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Posted December 01, 2013
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keeveek: At the same time, this is the cover of one of the best s-f books I've read in my entire life:
http://www.illustration-fantasy.com/cache/655_595lem-solaris-book-cover.jpg
Well, to be fair, the original cover was better. :D
Posted December 01, 2013
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Melhelix: Might I interest you with http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=242 She actually does a quite a few of these. :D
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keeveek: Literally judging books by their covers :P

What I meant though, I wonder if the publisher knows the book isn't very good, but they think it will sell for some other reasons, if that means they would invest more money into fancy cover or not.

I know they did something similar in Poland with Metro 2034, which is shitty beyond imagination and much, much shorter than Metro 2033, but they made wider margins, bigger font and shoved empty pages after every chapter so the book appeared just as big as the first part. The price was also the same.

People were screwed by the publisher who sold them a nicely packaged turd.

At the same time, this is the cover of one of the best s-f books I've read in my entire life:

http://www.illustration-fantasy.com/cache/655_595lem-solaris-book-cover.jpg
Oh sure! Publishers will do practically anything to sell more books. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at a cover as at this. I don't quite remember that scene.
Posted December 01, 2013
Relevant to the thread at large: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/4719-Gender-Games
Posted December 02, 2013
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Mrstarker: Relevant to the thread at large: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/4719-Gender-Games
The pictures in this video are all Japanese video game characters. These videos all fail to even mention that. The problem people are having is with Japanese culture. Japan is the biggest maker and consumer of boob warriors. It's not even about video games just look at the way anime and manga is drawn. If you don't want boob warriors your gonna have to socially engineer the entire Asian market into not buying it. I'd say It's a clash of cultures more than anything.
Posted December 02, 2013
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Alfie3000: The pictures in this video are all Japanese video game characters. These videos all fail to even mention that. The problem people are having is with Japanese culture. Japan is the biggest maker and consumer of boob warriors. It's not even about video games just look at the way anime and manga is drawn. If you don't want boob warriors your gonna have to socially engineer the entire Asian market into not buying it. I'd say It's a clash of cultures more than anything.
Kinda ironic how narrow minded his views are in a show called "Big picture".
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Melhelix: Oh sure! Publishers will do practically anything to sell more books. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at a cover as at this. I don't quite remember that scene.
Books based on video games sucks so bad... I've read a few oft hem and still haven't found even one decent...
Post edited December 02, 2013 by keeveek
Posted December 02, 2013
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Posted December 02, 2013
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Alfie3000: The pictures in this video are all Japanese video game characters. These videos all fail to even mention that. The problem people are having is with Japanese culture. Japan is the biggest maker and consumer of boob warriors. It's not even about video games just look at the way anime and manga is drawn. If you don't want boob warriors your gonna have to socially engineer the entire Asian market into not buying it. I'd say It's a clash of cultures more than anything.
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keeveek: Kinda ironic how narrow minded his views are in a show called "Big picture".
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Melhelix: Oh sure! Publishers will do practically anything to sell more books. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at a cover as at I don't quite remember that scene. <a href="http://www.gog.com/forum/general_archive/rockpapersocialjustice_is_at_it_again/post737" class="link_arrow"></a></div><div class="small_avatar_2_h"><img src="/upload/avatars/2013/12/0944aa350973b693aea266d1b0eae565ed38d690_t.jpg" width="16" height="16" alt="avatar" /></div><span class="quot_text"><span class="quot_user_name">keeveek: </span></span>Books based on video games sucks so bad... I've read a few oft hem and still haven't found even one decent... <a href="http://www.gog.com/forum/general_archive/rockpapersocialjustice_is_at_it_again/post740" class="link_arrow"></a></div> Heh, my point was they quite literally slapped a modern cover on [url=http://www.fullbooks.com/Dante-s-Inferno1.html]The Inferno by Dante Alighieri, from 1314 A.D, part of The Divine Comedy. It was hilarious. It was honestly The Inferno, with nothing changed, nothing added to the poem. How they got away with it is baffling. And if someone picked it up expecting to read about cleaving demon skulls with a massive scythe they would be sorely disappointed. :P
Posted December 02, 2013
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Melhelix: According to the study Sexual abuse in a national survey of adult men and women: prevalence, characteristics, and risk factors done by Finkelhor D, Hotaling G, Lewis IA, and Smith C. in 1990, 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men are sexually assaulted before they are 18.
These figures... I just.... How?

Might as well live in an anarchic wasteland, because hey it's not like it can get any worse at this point plus no taxes is pretty sweet.

with these numbers it's not rape anymore, it's a national hobby.
Post edited December 02, 2013 by WBGhiro
Posted December 02, 2013
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Alfie3000: The pictures in this video are all Japanese video game characters. These videos all fail to even mention that. The problem people are having is with Japanese culture. Japan is the biggest maker and consumer of boob warriors. It's not even about video games just look at the way anime and manga is drawn. If you don't want boob warriors your gonna have to socially engineer the entire Asian market into not buying it. I'd say It's a clash of cultures more than anything.
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keeveek: Kinda ironic how narrow minded his views are in a show called "Big picture".
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Melhelix: Oh sure! Publishers will do practically anything to sell more books. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard at a cover as at this. I don't quite remember that scene.
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keeveek: Books based on video games sucks so bad... I've read a few oft hem and still haven't found even one decent...
Diablo and Mass Effect books weren't bad, actually.
Posted December 02, 2013
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Melhelix: According to the study Sexual abuse in a national survey of adult men and women: prevalence, characteristics, and risk factors done by Finkelhor D, Hotaling G, Lewis IA, and Smith C. in 1990, 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men are sexually assaulted before they are 18.
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WBGhiro: These figures... I just.... How?

Might as well live in an anarchic wasteland, because hey it's not like it can get any worse at this point plus no taxes is pretty sweet.

with these numbers it'sw not rape anymore, it's a national hobby.
Don't worry too much, the male statistics don't matter so that cuts down the national average!
Posted December 02, 2013
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Melhelix: Heh, my point was they quite literally slapped a modern cover on The Inferno by Dante Alighieri, from 1314 A.D, part of The Divine Comedy. It was hilarious. It was honestly The Inferno, with nothing changed, nothing added to the poem. How they got away with it is baffling. And if someone picked it up expecting to read about cleaving demon skulls with a massive scythe they would be sorely disappointed. :P
Oh, so they publish Divine comedy in parts? In Poland it's always in one tome, so I assumed it's a boko based on a game, not the original part of Divine Comedy...

Now it's even funnier, thanks :D

btw. to slap EA logo on Dante Alighieri's work... He's probably spinning in his grave :P

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LiquidOxygen80: Diablo and Mass Effect books weren't bad, actually.
Mass Effect books suck monkey balls. I mean, I only read the first one, because I couldn't take it anymore.

The same goes with Dragon Age books. Diablo ones I don't know, they were published around when Baldur's Gate books were publish and they were the worst piece of shit ever created :P
Post edited December 02, 2013 by keeveek
Posted December 02, 2013
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Melhelix: Heh, my point was they quite literally slapped a modern cover on The Inferno by Dante Alighieri, from 1314 A.D, part of The Divine Comedy. It was hilarious. It was honestly The Inferno, with nothing changed, nothing added to the poem. How they got away with it is baffling. And if someone picked it up expecting to read about cleaving demon skulls with a massive scythe they would be sorely disappointed. :P
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keeveek: Oh, so they publish Divine comedy in parts? In Poland it's always in one tome, so I assumed it's a boko based on a game, not the original part of Divine Comedy...

Now it's even funnier, thanks :D
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LiquidOxygen80: Diablo and Mass Effect books weren't bad, actually.
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keeveek: Mass Effect books suck monkey balls. I mean, I only read the first one, because I couldn't take it anymore.

The same goes with Dragon Age books. Diablo ones I don't know, they were published around when Baldur's Gate books were publish and they were the worst piece of shit ever created :P
Quick question from someone who's never played the game, does the main character actually go around bare chested with a painted cross and what looks like the result of an accident during olympic ribbon twirling tryouts? He looks like he's trying way too hard to be some super cool Christian version of Kratos.
Posted December 02, 2013
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Crosmando: http://i.imgur.com/JRvlzVW.png
The whole "debate" over this whole thing summed up in one picture
Posted December 02, 2013
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Crosmando: ... How is that "serious journalism", unless RPS has suddenly rebranded themselves from a game news site to a political advocacy blog without me noticing, they should be asking questions about ~gameplay~. ...
I think they just should ask interesting questions and the question for the reason of overly sexualized content is quite interesting.

You cannot really separate entertainment and politics. Games are always also a social medium and they must reference to the real world somehow and also to matters of politics. Writing about this can interest gamers as well. They will still be a gaming site, even if they would write about the political implications of gaming.

It might not be interesting for everyone but judging by the size of the discussion it actually is quite interesting.
Post edited December 02, 2013 by Trilarion
Posted December 02, 2013
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Crosmando: http://i.imgur.com/JRvlzVW.png
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Roman5: The whole "debate" over this whole thing summed up in one picture
It does highlight the ridiculous double standards of the modern world doesn't it?

It's like those "revenge porn" websites. If a guy puts up a picture of a girl, it's outrageous. If a girl puts up a picture of a guy, all her friends are "You go girl!"
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