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Posted April 15, 2013
We (still) want to hear from you!

We recently asked you guys for feedback based on some potential games that we may be able to sign in the future. The results were pretty clear--and we will be sharing them with you all soon--but we did want to ask you a single follow-up question with an actual real-world game example. One of the games that we would like to add to our catalog is Planetary Annihilation. This is an RTS with many modern gaming features, and we figured we'd use it as our test example.

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Planetary Annihilation is distinctive for the following:

- Multiplayer and skirmish focused gameplay; there is no story-based single-player campaign, but AI skirmish matches provide a great single player experience.
- Optional persistent online features such as scoreboards, social features, achievements, and the online multiplayer campaign - a persistent galaxy-wide war; an account with the developer's online service is required in order to use these features.
- No activation, unique codes, or third-party accounts are required for single-player play or, LAN/direct connection multiplayer.
- A unique key is required for Internet multiplayer, and an account with the developer's service is only required for the persistent online features.

Now, that you know about the game's specifics, here's our question:
Post edited April 15, 2013 by G-Doc
Posted April 15, 2013
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haydenaurion: I just don't see the point of having a primarily multi-player focused game on here DRM-free when you have to be online to really play these types of games anyways.
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JMich: You don't have to be online. LAN play is there. Online is if you want the server to find you opponents. If you already know who you wish to play against, no 3rd party account needed, nor any cd-key.
It's really the very small amount of single-player stuff in the game that's the sticking point for me, I just don't see the point in trying to get a game on here DRM-free when there's not alot of offline content and the focus is on multi-player. LAN is nice and all, but most people these days seem to play online multi-player. I hate to say it, but I think this game would be better suited to Steam. To be fair though, i'm not really a big multi-player guy which is why i'm taking this position, but hopefully I don't piss off half of GOG with my posts, we've had a bit too many forum wars here recently.
Posted April 15, 2013
I said yes but wanted to to follow it it up with remark that games on GOG should ALWAYS HAVE SINGLE-PLAYER. If I wanted to play skirmish based games I have plenty of options out there that are completely free of charge.
I would never give my money for a game that is only multiplayer or skirmish based, it has to have single-player campaign
Posted April 15, 2013
Given that CD-Keys are only required if you want to play online and registration only if you want to use certain online features, so they are optional, i voted yes.

As long as it is stated clearly which form of use you get if you don't want to register and the actual game works fine without them, i am fine with this. And as long as it is just something like a CD-Key to hack into your game without binding you account to it.

With all the "slippery"-stuff. I own a lot of games here and "my guys" at GoG never screwed me over. They may have slipped a bit with the DLC-Stuff from Omerta but i do not think it was evil intend. And now they even try to ask us what we honestly think about certain things so they know what is acceptable for us. If that is not a platform i can give a bit of trust to think about their consumers, well i don't know which kind of platform i could.
Post edited April 15, 2013 by ElarionAbendglan
Posted April 15, 2013
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I'm with the "non issue" crowd.

Can i play it in a 100 years, provided I keep the equipment? Yes.
Can I play it offline? Yes.
Can I play in singleplayer? Yes.
Can I play with other people without having to bother with the developer? Yes.

So why the hell should I vote "No"?
Posted April 15, 2013
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Fluffboll: I voted no for the simple fact that CD-Keys were the first type of DRM-like protection that cropped up and from that all other DRM evolved.
Get off my lawn :-P

Manual checks, code wheels, bad sectors, dongles, unique disks,... were long before CDs, never mind CD-keys.
Posted April 15, 2013
I'm not really in to multi-player focused games but i voted yes cause hey its more games.
Posted April 15, 2013
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haydenaurion: It's really the very small amount of single-player stuff in the game that's the sticking point for me, I just don't see the point in trying to get a game on here DRM-free when there's not alot of offline content and the focus is on multi-player. LAN is nice and all, but most people these days seem to play online multi-player. I hate to say it, but I think this game would be better suited to Steam. To be fair though, i'm not really a big multi-player guy which is why i'm taking this position, but hopefully I don't piss off half of GOG with my posts, we've had a bit too many forum wars here recently.
Well, I did play UT2k4 with some friends a few weeks ago, and it was still as fun as I recalled. There are some games that you just keep for the occasions when the gang meets up for a lan party, even if it does take too long to organize one (6-12 months between each if we are lucky).
Think of it as the price of a night out with friends, but at least with this you can actually hurl a moon towards them ;)
Posted April 15, 2013
I vote "Yes"! GOG's doing a great job and bringing more and different kinds of games into their catalogue is a good move.
Posted April 15, 2013
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haydenaurion: It's really the very small amount of single-player stuff in the game that's the sticking point for me, I just don't see the point in trying to get a game on here DRM-free when there's not alot of offline content and the focus is on multi-player. LAN is nice and all, but most people these days seem to play online multi-player. I hate to say it, but I think this game would be better suited to Steam. To be fair though, i'm not really a big multi-player guy which is why i'm taking this position, but hopefully I don't piss off half of GOG with my posts, we've had a bit too many forum wars here recently.
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JMich: Well, I did play UT2k4 with some friends a few weeks ago, and it was still as fun as I recalled. There are some games that you just keep for the occasions when the gang meets up for a lan party, even if it does take too long to organize one (6-12 months between each if we are lucky).
Think of it as the price of a night out with friends, but at least with this you can actually hurl a moon towards them ;)
True, and Planetary Annihilation does seem like a fun game. :)
Posted April 15, 2013
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GOG.com: ...Please visit this news page to answer our question, now that you know about the game.
I feel that you should have asked 2 questions instead of one.

"Whether or not this particular game interests you?"

No, I'm not interested in this particular game since I am not fond of RTS games.

"Do you feel that a game with these features should be welcome in our catalog?"

Yes, as long as single-player portion is playable off-line and provides enough value (ie: not too short or has high replayability), then I don't mind any games that need unique keys for online multi-player.
Post edited April 15, 2013 by galumn
Posted April 15, 2013
I'm not interested in the game but I voted yes. Fesin said it nicely:
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Fesin: I'm with the "non issue" crowd.

Can i play it in a 100 years, provided I keep the equipment? Yes.
Can I play it offline? Yes.
Can I play in singleplayer? Yes.
Can I play with other people without having to bother with the developer? Yes.

So why the hell should I vote "No"?
As long as I don't need to connect somewhere to gain an approval to play SP game with or without DLCs, I'm okay with that. I would welcome if a card of game focusing mainly on MP contained some disclaimer. I wouldn't be happy to pay $20 for a game and then discover that it's basically a hour long tutorial for multi-player.

Also, I'm glad to hear that you intend to share poll results with us! :)
Post edited April 15, 2013 by Mivas
Posted April 15, 2013
I don't know. I voted yes, but it could easily go either way. I know that going for the strict definition of DRM-free will be limiting to a fault, but at the same time I can easily imagine where this will eventually lead to.
Posted April 15, 2013
Voted yes, but here's one caveat: you really need an extra condition that players can host their own servers for all crucial features of the game. For instance with PA players should be able to host their own Galactic War. (Hosting their own leaderboards and social stuff could be nice too, but I don't see it as important.) This is crucial for the survival of the game after official servers go down, and should be core to GOG.com's philosophy.
Posted April 15, 2013
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drchannard: I would say yes, but would like to add something.

Since there is no single-player offiline campaign and only a mulitplayer online campaign, I would suggest having a 1 month subsciption built in with the purchase price for people to be able to try the online aspects of the game.
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photoleia: I did not get the impression that additional subscription fees were part of this. I kind of got the impression that you pay for the game = you get online play. Additional subscription fees would make this a 100% "no" in my book, where at the moment I'm okay with this game but not totally comfortable with the doors it opens.
Sorry, yes, as TheEnigmaticT also said, there is no additional charge for the multiplayer. I was incorrectly reading into that (obviously).

If this is the case, then I see no problems what-so-ever with making it available. It seems like it would be clearly stated in the purchase so you know what you are getting for the price you pay.
Posted April 15, 2013
I'm with most folks: as long as no DRM or activation is required for single-player or player-hosted online or LAN games, I'm okay with this.
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