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DarkoD13: Your response to me has something of the hysterical about it, and I really do think that you've over-reacted to mention of your absence. However, I should answer to your remarks in post 87:

1) Your entire," Making accusations while avoiding confrontation." argument is silly to me. While I did not use the reply system, I alerted your attention to my post in other ways. I used your full screen-name, and put it in bold.

If I wanted to avoid confrontation, would I not speak about you to the rest of the group, instead of addressing you directly as I have done?

2) I perceive no real difference between not posting in five days, and not posting in four days. While there is the obvious gap of twenty-four hours, both show a lack of effort on your part.

3) I do not feel that I've attacked or singled-out anyone. I merely stated my suspicions about two players, and for a legitimate reason. Lurking is generally bad for a mafia game, as it means not all the members of the group are interacting with one another. This is bad because it means we're deprived of reactions, suspicions which may lead to a mafia lynch, or any other such useful information.

Furthermore, I even conceded that your absence may be due to RL reasons, and did not vote for either you or kkreo because I thought this the most likely possibility( I now know that, at least in your case, that's not the truth).
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Moving on to your newer posts. In particular, I find your comments in post 100 to be interesting.

So, you were not prodded, but did not make the effort to post. Surely, even if the thread was stalled due to DieRuhe's absence, a townie would have tried to keep conversation flowing.

Having mentioned this, I do not quite agree with your assertion that the thread was at a dead-end due to DieRuhe's absence. The thread, to me, seems to have moved along fine, and none of us were really waiting for DieRuhe.

These two odd statements lead me to suspect you even more, enough- in fact- to say Vote: DarkoD13.

Vitek: I called attention to it only because I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm not sure whether I'm dealing with a softclaim or not, and would have liked the groups opinion on it. So far, only Joe has responded.

flubbucket: That seems like a far stretch to me. Surely, if I wanted either of them mod-killed, I would have alerted Telika to there long absence( one which I'm sure he was aware of), as that would be more likely to actually get them out of the way.
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CSPVG: DarkoD13: Your response to me has something of the hysterical about it
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CSPVG: 2) I perceive no real difference between not posting in five days, and not posting in four days. While there is the obvious gap of twenty-four hours, both show a lack of effort on your part.
Well, at least I'm glad you've finally responded, even if it took you a day to do so. Or is it two? No difference, right?
So 24 hours are of no significance to you? Why is that? Are you waiting for the night?

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CSPVG: 1) Your entire," Making accusations while avoiding confrontation." argument is silly to me. While I did not use the reply system, I alerted your attention to my post in other ways. I used your full screen-name, and put it in bold.
Still not using the reply button. Nice "technique". You can always cross your fingers and hope someone won't notice.

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CSPVG: ( I now know that, at least in your case, that's not the truth).
Like I said, you are an amazing detective. Your detecting skills have expanded to real life!

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CSPVG: a townie would have tried to keep conversation flowing.
I'm glad you have the manual on how a "true" townie should act. I'd theorize that a scum could keep making pointless posts?

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CSPVG: none of us were really waiting for DieRuhe.
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JMich: Is that why nobody's posting? Are we waiting for DieRuhe to post?
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JMich: For now, I'm going to keep my vote where it is, although I do think it likely that DieRuhe will soon find himself/ herself replaced. Speaking of votes: Telika, could we have a vote count?
Sure. Business as usual.

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CSPVG: Vote: DarkoD13.
Finally, something honest.
EBWOP
The " For now, I'm going to keep my vote where it is, although I do think it likely that DieRuhe will soon find himself/ herself replaced. Speaking of votes: Telika, could we have a vote count?" post is yours, not JMich's.
The "Is that why nobody's posting? Are we waiting for DieRuhe to post?" is Vitek's, responding to JMich.

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JMich: Now let's wait for the last player to arrive.
I think I remember that Robbeasy plays offensivedefense in all mafia games, am I right? It's not just when he's scum, does anyone remember?

I'm going to try and have a game where I'm not obsessively convinced that Robbeasy in on team mafia.

In light of that my TOP FAVOURITE scum team of this game is:
coming in at number one is AMOK,
two is JMICH
and my third choice is GKAISER

which is to say that I think the spat between CSPVG and DARKOD13 is the usual nothing
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JoeSapphire: I think I remember that Robbeasy plays offensivedefense in all mafia games, am I right? It's not just when he's scum, does anyone remember?

I'm going to try and have a game where I'm not obsessively convinced that Robbeasy in on team mafia.

In light of that my TOP FAVOURITE scum team of this game is:
coming in at number one is AMOK,
two is JMICH
and my third choice is GKAISER

which is to say that I think the spat between CSPVG and DARKOD13 is the usual nothing
any reasons for this?

There is now only been one major discussion involving two players here, and with one big swoop you are sweeping it under the carpet.... this smells of FUD.
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amok: ...........<snip>................

There is now only been one major discussion involving two players here, and with one big swoop you are sweeping it under the carpet.... this smells of FUD.
Okay I'll bite.

What's FUD??

Also how can Vitek and JoeSapphire have such a keen connection? I would NEVER have figured out that word play. I'm not saying it isn't a complete fabrication intended to obfuscate, but I'm seeing synergistic thinking along the lines of conjoined twins.

Seriously??
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amok: ...........<snip>................

There is now only been one major discussion involving two players here, and with one big swoop you are sweeping it under the carpet.... this smells of FUD.
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flubbucket: Okay I'll bite.

What's FUD??

Also how can Vitek and JoeSapphire have such a keen connection? I would NEVER have figured out that word play. I'm not saying it isn't a complete fabrication intended to obfuscate, but I'm seeing synergistic thinking along the lines of conjoined twins.

Seriously??
Fear, uncertainty and doubt. Distraction tactics, basically.

I am also seeing some synergies, but not the same as those you are seeing, I guess...

Seriously.
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CSPVG: Vitek: I called attention to it only because I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm not sure whether I'm dealing with a softclaim or not, and would have liked the groups opinion on it. So far, only Joe has responded.
I had thought it was obvious. I was joking when I cried softclaim, as I assume Vitek was when he made the make up joke.
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amok: ..........<snip<...........
Fear, uncertainty and doubt. Distraction tactics, basically.

I am also seeing some synergies, but not the same as those you are seeing, I guess...

Seriously.
Got it.

So go on about the synergistic integration you are seeing. I'm intrigued.
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CSPVG: ...............<snip>......................

flubbucket: That seems like a far stretch to me. Surely, if I wanted either of them mod-killed, I would have alerted Telika to there long absence( one which I'm sure he was aware of), as that would be more likely to actually get them out of the way.
I do not believe your intention was to actually get them out of the way. I am more inclined to think the opposite. I also find the banter between you and DarkoD13 to border on contrived.

Are you sure you two aren't on the same team??
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amok: ..........<snip<...........
Fear, uncertainty and doubt. Distraction tactics, basically.

I am also seeing some synergies, but not the same as those you are seeing, I guess...

Seriously.
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flubbucket: Got it.

So go on about the synergistic integration you are seeing. I'm intrigued.
I was thinking Joe where a little bit to quick dismissing everything, and I wondered why. One reason may be to draw attention away from it, to cover up for either one of the people in question. I am not quite sure which one yet.... but it felt to casual and quick.
So Joe, amok is accusing you of shenanigans. Seems odd since he's on top of your current scum list.

Surely there's an acronym for such things...
Well, interesting start, not bad for a first day. This might turn into a WOT, but I'm going to just give out my thoughts on so far...

Joe - is just being joe, i think - for now. Always had some odd postings, and theres been games in the past where I've been convinced he was Mafia with some of the stuff he was coming out with, only for him to flip town. his dig at me in post 34 is an odd one though, after i said it was a purely RVS 'joke' post. @ Joe - as a good town player, you should obsessively think EVERYONE ELSE is mafia....;)

Jmich - quick to jump on my RVS post about Joe (post 18). Vitek also picked up on this (post 22). Jmich did give a reasonable explanation in post 31 though.

Vitek - his post 32 is more than a little odd. after SPF laments the killing off of the Doc and say he 'hopes we have something to make up for that', Vitek responds with 'Dont worry i have a lot of make-up'.
Now I'm sorry, but theres no way on earth you can't see how that would give people pause - is it a softclaim? are you trying to attract attention? The fact, as joe said, that it was just a play on words, a joke - seriously???!! You didnt stop to consider how other players might interpret that statement?? I love the defensive / offensive dig at CSPVG in post 83 as well...pray tell what else you expected after posting what you did? Us all to shut up about it?? Not, in any way conceivable, a pro-town post...

SPF - Can't really see where you get Mafia Roleblocker from though!! Viteks assertion that he has something to make up for Town losing Doc, and you think of Mafia Roleblocker? Prostitute role? It's a bit of a tenuous link at best. You then backtrack immensely in post 113, when you think you might get some heat for the softclaim accusation.

Flubb - post 84. In direct answer to that, no i don't think we should at all, but let me come back at you with 'you think Vitek should be making posts like that in the first place?'

DarkoD13 - a little zealous in his pursuit of CSPVG just for getting a day wrong in posting times, but I think i like the direct style you have so far. This has a condition though - see next sentence....

CSPVG - also a little over-reactive in my mind to Darko's attack. Town points for Flubbucket here - i agree with him that your spat appears a little contrived with DarkoD13

Amok - right I think to question Joes post 109, as Joe hasn't really come out and explained it in any way..

Nothing else has really hit me. As you might be able to tell, I've gone through the thread from the start, jotting down thoughts as i've come across posts..tried to keep some semblance of order by sticking names down and keeping posts to do with them together where I can.

So, going with the above, my current top suspects are Vitek and SPF. Everyone else I also think is Mafia, as its first day and nothing could and should convince me otherwise, but those two are putting themselves front and centre in my mind...
Hm, seems like we start having some activity again. So, let me add a question for SPF.

You assumed Vitek's "make-up" post meant he was a roleblocker, since those may be known in some games as prostitutes. My question is why would that term pop up to make such a joke, instead of something else, like rouges are overpowered?
Oh God, what have I done?