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Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: But hey, maybe this is GOG's way of telling linux users that they're not important enough to be treated with common courtesy anymore.
What in the name of almighty fuck does not tiptoeing around XP have to do with Linux?
Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: But hey, maybe this is GOG's way of telling linux users that they're not important enough to be treated with common courtesy anymore.
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tammerwhisk: What in the name of almighty fuck does not tiptoeing around XP have to do with Linux?
You mean you haven't noticed that *all* of the XP users here are linux users?

Seriously, man -- read for comprehension.
Posted June 12, 2017
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tammerwhisk: What in the name of almighty fuck does not tiptoeing around XP have to do with Linux?
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richlind33: You mean you haven't noticed that *all* of the XP users here are linux users?

Seriously, man -- read for comprehension.
If anything it's just a small demographic of paranoid stalwarts around here.

Someone truly interested in the technical/developmental aspects of Linux isn't going to want anything to do with the archaic XP.
Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: You mean you haven't noticed that *all* of the XP users here are linux users?

Seriously, man -- read for comprehension.
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tammerwhisk: If anything it's just a small demographic of paranoid stalwarts around here.

Someone truly interested in the technical/developmental aspects of Linux isn't going to want anything to do with the archaic XP.
This will probably come as a shock, but I think they're a tad more interested in the technical/developmental aspects of............gaming. o.O
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Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: I know that isn't you, and that you don't give a fook about their gaming experience, but I think it's time for you and the other hive-minded loudmouths to stop repeating yourselves over, and over, and over, ad nauseum. Furthermore, I think it's pretty low to jump on someone just because they aren't doing things the way you think they ought to be done. I know it's become cool to treat gays and lesbians more humanely, but it'd be a lot more cool if you lot could bring yourselves to extend this courtesy universally. If nothing else, you'd look a lot less like pseudo-progressive hypocrites.

Lastly, there's a big difference between wanting a company to not break compatibility if it isn't necessary, and wanting a company to provide "support". But hey, maybe this is GOG's way of telling linux users that they're not important enough to be treated with common courtesy anymore. Or maybe GOG is just incredibly dysfunctional and is struggling to get it's shit together. Whichever the case may be, the level of dishonesty I'm seeing in this ongoing discussion re installers and sleazy marketing practices, and now compatibility, tells me that this isn't a good place for anyone who likes to avoid being in toxic environments. Which is actually quite fine, because there are far more pressing things going on in this fucked up world of ours.
Windows XP is no longer supported by Microsoft. It no longer has a backer.

Nobody will fix the bugs. Nobody will work on drivers to make sure things run with the latest hardware and libraries. There isn't even a point of reference for the latest stable version (no telling people they need to upgrade, they can't), nothing.

Supporting it (really supporting it, not just claiming to) would be a black hole that would suck endless support and dev resources. Really, most companies with a lick of common sense know better than to support proprietary software that is no longer supported by its owner. If you think otherwise, go ask Steam to fix a problem you are having with a game specific to Windows XP and watch them either brush you off or update the game info to remove mention of XP support (and if they are really nice, give you a refund while they are at it).

If you want seemless free version updates, use Linux and stick with the games that run on it. Otherwise, just give Microsoft 100$-200$ every couple of years and upgrade your Windows.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by Magnitus
Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: I know that isn't you, and that you don't give a fook about their gaming experience, but I think it's time for you and the other hive-minded loudmouths to stop repeating yourselves over, and over, and over, ad nauseum. Furthermore, I think it's pretty low to jump on someone just because they aren't doing things the way you think they ought to be done. I know it's become cool to treat gays and lesbians more humanely, but it'd be a lot more cool if you lot could bring yourselves to extend this courtesy universally. If nothing else, you'd look a lot less like pseudo-progressive hypocrites.

Lastly, there's a big difference between wanting a company to not break compatibility if it isn't necessary, and wanting a company to provide "support". But hey, maybe this is GOG's way of telling linux users that they're not important enough to be treated with common courtesy anymore. Or maybe GOG is just incredibly dysfunctional and is struggling to get it's shit together. Whichever the case may be, the level of dishonesty I'm seeing in this ongoing discussion re installers and sleazy marketing practices, and now compatibility, tells me that this isn't a good place for anyone who likes to avoid being in toxic environments. Which is actually quite fine, because there are far more pressing things going on in this fucked up world of ours.
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Magnitus: Windows XP is no longer supported by Microsoft. It no longer has a backer.

Nobody will fix the bugs. Nobody will work on drivers to make sure things run with the latest hardware and libraries. There isn't even a point of reference for the latest stable version (no telling people they need to upgrade, they can't), nothing.

Supporting it would be a black hole that would suck endless support and dev resources.

If you want seemless free updates, use Linux and stick with the games that run on it. Otherwise, just give Microsoft 100$-200$ every couple of years and upgrade your Windows.
It doesn't need a backer, and it certainly doesn't need anything more from Microshite. And it doesn't need support from GOG, either. But it sure would be sweet if the ham-handed carnts that run this joint didn't break shit in their mad rush to foist their crappy client on the mopes that support this dump with their hard-earned dosh.
Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: It doesn't need a backer, and it certainly doesn't need anything more from Microshite. And it doesn't need support from GOG, either. But it sure would be sweet if the ham-handed carnts that run this joint didn't break shit in their mad rush to foist their crappy client on the mopes that support this dump with their hard-earned dosh.
Well, that's another story entirely.

While I agree that they shouldn't go out of their way to break it, I don't think they should claim to support it either.

At this point, Windows XP should be: If it works, good for you, but if it doesn't, we made no claims about supporting it and it's not a valid cause for refunds.
Posted June 12, 2017
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tammerwhisk: If anything it's just a small demographic of paranoid stalwarts around here.

Someone truly interested in the technical/developmental aspects of Linux isn't going to want anything to do with the archaic XP.
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richlind33: This will probably come as a shock, but I think they're a tad more interested in the technical/developmental aspects of............gaming. o.O
Look you were acting like they were throwing Linux users under the base by not giving a fig about your ancient copy of XP. That's patently false, it's not even related. So drop the condescending bull.
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richlind33: But it sure would be sweet if the ham-handed carnts that run this joint didn't break shit in their mad rush to foist their crappy client on the mopes that support this dump with their hard-earned dosh.
Contrary to what you might think, XP is far enough out of date in all areas that it's not exactly hard to break stuff for it just by not catering to it.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by tammerwhisk
Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: This will probably come as a shock, but I think they're a tad more interested in the technical/developmental aspects of............gaming. o.O
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tammerwhisk: Look you were acting like they were throwing Linux users under the base by not giving a fig about your ancient copy of XP. That's patently false, it's not even related. So drop the condescending bull.
That's quite enough, I think!
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richlind33: But it sure would be sweet if the ham-handed carnts that run this joint didn't break shit in their mad rush to foist their crappy client on the mopes that support this dump with their hard-earned dosh.
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tammerwhisk: Contrary to what you might think, XP is far enough out of date in all areas that it's not exactly hard to break stuff for it just by not catering to it.
Yeah, just like the mopes are too dopey to download Galaxy without having GOG hold it for them, right? lol
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Post edited June 12, 2017 by richlind33
Posted June 12, 2017
For a time comparison, complaining about XP not being accounted for in any shape or form now... would be like complaining about Windows 2.0 back when XP released.
Posted June 12, 2017
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richlind33: It doesn't need a backer, and it certainly doesn't need anything more from Microshite. And it doesn't need support from GOG, either. But it sure would be sweet if the ham-handed carnts that run this joint didn't break shit in their mad rush to foist their crappy client on the mopes that support this dump with their hard-earned dosh.
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Magnitus: Well, that's another story entirely.

While I agree that they shouldn't go out of their way to break it, I don't think they should claim to support it either.

At this point, Windows XP should be: If it works, good for you, but if it doesn't, we made no claims about supporting it and it's not a valid cause for refunds.
It works perfectly for what these people are using it for, but GOG doesn't seem to go out of it's way for linux users in general, nor the people that don't want their crummy client.
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tammerwhisk: For a time comparison, complaining about XP not being accounted for in any shape or form now... would be like complaining about Windows 2.0 back when XP released.
The asshats that work in Redmond would certainly agree with you.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by richlind33
Posted June 12, 2017
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tammerwhisk: An OS that every other company has abandoned providing any support for eons ago.
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tammerwhisk: Someone truly interested in the technical/developmental aspects of Linux isn't going to want anything to do with the archaic XP.
I know that you like to hear yourself talk, but maybe you should listen to others once in a while, otherwise you wouldn't repeat such BS over and over again.

This list shows, that it is still supported by companies:
https://www.gog.com/mix/games_that_have_windows_xp_support_elsewhere

This post that was just mentioned to you explains the connection to Linux gaming:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/good_news_galaxydll_breaks_xpcompatibility_in_good_old_games/post44

This post explains the connection to performance upsides in bare (offline) XP thanks to small overhead (also since you can deactivate all anti-virus software and other processes in a bare-bones XP):
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gogmix_games_that_have_windows_xp_support_elsewhere/post32

Now please stop spamming and start listening now and then.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by Klumpen0815
Posted June 12, 2017
To put it another way worrying about XP in anyway shape or form is... utterly pointless. It won't be too long before the only way XP will work is in a virtual machine. Without hardware or driver support it's days are completely numbered since hardware does not last forever. And at that time the stalwarts will either need to turn their focus on getting shit running under Linux... Or bite the bullet and get a supported version of Windows.

Most effective way to preserve media and software? Focus on getting it working under modern technology. Focusing on the original hardware or OSs is a complete dead-end.

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Klumpen0815: This list shows, that it is still supported by companies:
https://www.gog.com/mix/games_that_have_windows_xp_support_elsewhere
Your list is crap.

It's not supported, it just might run in some cases. Hope you know though that XP isn't supported at all by the Steam client. So if/when Valve changes anything on the backend (assuming they haven't yet) none of that shit will function at all in any shape or form.
Post edited June 12, 2017 by tammerwhisk
Posted June 12, 2017
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My bad XP is supported at the moment... ish. Only service pack 2 or above works with Steam... which sooner or later will be phased out.

Plus Steam oughta be a no go for some of you any way, since people have been asserting that "it's just for offline gaming"... Yeah that's sooooo compatible with Steam.
Posted June 12, 2017
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tammerwhisk: And at that time the stalwarts will either need to turn their focus on getting shit running under Linux... Or bite the bullet and get a supported version of Windows.
Personally, I'm hoping that once a critical mass of casual users (Window's core audience for the home PC) have completely switched over to smart-phones and tablets (a market in which Windows has only a tiny slice of the pie), the remaining mass of PC gamers will become too insignificant for Microsoft to pay much attention to.

At that point, I'd presume Microsoft would mostly focus on corporate desktop users (selling copies of Office, Visual Studio and the like), Xboxes and maybe pursue their ill-fated attempt to dominate the server world.

At that point, maybe Linux can really start to fill up the void left by Windows in PC gaming. It already has a foothold there and it's open and free (meaning anybody can pick up the puck as shown by Steam).
Post edited June 12, 2017 by Magnitus
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