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This is no giveaway but also no vent, just an opinion. My impression is that the occurence of insults has increased and that the quality of the discussions suffers from it. This will or has already lead to the emigration of the more sensitive part of the crowd. And it should also result in less interesting discussions. I wouldn't like both.

I wonder how the number of customers of GOG relates to the number of active community members, if they both increase accordingly or not. And I wonder if maybe the number of active community memberts was even bigger at some point in history.

I think what has to be done is that everybody reduces a bit how important the own opinions are perceived as well as the eagerness to use insulting statements has to be reduced. Also stepping of peers in the obvious cases might do some good.

Thanks for the attentiion!
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Trilarion: This is no giveaway but also no vent, just an opinion. My impression is that the occurence of insults has increased and that the quality of the discussions suffers from it. This will or has already lead to the emigration of the more sensitive part of the crowd. And it should also result in less interesting discussions. I wouldn't like both.

I wonder how the number of customers of GOG relates to the number of active community members, if they both increase accordingly or not. And I wonder if maybe the number of active community memberts was even bigger at some point in history.

I think what has to be done is that everybody reduces a bit how important the own opinions are perceived as well as the eagerness to use insulting statements has to be reduced. Also stepping of peers in the obvious cases might do some good.

Thanks for the attentiion!
GOG is an open forum and not moderated (unless in extreme cases as far as i know). People say what they want. Most people are courteous but i haven't seen anyone really be rude rude so to say. Are you sure your not thin skinned ?
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Trilarion: This is no giveaway but also no vent, just an opinion. My impression is that the occurence of insults has increased and that the quality of the discussions suffers from it. This will or has already lead to the emigration of the more sensitive part of the crowd. And it should also result in less interesting discussions. I wouldn't like both.

I wonder how the number of customers of GOG relates to the number of active community members, if they both increase accordingly or not. And I wonder if maybe the number of active community memberts was even bigger at some point in history.

I think what has to be done is that everybody reduces a bit how important the own opinions are perceived as well as the eagerness to use insulting statements has to be reduced. Also stepping of peers in the obvious cases might do some good.

Thanks for the attentiion!
You need to go back to Club Penguin buddy. You spineless excuse for a gamer.
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That's not been my perception. I know certain people get called out on hypocrisy a fair bit, but these forums are on the whole pretty civil. If you want insults, you need look no further than the Steam community forums - pretty nasty place to be at the best of times, although with the sheer number of people coming in and going out of there, that's probably no wonder (nothing to do with Steam itself, before anyone brings that up).

Regarding that minority of cases where flamewars do flare up, there's one thing you have to consider. GOG is first and foremost about DRM-free. Classic games is essentially just a side effect of this, because these were the only properties that publishers were willing to risk going DRM-free on to begin with. Most sites now do classic releases.

Consequently, the GOG forums have essentially become a hub for people who want DRM freedom. If you don't agree with this, then there's always the Steam forums or Reddit. No harm, no foul. Heck, the GOG forums are a nice place to be even if you're fairly ambivalent about the whole DRM topic.

But coming in with the attitude of wanting to show all these "DRM-free hipsters" and "pirates" how they're being "unrealistic" and whatever else is akin to barging into a church and screaming that God doesn't exist. This is a gathering of people who have an interest in DRM-free, so people shouldn't wonder if people react with a certain degree of hostility to having their views ridiculed.

If I've been hostile to anyone here in the past, it's because (a) I don't appreciate being dictated to regarding what I do with my own stuff and (b) I don't appreciate my views being ridiculed. Objectively criticised, sure, and I've had some interesting discussions with people on various topics here, but not put down simply for not conforming to the norm, which is what the likes of SimonG have been notorious for doing in the past.

The wonderful thing about the GOG forums is that we have such a diversity of views. Not everything is black and white. A few abide by a strict anti-DRM policy, others are very pro-Steam/Origin/Uplay. The majority sit somewhere in the middle.
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nijuu: ...Are you sure your not thin skinned ?
I think I'm somewhere in the middle. But there surely are thin skinned people out there who probably are also quite precious to the community. Lately I've seen people insulting others just on the basis that opinions difffer and while I never called for any moderation and never will because just going somewhere else is the far easier solution, I think that the negative implications of such behavior like lower quality of the discussion, lower attractiveness of the community are there. Being aware of it and stepping in in some cases is what we can do... in case we want to change anything.
Post edited December 14, 2013 by Trilarion
GOG forum is the nicest forum I have ever seen. Obviously you haven't visited much other forums if you think insulting here is bad xD
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lettmon: GOG forum is the nicest forum I have ever seen. Obviously you haven't visited much other forums if you think insulting here is bad xD
IE Steam forums.And people know i speak the truth about that..
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Trilarion: This is no giveaway but also no vent, just an opinion. My impression is that the occurence of insults has increased and that the quality of the discussions suffers from it. This will or has already lead to the emigration of the more sensitive part of the crowd. And it should also result in less interesting discussions. I wouldn't like both.

I wonder how the number of customers of GOG relates to the number of active community members, if they both increase accordingly or not. And I wonder if maybe the number of active community memberts was even bigger at some point in history.

I think what has to be done is that everybody reduces a bit how important the own opinions are perceived as well as the eagerness to use insulting statements has to be reduced. Also stepping of peers in the obvious cases might do some good.

Thanks for the attentiion!
I don't see a problem with the emigration of the more sensitive part of the crowd because sensitivity does not = interesting discussions like you say and it's only natural that the level of insulting has increased. This time of the year is the most stressful time of the year and life is just getting harder and harder for most people. SOME people like to unleash stress by turning other people into punching bags. And you have to realize that with each passing day, GOG attracts new people to this forum. So the community gets bigger and bigger with each passing day. That means a community with people from all over the world with different cultures with different values etc and people just naturally do not get along with those, so different from them. And also, the bigger the population here, the less people feel the need to be nice. People start to seem like strangers... My point is, there is nothing we can do to make people nicer to each other here.
Post edited December 14, 2013 by monkeydelarge
Suppose i am reading different threads than OP.
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Reported for wrongly accusing the entire community.
I've read a lot on these forums, but I almost never participate in discussions. This is because this must be the calmest and most sedate place I've found on the internet, to the point where it's almost dull to discuss here because there's never any arguing.
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stressthesky: I've read a lot on these forums, but I almost never participate in discussions. This is because this must be the calmest and most sedate place I've found on the internet, to the point where it's almost dull to discuss here because there's never any arguing.
There is a lot of arguing, you just have to find the the right threads. Instead of having 1000 battles, a day here, we have like a bloody war every once in awhile in a thread(usually about something many people are passionate about like DRM, feminism etc).
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jamyskis: That's not been my perception. I know certain people get called out on hypocrisy a fair bit, but these forums are on the whole pretty civil. If you want insults, you need look no further than the Steam community forums - pretty nasty place to be at the best of times, although with the sheer number of people coming in and going out of there, that's probably no wonder (nothing to do with Steam itself, before anyone brings that up).

Regarding that minority of cases where flamewars do flare up, there's one thing you have to consider. GOG is first and foremost about DRM-free. Classic games is essentially just a side effect of this, because these were the only properties that publishers were willing to risk going DRM-free on to begin with. Most sites now do classic releases.

Consequently, the GOG forums have essentially become a hub for people who want DRM freedom. If you don't agree with this, then there's always the Steam forums or Reddit. No harm, no foul. Heck, the GOG forums are a nice place to be even if you're fairly ambivalent about the whole DRM topic.

But coming in with the attitude of wanting to show all these "DRM-free hipsters" and "pirates" how they're being "unrealistic" and whatever else is akin to barging into a church and screaming that God doesn't exist. This is a gathering of people who have an interest in DRM-free, so people shouldn't wonder if people react with a certain degree of hostility to having their views ridiculed.

If I've been hostile to anyone here in the past, it's because (a) I don't appreciate being dictated to regarding what I do with my own stuff and (b) I don't appreciate my views being ridiculed. Objectively criticised, sure, and I've had some interesting discussions with people on various topics here, but not put down simply for not conforming to the norm, which is what the likes of SimonG have been notorious for doing in the past.

The wonderful thing about the GOG forums is that we have such a diversity of views. Not everything is black and white. A few abide by a strict anti-DRM policy, others are very pro-Steam/Origin/Uplay. The majority sit somewhere in the middle.
Steam "community", ahahhaahaha. Comparing this forum to the Steam forums is like comparing Disneyland to Somalia.
Post edited December 14, 2013 by monkeydelarge
I have no idea what OP is talking about. Didn't notice anything like this. Also I see nothing wrong with steam forums but I rarely use them so whatever.
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monkeydelarge: Steam "community", ahahhaahaha. Comparing this forum to the Steam forums is like comparing Disneyland to Somalia.
Judging by the Steam "community", as you said, that I am in, the proper comparison would be a fun pub to have a drink or two and talk about interesting stuff to a shit hole that kings every now and then drop coins while taking a shit.

The first being that Steam "community", the second being this place. And no, giveaways != good community. That thing died years ago.

Go ahead and downrep me, it is always fun.
Post edited December 14, 2013 by Elenarie
Yeah... sometimes it gets a bit rough. And it is a good thing that it does. These forum are one of these rare places in which I see discussions starting out mean, turning into trolling and countertrolling, become even more nasty and then turning around into something more meaningful and ending with some kind of understanding or at least a agree to disagree moment.

People usually respect each other here even if they are at polar opposite worldviews sometimes. This is something that cannot be archived if everything gets locked down and deleted as soon as it even smells like somebody could get his feeling hurt.

Also it occasional weeds out the pseudo politically correct permanent morally outraged out of habit riffraff.
Post edited December 14, 2013 by anothername