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neumi5694: Some kids shoot their sisters with a gun and expect her to stand back up.
Yeah that was horrible.

But parents are responsible for their kids' education and helping them make sense of the world, what is real and what is not real.

Also don't have guns in the house, especially accessible to children.

When I last checked, most babies knew what a breast looked like and its primary function.

I'm not saying adult games are appropriate for children, or even adults.

Nor am I saying I'm happy at the proliferation of (mostly low quality) adult games on GOG and the periods during the year in which they're pushed.

I'm saying the banners/advertisements on the homepage are not going to traumatise children who see them at a glance.
Post edited October 06, 2022 by lupineshadow
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lupineshadow: Does that help the debate in any way?
Not really, that's comparing apple and oranges, there is a big difference between pretending to shoot somebody with a finger gun and exploding somebody body in photo realistic bloody gibs.

And on the other way the visible "porno" part here is a bunch of covered anime or 3D rendered boobies with nothing more explicit than what kids can see everyday in clothing magazines or ads.

If Gog was displaying explicit sex scene on the front page or even in the game page screen shots then maybe the "think of the children" argument might have had some weight to it but it's not the case.
Post edited October 06, 2022 by Gersen
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lupineshadow: I'm not saying adult games are appropriate for children, or even adults.
Didn't want to imply that you did, that was some general thoughts to your statement

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lupineshadow: I'm saying the banners/advertisements on the homepage are not going to traumatise children who see them at a glance.
I see we understand each other. Except for very few people here, most seem to be ok with the way it currently works.

I would like a configurable filter very much (not just tag based, but also per game), but I doubt that GOG has the manpower to implement that anytime soon.
I just don't see any need for hiding adult games in general for being adult games. Their banners are really harmless. Most of the time one has to check twice if it's a Zelda style RPG or a adult VN, they both look the same. Anime TV shows for kids shown in the afternoon are more explicit.



Btw, if any kids are reading this: Do not jump on turtles, they don't drop any coins!.
Post edited October 06, 2022 by neumi5694
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neumi5694: If we stick to the boobies and girls are bad argment.
That's my one real issue with all of this, the characters in games generally seem to be designed because men want to be them or men want to look at them.

But yeah, I'd happily avoid most of the games you linked (got three Tomb Raider games recently though).
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HappyPunkPotato: That's my one real issue with all of this, the characters in games generally seem to be designed because men want to be them or men want to look at them.
That's true because except for mobile puzzle players most gamers are still male and you sell what people like to look at.
(with exceptions: In SWG we had plenty of women)

About 20 years ago a german game magazine (PC Action) for about one or two years sold their magazines with two cover variants: One with some game art and the other with a model cosplaying a game character or a game inspired character (a girl in a silver space suit and a light saber, a Command&Conquer Tanya cosplay model and so on) and also featured that model in the test to the game. Guess which variant was sold more often :) But they stoped that experiment after that.
https://www.pcgamesdatabase.de/magazine/pcaction/pcaction_2001_07_big.jpg
https://www.pcgamesdatabase.de/magazine/pcaction/pcaction_2002_03_big.jpg
I kept the Article with the Jedi Outcast test, it was just too silly.

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HappyPunkPotato: But yeah, I'd happily avoid most of the games you linked (got three Tomb Raider games recently though).
I got Tomb Raider and Blood Rayne, I am not interested in the others (but not because of the images, the games are just not for me).
Post edited October 06, 2022 by neumi5694
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neumi5694: That's true because except for mobile puzzle players most gamers are still male and you sell what people like to look at.

About 20 years ago a german game magazine (PC Action) for about one or two years sold their magazines with two cover variants
That doesn't make it not rubbish though. I'd probably avoid buying either version of the magazine if I saw the one with the "sexy" cover (but I'm an odd one). Did they not do a cover that was designed to appeal to straight women?
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HappyPunkPotato: That doesn't make it not rubbish though. I'd probably avoid buying either version of the magazine if I saw the one with the "sexy" cover (but I'm an odd one). Did they not do a cover that was designed to appeal to straight women?
No, they just wanted to increase sales. But after all I know it's mostly guys who are homophobic anyway.

The numbers didn't go up significantly however, as far as I can tell. Some artworks are a lot cheaper than hiring the staff for a photoshoot.
Post edited October 06, 2022 by neumi5694
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HappyPunkPotato: That doesn't make it not rubbish though. I'd probably avoid buying either version of the magazine if I saw the one with the "sexy" cover (but I'm an odd one). Did they not do a cover that was designed to appeal to straight women?
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neumi5694: No, they just wanted to increase sales. But after all I know it's mostly guys who are homophobic anyway.

The numbers didn't go up significantly however, as far as I can tell. Some artworks are a lot cheaper than hiring the staff for a photoshoot.
"homophobic"? How is homophobia somehow related to what they were talking about?
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neumi5694: No, they just wanted to increase sales. But after all I know it's mostly guys who are homophobic anyway.

The numbers didn't go up significantly however, as far as I can tell. Some artworks are a lot cheaper than hiring the staff for a photoshoot.
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FrostburnPhoenix: "homophobic"? How is homophobia somehow related to what they were talking about?
Who's "they"? It was me and that other person who talked about the magazine covers.
But I think you'll agree that most guys would rather avoid a game magazine with a sexy man on the cover.
Post edited October 06, 2022 by neumi5694
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FrostburnPhoenix: "homophobic"? How is homophobia somehow related to what they were talking about?
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neumi5694: Who's "they"? It was me and that other person who talked about the magazine covers.
But I think you'll agree that most guys would rather avoid a game magazine with a sexy man on the cover.
That may or may not be true but that isn't homophobia.
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neumi5694: Who's "they"? It was me and that other person who talked about the magazine covers.
But I think you'll agree that most guys would rather avoid a game magazine with a sexy man on the cover.
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FrostburnPhoenix: That may or may not be true but that isn't homophobia.
I admit, the choice of words was not optimal, but please give me a better term then, I am eager to learn.
Post edited October 06, 2022 by neumi5694
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lupineshadow: Does that help the debate in any way?
Not really, as female intimate parts are some of the first things a child sees when growing up, even up till the latter stages of childhood (obviously dependant on the parenting given)...
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neumi5694: I admit, the choice of words was not optimal, but please give me a better term then, I am eager to learn.
Disinterest? I'm as likely to avoid a magazine with a "sexy" man on the cover as I am to avoid one with a sports car on the cover. I don't have a "carphobia", it simply implies contents I have no interest in.
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neumi5694: I admit, the choice of words was not optimal, but please give me a better term then, I am eager to learn.
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Breja: Disinterest? I'm as likely to avoid a magazine with a "sexy" man on the cover as I am to avoid one with a sports car on the cover. I don't have a "carphobia", it simply implies contents I have no interest in.
Dunno, if you lose interest in the content (the short discussion was about game magazines that for a certain time female models on their cover to increase sales) because of that man where you would be interested otherwise, then I think it doesn't describe it properly.

But nevermind, it was a off topic discussion anyway, sorry about that.
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Breja: Disinterest? I'm as likely to avoid a magazine with a "sexy" man on the cover as I am to avoid one with a sports car on the cover. I don't have a "carphobia", it simply implies contents I have no interest in.
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neumi5694: Dunno, if you lose interest in the content (the short discussion was about game magazines that for a certain time female models on their cover to increase sales) because of that man where you would be interested otherwise, then I think it doesn't describe it properly.
Congratulations, that is a masterclass in completely misrepresenting what I just said.