Well, theres was some debate several years ago when some of the users of steam got banned.
If i recall they coudnt access the game on the account anymore even though they paid for them.
The offence they commited was extremly bad in the eyes of valve but that doesnt change the fact that they shoud still have acess to the games since they paid for them.
They didnt break any law only some of the steam Eula.
So theres that.

They get away with that by calling steam a service, like a library instead of selling products

What does that have to do with what we were talking about?

I can't download the game, what's going on? Is it out or not?

Well, still a bad move.
If i pay for my car no one can refuse me to do anything with it as long as i dont break the law.

In my mind this woud be DRM since theres is artificially constructed restriction.
Saying something like this : Be a good boy and abide by our rules or else you wont get to acess your paid games/DLC

Of course that is DRM. The whole point is that Tesla Effect does not use that aspect of Steam, it is DRM free. I don't know how else to say it to you. Once you download you no longer need Steam to run the game. They could ban you ten minutes later and it wouldn't matter.

Tesla effect does maybe not use a form of DRM but i was speaking generally about steam and not soly based on one game.
One can not claim that the steam client/store is pure DRM free.
That was my point.
Maybe a bad argument, but you cant blame people being sceptic about it since alot of people got burnt by the likes of EA and others when it comes to DRM or client based services.

Have you refreshed your account? You can by clicking here

Holy moly, 15 GB! That's near four times my download cap, and for an indie game.

No, it isn't, as a rather important step has been left out. You also have to run the game at least once with the client installed to finalise the installation, a step that is noted both in the preorder thread, in the DRM free games on steam thread as being essential in general; and indeed in this very thread. That, most definitely, is not the action of a mere download manager as some claim, and most definitively constitutes DRM. If you don't run it without the steam client that first time it will not work. Of course, for a GOG version or a DRM free disk version that step isn't necessary any more than installing extraneous software of any kind is, so it's by no means an inherent factor in installations in general- it's a deliberate behaviour.

Imagine, if you will, that instead of it being called the steam client it was called the securom or tages client and it required you to download via it and run the game at least once with it. Would such behaviour then be regarded as DRM free? Nope, the squeals of outrage would deafen half the planet. Sheesh, Securom launch control which literally checks only the install date, on install, vs release date is (rightly) considered DRM, and its behaviour is far more benign, DRM wise.

People like steam and don't want it to be drm because drm is bad while steam is good, so they'll do anything to avoid that logic disjunction.

And Steam is only "good" because they've bought into it already, and don't want to admit otherwise.

Alot of fanboys also defend Steam/valve.
Its like, mention anything bad about it and you will extremly fast see the knifes and clubs coming out from the fanboy masses.

Steam is ok, but they arent saints and they never will be.

Well, has anybody in this thread talked about the actual game?
I only played a few minutes, but the intro alone was pretty incredible and walking around Chandler Avenue felt really good. Can't wait for the things the game has in store for me. Fans of the old Tex Murphy games will definitely like this game.

That's ok, I'd rather have my games truly DRM-free, i.e. separated download (need Internet connection, sign into GOG or wherever, no mandatory client) that results in a working standalone installer and installation (no need for Internet connection, sign in or client) and be called paranoid than have a company convince me that downloading and installing is one single and inseparable process that requires to sign in, have an active Internet connection and use a mandatory client.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, but I'd appreciate it if you'd also not try to convince me that just because you can back up a folder after you've been through the process I've already described makes games on Steam even technically DRM-free.

And the only reason this sort of posts are made here is because BFG messed up and offer only Steam keys despite their promises and guarantees for truly DRM-free non-Steam alternatives.

Remember that many of us are slowwwwly downloading the game, without much else to do in the meantime.

I'm at 6.77 GB / 14.58 GB right now.


On a side note, for this being a huge FMV game, I'm really surprised that they didn't include video content as a bonus, such as interviews and out-takes and things of video nature.

There will be a documentary for Kickstarter backers later on, I don't know if it will be available for others as well.
During there Twitch stream yesterday the also discussed that they maybe will release some of the outtakes but they don't know anything specific right now - they really concentrated on bringing the game out up to today, nothing else.