Posted January 05, 2013
Navagon
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Fenixp
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Posted January 05, 2013
I thought that's appdata. It's not Microsoft's fault that programmers choose to save stuff whereever, they could enforce it a bit more tho.
WhiteElk
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Posted January 05, 2013
Well that's great news. So far, with EVERY SINGLE game i've installed from GOG, i've had to change the default location AWAY from Program Files. i grew frustrated with this after the first dozen. Would be nice if the installers simply remembered where i put the last ones. Really it's no big deal though. My biggest beef is getting update messages but having absolutely no information on what would be updated. That's actually begun to piss me off.
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Posted January 05, 2013
Navagon
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Posted January 05, 2013
Fenixp: I thought that's appdata. It's not Microsoft's fault that programmers choose to save stuff whereever, they could enforce it a bit more tho.
They don't do enough to include this in development educational materials, though I suspect it's part of certification. You're right it's technically not MS' fault, but they kind of handed over a mess and expected people to behave well, it's both sides' issue now and we users deal with the fallout.
I am never confused about where to put shit in Linux, it's great, I just wish I could say the same for Windows (I'm not being snarky, I really want this).
Navagon
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Posted January 05, 2013
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Posted January 05, 2013
Navagon: I actually have to commend GOG on this. Program Files has to be pretty much the worst place to install games and is the reason save games, config data and other regularly altered files are usually stored GOG knows where.
orcishgamer: Windows is a clusterfuck anyway, I would like everyone to agree on a clear location for userland apps, right now. I'm waiting... where is it? Fenixp: I thought that's appdata. It's not Microsoft's fault that programmers choose to save stuff whereever, they could enforce it a bit more tho.
orcishgamer: They don't do enough to include this in development educational materials, though I suspect it's part of certification. You're right it's technically not MS' fault, but they kind of handed over a mess and expected people to behave well, it's both sides' issue now and we users deal with the fallout.
I am never confused about where to put shit in Linux, it's great, I just wish I could say the same for Windows (I'm not being snarky, I really want this).
Post edited January 05, 2013 by Darkcloud
goplanet
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Posted January 05, 2013
Fenixp: Actually, as far as I'm aware, only some GOG installers prevent you from using special characters, and those are installers for games where special characters in the path would cause issues, like Dungeon Keeper 2 for example. After all, these are old games, and old software often has issues with special characters in install paths.
The first time I encountered this issue was with the installer for Treasure Adventure Game, released in 2011. Meanwhile, the much older Imperialism does not have this restriction (both with 2.0 GOG installers). It seems entirely arbitrary whether installers have this restriction or not. This just seems like a weird, stupid bug to me, more than an intentional restriction. At least I hope so, because if it was done intentionally it's even more idiotic. (Perhaps the programmer forgot that parentheses are allowed in Windows pathnames?)
But my main point was that I really wish they would just use a standard installer. This is by far my biggest complaint about GOG.
Wouldn't Saved Games be a logical place?
Post edited January 05, 2013 by goplanet
Fenixp
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Posted January 05, 2013
goplanet: The first time I encountered this issue was with the installer for Treasure Adventure Game, released in 2011. Meanwhile, the much older Imperialism does not have this restriction (both with 2.0 GOG installers). It seems entirely arbitrary whether installers have this restriction or not.
In that case they have added the requirement to all then. Well... Interesting choice, especially for new titles - at any rate, there are suddenly no more complaints about bugs caused by installing to default 'program files' or about game saves / whatever not working because of path with 'special' characters, and complaints about GOG restricting special characters are few and far between, so I'd say it was a good call on GOG's part. Sort of. I'd agree that a warning would be a prefferable solution, but ... Well, people are idiots, they won't read no warnings! What is a standard installer? GOG is using innosetup, what's non-standard about that?
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Posted January 05, 2013
Don't get me started on installers for Windows. If you want to clear a room full of developers FAST just utter the words "we need someone to work on the installer" - you wont see them for dust.
And that's when you are developing your own software with full access to the source to fix any incorrect assumptions/mistakes about file/resource placement.
I shudder to think what GOG have to go through to successfully install games that have been developed from before Windows existed all the way up to current games via every version of Windows with little or no access to the source.
And that's when you are developing your own software with full access to the source to fix any incorrect assumptions/mistakes about file/resource placement.
I shudder to think what GOG have to go through to successfully install games that have been developed from before Windows existed all the way up to current games via every version of Windows with little or no access to the source.
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Posted January 05, 2013
Soooo, people still install their games into "program files"?