I'm genuinely asking! I bought a DVD trilogy with two films and some kind of other disc in there. I'm just curious.

That is the James Cameron "Setting The Bar" 5 hr long edition.

I doubt Prometheus will ever get a directors cut. The film is a nothing more than a bloody travesty.

Basically what he did was

1. let it conveniently slip out that a new alien film was coming out
2. disclaim the above
3. wait for the fans to flock

He did a great job with Alien, but it was a great idea long before he got it. When he did get it, he did it brilliantly. He's responsible for probably one of the most famous and scariest moments in cinema, along with an iconic film.

What did he do with Prometheus?

Fuck all.

All we got was another voyage story (that was already done), a very confusing prequel mythology (BUT IT WASN'T A NEW ALIEN FILM, HONEST) and then some revisited horror through the chest with a bloody portable medical device. Not to mention some bullshit open ending for what will inevitably be another spin off from the alien franchise.

I am sorry but Prometheus is just a bad, bad film.

I think Prometheus is underrated, honestly.

Sure, it's loaded with plot holes. I wouldn't say it's great by any stretch. But the cinematography and acting are good, and honestly I think there's a weird Twin Peaks -esque charm to its meandering script.

Again, not saying it's great, but enjoyed it and wouldn't mind watching it again.

I just now saw a commercial for "Exodus" and at first I thought it was a joke, like one of those commercials that starts out as one thing and then turns into something else. When I finally realized it was an actual commercial for a movie I thought Good lord that looks horrendous.

I looked it up. It doesn't look *that* bad imo, average Hollywood grade movie that'll get its 4-6/10 rating. It's just that we don't really need yet another iteration of Moses when our current technology/minds don't have anything to add to make it better than the previous ones. It's probably riding on the Noah train/boat.

But Hollywood is about money and not quality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PCtIaM_GQ - This is a video about Jackie Chan that explains some of the differences in both methodology and ideology of what makes great movies. It's really revealing in my opinion.

I guessed from the title that this thread would be inspired by the Escapist article by MovieBob, but I haven't read it. Nowadays I avoid giving that guy any views. So I can't speak to the what's in the links you provided.


Still, my opinion on Ridley Scott is that he doesn't seem to do very well chasing his past successes. Robin Hood seemed to want to be some kind of medieval version of Gladiator, and Prometheus fashioned itself as an Alien prequel, and both ended up feeling a bit misguided in their efforts. Perhaps if he focused on something completely new again he'd fare better.

I used to consider myself a big fan of Ridley Scott, but I've been so disappointed with his movies, and his decisions the last few years that I really can't call myself that.
Among other things, Prometheus was an incredible disappointment. I never once went in considering it was an alien prequel or anything like that, I just thought it was a terrible movie. The acting and visuals were nice, but plot, story, and direction were severely lacking.

Also he keeps talking about making a Bladerunner sequel (or prequel), which is basically the worst idea one could ever have. Bladerunner is one of my favourite films ever! Leave it alone man! Leave it alone!!

1492 was as historical as Dirty Harry. The only thing that is good about that movie is the score by Vangelis and Sigorney Weaver as queen Isabel.

Ridley Scott has made exactly 2 good movies, many mediocre ones and some really really bad ones.

He is one of the most overrated directors, not quite as overrated as hacks like Tarantino, but he's up there. People, if you are complaining about this Exodus movie, you've only got yourself to blame because you keep propping Scott up and paying money to see his awful movies.

That is just your opinion pal. I have enjoyed a large majority of his movies. I could say the same for Tarantino also, if it is not your cup of tea just say that. Stop spewing your opinion like it is fact.

Honestly, he's been going downhill since The Duellists.
It hasn't been such a fast descent as with the last few years, but not even Blade Runner tops that one film. He cashed all his chips too early is what happened, I think.

EDIT: I want to edit this, after thinking a bit more I actually do think Blade Runner does top Duellists, even if it's not an original script. Still, besides that one anomaly, downhill.

Thelma and Louise is not the film of a director who is going downhill. Nor is Legend. Nor, for that matter, is Blackhawk Down, which is not only an intense and intricate combat film, but also a really disturbing meditation on armament and power, and the hands into which the means of destruction is so casually deployed.

I suspect that Hannibal and Prometheus may have far longer lives and much greater worth than we give them now. We won't know for another decade, at least. The Duellists is a spectacular film - one of my Shakespeare teachers, Diana Quick, played Laura in it - and it is nearly completely unknown in the United States. It has little to do with his reputation in this country.

Ridley Scott is an enduring artist for good reason. People are welcome to dislike his films, so go right ahead. It doesn't lessen their quality.

Edit: changed confusing pronoun

This. Most of his failures are due to terrible writing. But let's be honest, he's always been hit or miss. His resume is all over the place.

I'm not sure I see what was so wrong with the trailer? The corny singing aside, it doesn't look that bad to me... then again I have strange taste in movies.

What about Martin Scorsese?

He is the only one thats still making good movies and I loved the Wolf of Wal Street.