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Marioface5: What's wrong with DotEmu?
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Foxhack: Let's see. Low quality audio sampling, stuttering, freezing, achievement bugs, improper scaling, and a refusal to fix long standing bugs in their games? Oh and all their previous NeoGeo "ports" were ANDROID TO PC PORTS. They're not even NATIVE PC PORTS.

DotEmu is one of a few companies that I would much rather not give any money to, EVER.
Yeah, I was excited about the new additions to pc in this bundle until I saw that DotEmu was involved. Their emulation of that Irem arcade pack they did was awful. That was enough for me.
Post edited December 09, 2015 by haydenaurion
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SCPM: Just tested Metal Slug, I can't play the roms in either MAME or NeoRageX, both complain about missing rom components. Which wouldn't be so bad if the emulation itself in this version weren't so sluggish when there's multiple objects on-screen despite my computer being able to play modern games with all the works turned on. Even the Tages-infested retail Anthology version ran smoothly on my old Windows XP machine. =\
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Shendue: Bought it for the legal rights to own the ROMs. The emulation is god awful.
You two are making me sad. I may do it anyway.

KOF 14 looks like it's going to be a tragedy as well. I really wish the SNK fighters had been treated better over the years and had a brighter future. Some of the SNK characters are fantastic, but the current IP holders don't seem to be capable of doing much beyond trying milking the brand.
Post edited December 09, 2015 by gooberking
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dutchexcalibur: The DRM-free Windows version of Metal Slug 3 that was promised back for the PC & Android 10 in June 2014 has finally arrived. If you bought that bundle, you should see the Windows download now.
Fucking hell, finally. I must have written to them five times about that. Where the hell was it?
So I uh. I looked at one of the games in the bundle... and DotEmu used a modified version of Nebula (a freeware emulator) as a basis for their own one. It also has um. Um. Gametap stuff.

https://twitter.com/Foxhack/status/674371627103096832

https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi/status/674402562498387968

https://twitter.com/Phase4_/status/674411081360535552
...

This can't be real. It just CAN'T. Be real.
Post edited December 09, 2015 by Foxhack
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Foxhack: So I uh. I looked at one of the games in the bundle... and DotEmu used a modified version of Nebula (a freeware emulator) as a basis for their own one. It also has um. Um. Gametap stuff.

https://twitter.com/Foxhack/status/674371627103096832

https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi/status/674402562498387968

https://twitter.com/Phase4_/status/674411081360535552
...

This can't be real. It just CAN'T. Be real.
So they basically ripped off Digital Eclipse's emulator they used for the long defunct Gametap? Christ...
Just to put a stop to the speculation, I tested Metal Slug and Garou a few moments ago. Both run perfectly under MAME. I would be greatly surprised if the same didn't hold for the other games, sans the Steam-only, WIndows-only two. The ROM sizes roughly match the ahoy-matey copies, 13 and 80 MB, respectively.
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hyperagathon: Just to put a stop to the speculation, I tested Metal Slug and Garou a few moments ago. Both run perfectly under MAME. I would be greatly surprised if the same didn't hold for the other games, sans the Steam-only, WIndows-only two. The ROM sizes roughly match the ahoy-matey copies, 13 and 80 MB, respectively.
What do you need to do to set it up? I'm obviously not too savvy with this stuff.
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hyperagathon: Just to put a stop to the speculation, I tested Metal Slug and Garou a few moments ago. Both run perfectly under MAME. I would be greatly surprised if the same didn't hold for the other games, sans the Steam-only, WIndows-only two. The ROM sizes roughly match the ahoy-matey copies, 13 and 80 MB, respectively.
Thank you for weighing in! It's good to know they are working well at least in one confirmed setup.
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hyperagathon: Just to put a stop to the speculation, I tested Metal Slug and Garou a few moments ago. Both run perfectly under MAME. I would be greatly surprised if the same didn't hold for the other games, sans the Steam-only, WIndows-only two. The ROM sizes roughly match the ahoy-matey copies, 13 and 80 MB, respectively.
Well that's great news because that means there's hope. However, it isn't working for me OotB. Anything special about your setup?
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Darling_Jimmy: Well that's great news because that means there's hope. However, it isn't working for me OotB. Anything special about your setup?
Not at all. How did you run it? I did

$ sdlmame -rp $(pwd)

because it was being stubborn about relative paths. If I had to guess, you copied it somewhere where it doesn't see the NeoGeo BIOS - in my case, it shows up alongside the game.

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Attached screenshot.
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SCPM: What do you need to do to set it up? I'm obviously not too savvy with this stuff.
Somehow your post didn't show up for me until now, sorry. There's nothing special about it, unpack what you get from Humble, it'll contain the game ROM and the NeoGeo BIOS. Copy to your dedicated ROM folder or point MAME (or whatever emulator you're using) to it.
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Post edited December 09, 2015 by hyperagathon
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hyperagathon: Not at all. How did you run it? I did

$ sdlmame -rp $(pwd)

because it was being stubborn about relative paths. If I had to guess, you copied it somewhere where it doesn't see the NeoGeo BIOS - in my case, it shows up alongside the game.

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Attached screenshot.
Oh, right; I forgot it needed that. Still no luck when I copy everything to the ROM folder though.
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hyperagathon: Somehow your post didn't show up for me until now, sorry. There's nothing special about it, unpack what you get from Humble, it'll contain the game ROM and the NeoGeo BIOS. Copy to your dedicated ROM folder or point MAME (or whatever emulator you're using) to it.
Alright, thanks. I know the rom's pretty much the same as the old file, I just need to figure out what I'm doing wrong this time. I never really used MAME, and I was using the same old version of NeoRageX for years.
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Darling_Jimmy: Oh, right; I forgot it needed that. Still no luck when I copy everything to the ROM folder though.
Did you copy the provided BIOS as well?

It might have to do something with the version of MAME. Mine is pretty old (0.145u4), as the newer ones simply stopped working for me.
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Darling_Jimmy: Oh, right; I forgot it needed that. Still no luck when I copy everything to the ROM folder though.
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hyperagathon: Did you copy the provided BIOS as well?

It might have to do something with the version of MAME. Mine is pretty old (0.145u4), as the newer ones simply stopped working for me.
That did the trick! Downloaded v0.145
Thanks.
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synfresh: Because emulation of the roms isn't legal if you don't own the original games? Isn't this the same argument as abandonware?
If copyright was a more reasonable length, then owning the original games wouldn't matter. Since i've been watching a few Adam Ruins everything, this one comes up that's related. The whole reason to have such a long copyright is to milk something as long as possible, since at what point does copyright extending 70 years after you die help you financially? (I suppose you could Will it to your children... or grand children...)
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PookaMustard: Is this some kind of joke? NeoGAF doesn't accept GMail or Hotmail? You know, the email services that the MAJORITY uses?
When a large majority of spammers are using such emails, it's easier to ban the domain.

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amok: is this your only reply ever on any humble bundle? You are indeed a broken record. I wonder why you even bother read these threads.

22 games for $10. DRM free and Linux. Classic games. Awful indeed. The only reason not to pick this up is if you do not like NeoGeo - but that does not make it awful.
As much as i love seeing every game entry as DRM-free, i can't justify buying the bundle myself as i can't see myself playing ANY of these games. Maybe 10-15 years ago when i played this stuff a lot more, or as a teen. But now?

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gooberking: What is with this browser "preview" thing? How are these versions made and how does that translate into it being fed into a browser for taking a test drive? "DRM-Free" or not, I'm not interested in anything that is tied to a browser. I'm only interested if package is is self reliant.
Far more likely they have an emulator that can run on flash or something, and it loads the emulator and either a stripped version of the rom or the entire thing (not like they are going to be that big...). Think of it like watching YouTube videos, there isn't a custom player made for every video, instead there's one player that acts as a middleman and it's told which video to access..
Post edited December 09, 2015 by rtcvb32