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liquidsnakehpks: ...
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JKHSawyer: ...
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darthspudius: ...
Uh? Are you serious?

Should you remember years of 'no Steam no sales' everywhere on developers' forums?
Should you remember years of Steam memes and false advertisement from Steam fanboys saying that Steam sales are the better ones of digital market?
Should you remember years of 'Steamworks for the win', 'DRM-free addicts are evil pirates', 'too bad for other sellers, Steam cards and Steam achievements are key-sellers'?
Should you notice how many topics are created here on gog's forums to have Steam keys?

I only suscribed for a year, but I followed the 'DRM-free movement' for years.

And I understand (and I agree) with people getting tired of years of 'Steam blablabla', especially when they hate Steam.
Because years of that thing on every news website, every developer's forum, every social media...

Especially when the main problem is DRM, because it's matter of freedom and guilty.
Especially when some main publishers don't release their games as DRM-free.
We aren't at the beginning of DRM-free demands.

Like you said, things have changed. Because we are in 2014. And after years of waiting, even when some crowdfunding projects based on DRM-free versions try to escape and only came back to DRM-free because of true internet shitstorms...

I understand that many people hating DRM don't want to stick the actual catalog, and are waiting for too much time.

And for your information, in the world of trolls, whinners and co, Steam forums are way more ahead than DRM-free purists.


In the other hand concerning the classic Fallouts, while I am still unhappy to not see them available on a DRM-free store, critizing the new logos is missing the point.
Zenimax/Bethesda have purchased the IP and won the case. So we should respect justice.
It's rights holders' matter.

I remember when I purchased the Total War Eras box and saw the new SEGA logo on screen for each game and not the EA logo for Shogun and its addon, nor the Activision logo for Medieval and its addon.

Yes, it is the true end of an era for some nostalgic minds. But we already knew that. So we should accept it.

The only thing we should ask Bethesda and Zenimax for, is the release of their catalog on a DRM-free digital store, not bother with logos...
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cw8: No difference? I beg to differ. The original Fallouts had no bethesda copyright claim at the splash screen. Granted now beth owns the franchise, but they have it from money invested only, they have nothing contributed at all neither in effort or talent towards the original Fallout 1 & 2.
Do you feel the same about the Sierra adventure games that are available here on GOG but that Activision Blizzard own these days?

Or System Shock 2 which is here because of Night Dive Studios despite not having anything to do with the original development.<?

Or any of the many other games here too. Should GOG remove those games to remain "pure"? Have they abandoned their ideals to allow those games here?

As for Logos, Ubisoft changed the logo on some of their older games even though they weren't involved with them back then. So it's not unique to Bethesda either.
Post edited June 24, 2014 by Freddo
sigh i hope the hard work tfishell is putting into getting the word is not tarnished by such rude comments . will tweet a kind request at them on twitter instead
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Freddo: Do you feel the same about the Sierra adventure games that are available here on GOG but that Activision Blizzard own these days?

Or System Shock 2 which is here because of Night Dive Studios despite not having anything to do with the original development.<?

Or any of the many other games here too. Should GOG remove those games to remain "pure"? Have they abandoned their ideals to allow those games here?
Last I recall, they do not have their copyright notice with their names in the games. And why the comparison with Night Drive Studios, Night Drive did us a favour bringing the games we thought impossible to come here, here. Beth brought the games out of GOG.

Never said it was unique to beth or that my dislike is targeted exclusively at them. Ubi isn't exactly a saint either. And everyone knows EA as the "devil".
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liquidsnakehpks: imagine the joy when Bethesda , reads the comments posted here , i am sure they will want to come gog after all such supportive comments.
If they wanted to bring their games here, I doubt they will look at the type of fans we have over here, instead they will look at the how big the user base is on GOG. And whether DRM-free is truly viable. If they had made that decision, Morrowind would long be here already.
Post edited June 24, 2014 by cw8
i am pretty sure they also have regional pricing and restriction , i can't access fallout games on steam such as fallout 3 and new vegas, will they forgo them for gog ?
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JKHSawyer: GOG isn't a religion yet some of you sound like downright cultish fanboys. Chill out...
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