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Wishbone: That is a unique and exclusive feature. For console gamers, the option of buying a dedicated hardware platform for it makes it a viable alternative to the existing consoles.
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Arkose: Yes and no. Those wanting a console (or equivalent) that runs the latest big-budget multi-platform games won't be seriously considering the Steam Box since it doesn't have any of those games (due to running Linux).

Consoles have weak catalogues at launch but that's offset by the promise of major publisher support in the following months. There is no such promise for the Steam Box and Linux.
But that's precisely what Valve are hoping! Forget for a sec that it's Linux and just think of it like a new console. The challenge is going to be the same as any new console: trying to convince publishers to make games f0r it. Microsoft managed it. Valve is hoping that Steam has the clout to do the same.

Now the fact it is a Linux PC makes it much easier to port games to then if it were an entirely new OS. It also means there is a (small) back catalogue which might give them a leg up and help prove the concept to publishers.

I don;t know if they'll succeed but it's not a stupid idea.
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silviucc: Scenario: You have Mass Effect 2 on your PC but you want to be able to play it in front of your TV sitting on the couch.
I'm already doing that with my PC, without any streaming.

Like Arkose mentioned, there'd have to be something special in the Steam box why I'd want to get it instead of a generic PC. Does it offer more performance per buck (ie. a similarly specced PC will be far more expensive), or other perks? I presume it doesn't come with preloaded Windows, so if I want to play Windows games too, I presume I would have to buy Windows for it separately for big bucks? (OEM Windows that comes preloaded is considerably cheaper, I think.)
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silviucc: Scenario: You have Mass Effect 2 on your PC but you want to be able to play it in front of your TV sitting on the couch.
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timppu: I'm already doing that with my PC, without any streaming.
Have you read this post?

I think that only advantage of steam machine - it's small and portable, and take less place in your living room. Moving your desktop PC to play on TV is inconvenient.
Just because *you* don't have a use case for it does not mean that nobody else won't either.

Seems to me like you're not able to see the forest because you're standing too close to a tree.
Backwards compatibility ftw, I would buy one :)
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timppu: I'm already doing that with my PC, without any streaming.
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silviucc: Have you read this post?

I think that only advantage of steam machine - it's small and portable, and take less place in your living room. Moving your desktop PC to play on TV is inconvenient.
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silviucc: Just because *you* don't have a use case for it does not mean that nobody else won't either.
You were aware that there are already PCs in other form factors other than just big towers, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_form_factor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_form_factor

It just depends how much modularity and expandability you want for your system. SteamBox doesn't change that. If before SteamBox you have only bought the biggest desktop tower PCs you can find, that has been only your choice.
Post edited December 25, 2013 by timppu
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silviucc: Quickly, let's tell that to the people playing racing games and sports games.
You mean those playing online with their friend over the Internet ?

I never said that peoples never used split screen or weren't interested in it when they have friends visiting them, just that nowadays it is much less important and much less a selling factors than in the old days where it was the only way to play multi-players games.
Post edited December 25, 2013 by Gersen
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koima57: With a Steam Box around 500€ I would pass, 300 maybe consider..I don't see it make a real commercial success, Linux limited games and not sure of prices are the two downers yet, IMHO.
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silviucc: It's not "linux limited". You will be able to stream games from your PC to it.

Scenario: You have Mass Effect 2 on your PC but you want to be able to play it in front of your TV sitting on the couch. With an Xbone or PS4 you'd have to buy the game again, but not with a Steam Machine.

Also, keep in mind that this thing already has more games running on it natively than either the Xbone or the PS4

LE: Ofc I meant ME2 not 3 which is only on Origin
Oh right, it can stream also.. But my internet is meh, no fiber where I live yet.. Just maybe around 300€ and a wide range of my games work, and a quite better setting than I already have and I just might get one.
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koima57: Oh right, it can stream also.. But my internet is meh, no fiber where I live yet.. Just maybe around 300€ and a wide range of my games work, and a quite better setting than I already have and I just might get one.
The streaming is local only so it doesn't use bandwidth for that.
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silviucc: Quickly, let's tell that to the people playing racing games and sports games.
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Gersen: You mean those playing online with their friend over the Internet ?
No, I meant those that go to their friends' house and have fun. You know people still do that...

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timppu: You were aware that there are already PCs in other form factors other than just big towers, right?
You are aware that not everybody builds their own rigs, right? And even if there are pre-made systems, they are still marketed as boring "personal computers" not "steam machines".

I won't buy one, I'll make my own. You won't buy one... plenty of people might.
Post edited December 26, 2013 by silviucc