaker could possibly do, but amok's posts as of the beginning showed normal. The answers in song lyrics offer nothing to go on. But that just goes to a list of things I find very puzzling at this point.

1) Why the change in amok's posting at what would seem a random moment?

2) Why two deaths last night?

3) What's this about a poisoner?
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flubbucket: 1) Why the change in amok's posting at what would seem a random moment?
Nowhere indefinitely
Not dead, not alive
Existence-patterns ripped of symmetry
As will and fate divide

Have I appeased the gods of fate
Am I allowed another day
Must I die to escape
The scanning eyes of death

Ripped away by destiny-claws
Am I another of fate's possessions
Dwelling the lie of freedom
Just another straw pulled at random

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flubbucket: 2) Why two deaths last night?
Racing in the shadows pounding of the feet
While the old men get to praying
And the children try to sleep
Just another promise they don't really care
'Cause the movement on the borders
Got the people running scared
Standing on the corner never got things done
If you leave your front door open
You'll be the foolish one
No misunderstanding no honour among thieves
It's a sorry situation
When a gun is all you need
Go call the vigilante
He'll turn this place upside down
Go call the vigilante
He don't get kicked around
Hold on there's a new way a comin'
Looks like it's arriving tonight

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flubbucket: 3) What's this about a poisoner?
No I don't believe you
When you say don't come around here no more
I won't remind you
You said we wouldn't be apart
No, I don't believe you
When you say you don't need me anymore
So don't pretend
To not love me at all