None of them, ofc.

That's the joke... partially.

It's become a bit of a "meme" on here. When someone refers to something as being "pure" or "real", that we respond thus. As Vestin has pointed out, it's all a bit silly in its context.

No, I don't know all women, but you don't either. Sexist women are far more common than sexist men are, it's just that with people like you white knighting for them, nobody bothers to look at the statistics and the claims. What's more, it's not like they bother to pretend like they're not sexist, because there's no point, people have been brainwashed to think that women aren't sexist.

No, there isn't strong evidence that women are disadvantaged from birth. Women live longer than men do in any part of the developed world. Here in the US they get twice as many degrees as men do and are grossly underrepresented in the lowest paying and most dangerous professions.

If that's disadvantaged, I'm really curious what your definition of advantaged is, because I do not think it means what you think it means.

What's more, nobody takes abuse of men seriously. Certainly not to the same extent that they take abuse of girls and women seriously. Even though it's barely any more common for men to abuse women than vice versa.
Thank God we have you here to be the judge of who gets it.

It's not like mainstream feminism isn't filled with nutjobs that fail to hold themselves accountable to the same standards to which they try to hold men.

Or, did I miss the outrage over the domestic violence by women on men and the parades in support of father's rights that the women's movement has been organizing?

Who knew that invalidating peer-reviewed studies can be so easy!

Ideal here refers to the average body of realistic video game characters. It is unattainable for most women, because it is too far removed from a healthy non-obese female body. It is not the case for the average body of male video game characters.

Darn it, didn't get that reference. Oh well...

And your point is? Women didn't start becoming insecure about their bodies with the invention of video games, movies or other mass media. Unless you'd care to supply some actual evidence that this is the case.

Personally, I find all this begging the question reasoning to be pretty ridiculous.

I'm curious, if peer-reviewed research does not constitute as actual evidence, then what does?

As I posted earlier: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-009-9683-8

Lol, no shit. If someone questioned me about my masculinity immediately after me watching Terminator / Predator I would probably respond differently than after watching Mr. Bean.

And women wearing corsets centuries ago probably also were influenced by mass media... Women colouring their hai blonde with bird guano ages ago probably were influenced by barbie stereotype.

Don't be ridiculous. However, I think that all those Greek statues depicting perfect male bodies may have resulted from the emergence of video games. Oh wait!

Well, in a way, yeah: conformity in sex appeal is one of the most universal behaviors.

"media" is just the latest tool in pushing conformity.

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not that crushing your intestines into your ribcage or saturating your hair with feces is all that healthy, but the main issue with modern sexualized conformist media is that it is intentionally damaging to self esteem so women buy into consumerist horse shit and buy the fuck out of makup and idiotic clothing.

That type of shit doesn't really work on the general male population because we are so so arrogant, self righteous, and oblivious we either don't notice when someone is trying to subtly undermine our self image or think they are talking about someone else ... however we are pretty lazy and easily amused so we get escapism delivered to us on a platter (Sports on TV, Action movies, violent Videogames, porn).

*edit #2*
So, yeah, in the old days Men actually had to go beat the shit out of someone / murder someone to be "Manly" & Women really did have worry about their attractiveness because with the way laws were at the time the only thing protecting them from being rape-enslave-murdered was getting taken in by the biggest billy bad ass around.

The end goal actually was fucking, not just the mental appeal of thinking you are a great fuck, since male security was in producing offspring & female security was in being an appealing medium for it.

If you look at the over all sex appeal of cultures before the Victorian times, the high mark in sex appeal was big fat chicks who could fuck a lot and spit a kid down her birthing canal like a water slide.

Good thing though, that michelangelo's sculptures had small dicks!

I didn't ask for these powers...

Honestly - do you expect me to believe a study that SUGGESTS that playing games causes men to outright support rape? As in - I and people like me are supposedly potential rapists. Not in the general, philosophical "oh - a murderer is a man just like you", but in a more down-to-earth "you are a man just like a rapist... except you haven't raped anyone... yet". Is this the level of academic discourse that I am supposed to accept, and the sort of claims I am supposed to believe in?
Either the study is right, and it's a goddamn rapefest over there, total societal collapse with what few people remain safe writing and publishing studies on gender issues, or the issue is embellished as hell.
Think about this - A LOT of people play games. The claim is that a lot of them (although - only men are mentioned for whatever reason) support or at least don't mind rape. That's an ENORMOUS chunk of the population. If the claim is true, you should be able to go over there, rape someone in broad daylight and brofist the onlookers once you're done. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE.

Hold on - since when does "ideal" mean "AVERAGE in fiction"? That doesn't sound right...

The study doesn't actually say that anywhere. Correlation does not imply causation. It merely mentions another study that found a positive correlation while discussing what research has been conducted before on the topic of gender and media.

Considering the viewpoint espoused earlier in this thread that rape victims kind of have it coming to them, I would not say it is that far fetched. The correlation, I mean.

It doesn't mean literally an ideal body, it refers to a body ideal, the body ideal being in the form of averaged measurements of fictional characters encountered in video games.

You mean it works only for women like women are so naive? Men buy tons of shit they don't even need because media are praying on men's love for vanities. Electronics, cars, hair products, body building products are shoved down our throatrs and we don't even notice.

Different kind of products, the same result.