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VausG: Obsidian already was on the list of studios where the Ship of Theseus thought experiment applies after all.
Even before the Microsoft buyout.
Very true, very few original planks left in what we call Obsidian today.
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idbeholdME: Regarding the game itself - reviews are out and seems like a yet another "maybe on a sale" material at best.
Good to know but sad because the trailer looked interesting.
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idbeholdME: Regarding the game itself - reviews are out and seems like a yet another "maybe on a sale" material at best.

And especially the first 3 minutes of this review are quite concerning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWrDkijow48
Not sure where you get these reviews from, so far what i have seen is that the game is good. Some tehncical ptoblems, yes, but ,ehe, it is obsidion. Almost all reviews i have seen preaise the actual game play and the combat system, what mostly get some negative comments is that the main quest line and the characters is a bit bland. So a good game, but wiht a story that is not everybodys cup of tea.

Gameranx before you buy, summs it up well, i think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVsodeOW2k
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botan9386: "Avowed" is one of the bigger releases people are looking at this month, turns out they're selling a "physical edition" that comes with a steel book disc case...But no disc. What do you get? A digital download code, even if you're on an Xbox console. £90, by the way.
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FarkFarkBarkBark: And then if you lose access to your account (like forgetting your pwd and not having or recalling the needed security info to get back into said account) that game copy is gone into the digital ether :\
Is this why you have a new account every two days? Forgetting passwords all the time? That's terrible.
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amok: Some tehncical ptoblems, yes, but ,ehe, it is obsidion.
While that one is of course bad, I'm more concerned about the "don't talk about this cause we know it's buggy/broken" part. Perfectly checks out with the game director stating on cam "expect some jank". Not really excusable at this price ($70), no matter how you view it, sorry.

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amok: Almost all reviews i have seen preaise the actual game play and the combat system, what mostly get some negative comments is that the main quest line and the characters is a bit bland. So a good game, but wiht a story that is not everybodys cup of tea.
Gman Lives or MrMattyPlays both say the game is average to "good enough" at best. Have at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGD1qJ9a1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpo4EqhF-Fk

My impression from overall reviews is way more split. And these are early access reviews, so any praise is to be taken with a grain of salt by default (access media and all) but I think the game is once again going to land in the 6-7 territory, once it releases to the masses, if I had to guess from what I've seen shown of the game.

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amok: Not sure where you get these reviews from
A complex magic ritual, involving the Youtube searchbar, a keyboard (physical or virtual, both work) and performing special gestures with your fingers. Advanced magicians could perform the spell by incanting a magical formula "Avowed review" with their commanding voice and bypass the finger gesture and keyboard reqirement, if they so desire. Not guaranteed to work, especially for beginner spellcasters, but the rewards are usually worth the effort.
Post edited February 14, 2025 by idbeholdME
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amok: Not sure where you get these reviews from
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idbeholdME: A complex magic ritual, involving the Youtube searchbar, a keyboard (physical or virtual, both work) and performing special gestures with your fingers. Advanced magicians could perform the spell by incanting a magical formula "Avowed review" with their commanding voice and bypass the finger gesture and keyboard reqirement, if they so desire. Not guaranteed to work, especially for beginner spellcasters, but the rewards are usually worth the effort.
Completely random.
Not even read the whole thread, but thanks for making me laugh. :P
Post edited February 14, 2025 by .Keys
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idbeholdME: My impression from overall reviews is way more split. And these are early access reviews, so any praise is to be taken with a grain of salt by default (access media and all) but I think the game is once again going to land in the 6-7 territory, once it releases to the masses, if I had to guess from what I've seen shown of the game.
"If they say bad stuff, I agree, if they say good stuff, I disagree"
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amok: Almost all reviews i have seen preaise the actual game play and the combat system, what mostly get some negative comments is that the main quest line and the characters is a bit bland. So a good game, but wiht a story that is not everybodys cup of tea.
On the other side wasn't the story and characters supposed to be Obsidian forte ?

I mean New Vegas is not praised for its incredible combat system. If anything I would say reviews saying that the writing is bland are a lot more worrying for me than reports that the game is currently a soft lock galore broken mess.
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amok: Some tehncical ptoblems, yes, but ,ehe, it is obsidion.
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idbeholdME: While that one is of course bad, I'm more concerned about the "don't talk about this cause we know it's buggy/broken" part. Perfectly checks out with the game director stating on cam "expect some jank". Not really excusable at this price ($70), no matter how you view it, sorry.
I got the impression that the embargo was due to the zones being later in the game, and there was / is a general embargo on all late content to avoid spoilers. AFAIK there is still embargo on other zones as well, which is not broken
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amok: Almost all reviews i have seen preaise the actual game play and the combat system, what mostly get some negative comments is that the main quest line and the characters is a bit bland. So a good game, but wiht a story that is not everybodys cup of tea.
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Gersen: On the other side wasn't the story and characters supposed to be Obsidian forte ?

I mean New Vegas is not praised for its incredible combat system. If anything I would say reviews saying that the writing is bland are a lot more worrying for me than reports that the game is currently a soft lock galore broken mess.
it was, yes, but the people who made those game are no longer there. What I get from this is that this is a well made open world RPG, with a bit meh main story and some tech issues that needs to be sorted out.

I am not a person that usually play games for the story, I have books and films for that. So for me, this sounds like a perfect match, just a good open world to mess around with and with an interesting combat system. so i will probably get it when they have shifted some pathes to fix the bugs.

And i thank all the ...umm... good people? who pay £20 more for the oppertunity to find those bugs before I get the game. Cheers
Post edited February 14, 2025 by amok
None of them do anymore. What's the point?

I still love my Wasteland 3 diorama. That Scorpitron guards my office well.

Nobody messes with me when they look on my shelf and see that bad boy sitting there glaring at them.
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amok: I am not a person that usually play games for the story, I have books and films for that. So for me, this sounds like a perfect match, just a good open world to mess around with and with an interesting combat system. so i will probably get it when they have shifted some pathes to fix the bugs.
I don't know, while I would agree for a platformer, souls like, third person action game, personally I consider that story is pretty important in a RPG, that's why I rarely finish recent Bethesda games, I get too bored with the story before reaching the end. I was hopping Avowed to be the next New Vegas, not the next Starfield. I will wait for it to appear on Gog to decide if I play it or not...
When the latest backed-by-a-corporation-worth-a-couple-trillion and DEI/ESG-conform slop gets shown up by close to decade(s)-old open world aRPGs it tries to emulate but absolutely and utterly fails to do so, especially in regards to key aspects like immersion or reactivity:

Avowed vs Oblivion - Attention to details
Avowed vs Skyrim - Attention to details
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viperfdl: On the other hand: most people have less power than they think and are constantly bombarded with propaganda which results in them just giving up and trying to enjoy what little they have...
Bread and circuses. Still waitin for someone to say the modern day equivalent of "let them eat cake".
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seskzklk: When the latest backed-by-a-corporation-worth-a-couple-trillion and DEI/ESG-conform slop gets shown up by close to decade(s)-old open world aRPGs it tries to emulate but absolutely and utterly fails to do so, especially in regards to key aspects like immersion or reactivity:

Avowed vs Oblivion - Attention to details
Avowed vs Skyrim - Attention to details
You must live a sad life
Honestly, looking at it from the outside, Avowed seems to be even more of an aggressively mid rpg than The Outer Worlds.

I looked a few times at The Outer Worlds over time when looking for something new to play and there was nothing pulling me in. Eventually i got a free copy and, sure enough, i put it down after just a few hours in because there was nothing there for me. I honestly don't understand how the game got any traction to begin with, whatever hook folks found in it to make them care about the world, story, etc., simple didn't do it for me.

Avowed seems worse all across the border except maybe for a less claustrophobic game world. I dunno, i guess it really is one of those "not for me" type of deal.