The Brotherhood comes almost villainous in New Vegas as well, and they don't feel different in Fallout 4 which was the main inspiration so they got that one right.

Sounds like a good radio opera version based on the current show. Maybe like one of those about the Silver Shroud.

The Brotherhood in the show seems much different from the NV Brotherhood or even Fallout 4 Brotherhood. There was no "medieval knight and squire system" before as far as I can remember. Can't remember squires calling a simple Knight "My Lord" LOL. The strict Brotherhood codex demands from squires to watch and learn from the best when they go on a mission with the Brotherhood Knights. Fallout series shows Brotherhood as kind of an army boot camp with some strange traditions: medieval knight-peasant relationship, knights claiming squires as their own property etc. My guess is that the scriptwriter of the Fallout show wasn't familiar with the Brotherhood before.

Youi don't say... To clarify, I meant specifically in that they are still almost a villainous group in Fallout 4.

Out topic - I got an ich to replay Fallout 2 again. Does anybody knows what are optimal Tag skills in that game? Speech + Lockpicking + Weapon Skill?

Oh I see. Probably you're right and they have the same level of "villainy" in this show as well.

Depends on how much you want to power game and optimize.

Avoid putting points into anything a skill book exists for. Some merchants will restock them and you can raise the relevant skills to 91% (or more, if you do some SPECIAL lowering shenanigans with drugs/alcohol).

Generally, you should tag stuff you want to pump as high as possible or want to have high right from the start. Those are mainly weapon skills. Other skills can generally stay at the thresholds to unlock the perks you want or stop at 100, with a couple exceptions.

Speech is a good pick if you want to have the most dialogue options from the start and it's a skill that is always relevant.

Barter can speed up how fast you reach the point when money becomes a non-issue, but it will happen even without investing into the skill, just a bit later.

One weapon skill which you mainly want to focus on is a good idea. Usually either Energy Weapons or Big Guns. Or both if you don't want to be bound to one weapon type.

Not sure if Lockipck is worth tagging, as there are items which can give you up to +40% to the skill. But you won't get those right away, so depends on if you want to unlock everything right away or don't mind backtracking. If you are going to tag only one weapon, Lockpick is a good tag.

OR

You can go the least travelled route, supposing you already played the game before. Play as a character with 1 Intelligence and enjoy an entirely new experience where you can ignore speech completely :P

Well, I finally sat through the first episode, and I don't feel much inclined to watch the rest, at least any time soon. It's not terrible, but also nothing particularly good. I'm just not much invested in any of it. Most of it, the Lucy/Vault part, was just too whimsical for me. Sure, there was always an absurdist and humorous aspect to Fallout, but here I felt more like I was watching something like Kingsman.

I am also absolutely sick of the songs. I don't think they went more than five minutes without another one. I don't hate the songs themselves, and had no problem with them at the start, but they absolutely overused them.

On one hand, I agree, because it does sound like way more interesting way to structure the story and reveal the world. In particular I think they made a dreadful mistake by cutting to the Brotherhood of Steel for a while during what was otheriwse Lucy's segment, because it kinda ruined the "leaving the Vault moment". It's just not nearly as powerful a scene when we, the audience, have already been outside, and know there is a semblence of a normal-ish life going on. It should be a moment of going into the totally unknown, especially for the audience that doesn't know the games.

On the other hand, I like the part with Maximus more. It had a better, more serious tone, had some decent original music instead of just torturing the 50s songs. That said, I honestly don't much care for either Luxy or Maximus right now. The Ghoul seems like the most interesting of the three, so of course he got by far the least screentime.

I don't know, maybe I'll be back to the show after I'm done rewatching Babylon 5, but for now it just left me mostly indifferent.

Absolutely agreed. Imagine if they used music similar to the actually sinister, mostly ambient F1 or F2 soundtracks in the show, which sell the feeling of actually being in the radioactive wasteland so well. Would completely change the atmosphere of it. Both F1 and F2 have exactly one oldie track, which don't even play in the games themselves but only during intros.

But Bethesda wants to keep pushing the "wacky stuff and oldies music" as THE Fallout vibe.

Just as much as they want to push the fantastical fantasy elements out of the Elder Scrolls series. Intellegent talking ape men? What intelligent talking ape men?

Timothy Cain (who was the creator and lead designer of Fallout, the first original game) have made a short video / review of the tv series. He liked it. He find the tv-series managed to feel like Fallout, that it feelt like a game, and the "lore drops",and the lack of straight out expositions, and how the three main characters are almost archetypes of how players play a game like this (Lucy - the good player, Max - utilitarian player, The Ghoul - the murderhobo)

He also talk a bit about the lore itself and his oppinion on the lore. he do not have much problem with it

it is a good watch in any case


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFBLAbwMA0

I'd be very surprised he say otherwise. I believe that everyone who has been invited to the show premiere had a very good impression afterwards.

Ok, so I have watched all eight episodes now.
And I really liked what I saw.
My anticipation for season 2 is heightened.

Tim Cain always has been too conflict-averse resp. "too nice" to blisteringly criticise/tear something to shreds he's not agreeing with, even or especially when in presence of two of the defilers instrumental in bringing the Fallout franchise to the pitiful state it's in these days. Of course "he liked it".

https://i.imgur.com/Pr6zfiw.jpeg

The great Fallout Debate. Or more just discussing the goods and bads of the show.

Includes: Critical Drinker, MauLer, Nerderotic, Reaper, and Lance Steen Anthony Nielsen.

You'd be surprised of my tolerance of retardation - The Critical Drinker


Anyways, listening to them talking about it, it sounds like there's a lot of plot holes and issues with stupid writing.

Or maybe, just maybe, and I know I am stretching reality quite a lot here but just roll with it for a moment. Maybe, he just liked it at that was his oppinion?

weird thought, I know, blew my mind when it came to me

FFS!
And I'm quoting this for the history books given you have zero understanding.
I found episode 2 to be letdown after 1 - do you think the series improves as it goes?
(please be as spoiler free as possible).
I was invited but didnt go.