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KiliKelvin: How's your project going? For your consideration:

[i]Sony has announced it will end its recordable Blu-ray Disc media production in February, marking the end of its nearly two-decade run. This end-of-production announcement also affects MiniDiscs for recording, MD data for recording, and MiniDV cassettes.

The company ended the production of recordable consumer Blu-ray and optical disks in mid-2024, indicating it would retain production lines for business and corporate clients until it became unprofitable. However, as the general public prefers streaming services over physical media, commercial sales have quickly become insufficient to sustain Sony’s optical media business.[/i]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/after-18-years-blu-ray-media-production-draws-to-a-close-sony-shuts-its-last-factory-in-feb

While this announcement signals a significant change in the landscape of physical media, it does not spell the end for Blu-ray and DVDs entirely. However, it's wise to stock up on these products while they are still available
Alas, like so much done in these times, there is that silly short term thinking.

I foresee a time where the glamour of streaming wears off, probably already started with the rise of subscription costs and limiting users, and also the threat of shows no longer being published on disc.

When something new happens, a lot of folk try it out, and when that happens other stuff or formats suffer for a while.

The most obvious one in our past, is CD sales dropping in number. They just flat out blamed piracy, when I know from personal experience, it was folk like me with a limited budget, spending money on the newer DVDs instead or at least buying less CDs. DVD sales were of course through the roof, due to a good drop in price for many of them.

Money doesn't grow on trees, and it is about time many businesses understood that, and adjusted their approach, especially pricing.

Look at the stupid situation that is developing now with video streaming services. No one service provides all, so most folk find they need to get multiple services. That was already damn costly to do, and now they are making it worse, even having a lower cost tier if you can tolerate adverts. At what point do you decide you are no longer getting your money's worth, that you cannot spend all your free time being a couch potato to do so? It has got beyond ridiculous now, with the number of streaming services, all hosting unique stuff, and many shows no longer being published to disc, so streaming in some cases is being forced upon you, as the only way to watch some shows, with the only other option sometimes, to rent or buy a DRM file via a streaming service.

I just hope there will be a significant backlash eventually, that will make the studios and services rethink in our favor.

In reality, that last will probably never happen, because they don't want us to own anything, and for us to have a very limited control of media.
Post edited February 05, 2025 by Timboli
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KiliKelvin: (....)
thank you!
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Timboli: (....)
thank you!

Stocking up on media! But... I don't own any BD recorders yet, and they are already finished!? Dang, late on a party again.... but the drinks! I mean, discs are the best price ever... I just ordered a used BD player xD..... and DVD-+R DL are big enough, 8.5GB, and for some reason, all GOGS installers fit DVD-+R(W) ...... I wouldn't be surprised if that is how GOG keep their own installers.

Coming home from Cex..... https://uk.webuy.com by train choo choo

Found games and movies with DVD and BD in the same box, my fav!
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Post edited February 05, 2025 by solseb
It seems odd to me, to have both Blu-ray and DVD for a PC game in the same case, unless the DVD is for extras or some small overflow.

In fact, unless a console game, it seems counter-intuitive to have a game just on a Blu-ray, because many folk never did have a Blu-ray drive in their PC, and of course the standard now is to not have an optical drive at all, certainly in a laptop.

A game on a Blu-ray, would require at least two DVDs to match, if not three (realistically at least) or more, due to two DVD's worth fitting on a dual layer or double-sided DVD.

Of course, if the primary release is the DVDs, then a Blu-ray is just one disc extra, but an unnecessary additional expense to my mind. It's a bit different for movies, where you just have one disc of either generally.

Any Blu-ray ROM player is of course going to read DVDs as well.

Blu-ray became available in June 2006.
Steam started in 2003 and started supporting 3rd party games in 2005.
So I don't imagine much, game wise, would have come to Blu-ray discs until much later than 2006, certainly for PC games, at which point they would have been competing with the Steam service.
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KiliKelvin: How's your project going? For your consideration:

[i]Sony has announced it will end its recordable Blu-ray Disc media production in February, marking the end of its nearly two-decade run. This end-of-production announcement also affects MiniDiscs for recording, MD data for recording, and MiniDV cassettes.

The company ended the production of recordable consumer Blu-ray and optical disks in mid-2024, indicating it would retain production lines for business and corporate clients until it became unprofitable. However, as the general public prefers streaming services over physical media, commercial sales have quickly become insufficient to sustain Sony’s optical media business.[/i]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/after-18-years-blu-ray-media-production-draws-to-a-close-sony-shuts-its-last-factory-in-feb

While this announcement signals a significant change in the landscape of physical media, it does not spell the end for Blu-ray and DVDs entirely. However, it's wise to stock up on these products while they are still available
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Timboli: Alas, like so much done in these times, there is that silly short term thinking.

I foresee a time where the glamour of streaming wears off, probably already started with the rise of subscription costs and limiting users, and also the threat of shows no longer being published on disc.

When something new happens, a lot of folk try it out, and when that happens other stuff or formats suffer for a while.

The most obvious one in our past, is CD sales dropping in number. They just flat out blamed piracy, when I know from personal experience, it was folk like me with a limited budget, spending money on the newer DVDs instead or at least buying less CDs. DVD sales were of course through the roof, due to a good drop in price for many of them.

Money doesn't grow on trees, and it is about time many businesses understood that, and adjusted their approach, especially pricing.

Look at the stupid situation that is developing now with video streaming services. No one service provides all, so most folk find they need to get multiple services. That was already damn costly to do, and now they are making it worse, even having a lower cost tier if you can tolerate adverts. At what point do you decide you are no longer getting your money's worth, that you cannot spend all your free time being a couch potato to do so? It has got beyond ridiculous now, with the number of streaming services, all hosting unique stuff, and many shows no longer being published to disc, so streaming in some cases is being forced upon you, as the only way to watch some shows, with the only other option sometimes, to rent or buy a DRM file via a streaming service.

I just hope there will be a significant backlash eventually, that will make the studios and services rethink in our favor.

In reality, that last will probably never happen, because they don't want us to own anything, and for us to have a very limited control of media.
Adding to the loss of ownership, we're seeing a major cultural shift towards disposable content. Many young people today don't listen to full music albums. In fact, do they even know what a music album is? Are they familiar with the bonus features on DVDs Blu-rays, like making-of documentaries or director's commentaries? And how many think about selling owned items in the second-hand market to recoup some of the money initially spent on them? This disposable mania means we're losing not only ownership but also a deeper engagement with the media we consume, games included.
Cases like solseb's project are an exception, not the rule
I guess the biggest change, is the huge amount available now to be consumed.
Most folk cannot keep up, especially with the cost, so streaming helps many, though too expensive to cover all your bases.

And because there is so much to consume, most folk are just moving on to the next thing, rather than looking back and revisiting stuff.

I'm no doubt a dinosaur, because I have a house full of bookcases full or books and movies and music and games, and until recent years I always assumed I would be able to pass my stuff onto my kids.

But guess what? They aren't that interested.

Understandable when they have so much at their fingertips now via streaming.

Streaming really is short term thinking though, and once you buy into it enough, it is too costly to get out. For instance, all that music that my kids listen to on Spotify, is no longer theirs to listen to if they cancel their subscription, and so buying it could be very costly and much of it may no longer be available to buy, especially the way things are going control wise.

It's like that monster you created or welcomed into your home. You need to keep feeding it.
Monster likes discs ☺
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Movies and TV series are going for fun too. Finding multiple disc boxes from 1 to 14 in one box.
Buying cheap and refurbishing with own technique.
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the bookcase could be a nice DIY project :-)
Post edited February 16, 2025 by P. Zimerickus
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P. Zimerickus: (....)
It turned out it was : )

Boxes present best when arranged in sections. Four sections carry the necessity of building four bookshelves,
smaller in size and around the room. If you like decorating your room with DVDs, it's fine.

Games found their place above and side of the G90 machine desk. space: 400 boxes
in progress 10%....

Movies below the desk and side to side with games. space: 400 boxes
in progress 82%....

U Rating movies, within the built bookcase, made of recycled burned wood, side of TV, space: 150+ standard Amaray boxes
in progress 70%....

TV series, shows, interactive DVDs and documentaries within the darts side of the nonexistent fireplace. space: 200+ boxes
in progress 20%....

It will be more impressive when completed.

Interesting fact: same size box, perfectly clean, might contain 1 to 5 discs.
Should your space in the bookcase be 800 boxes, with the use of a quintuple box, you could reach 4000 DVDs within the same collection.
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Post edited February 17, 2025 by solseb
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P. Zimerickus: (....)
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solseb: It turned out it was : )

Boxes present best when arranged in sections. Four sections carry the necessity of building four bookshelves,
smaller in size and around the room. If you like decorating your room with DVDs, it's fine.

Games found their place above and side of the G90 machine desk. space: 400 boxes
in progress 10%....

Movies below the desk and side to side with games. space: 400 boxes
in progress 82%....

U Rating movies, within the built bookcase, made of recycled burned wood, side of TV, space: 150+ standard Amaray boxes
in progress 70%....

TV series, shows, interactive DVDs and documentaries within the darts side of the nonexistent fireplace. space: 200+ boxes
in progress 20%....

It will be more impressive when completed.

Interesting fact: same size box, perfectly clean, might contain 1 to 5 discs.
Should your space in the bookcase be 800 boxes, with the use of a quintuple box, you could reach 4000 DVDs within the same collection.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

I want to build a cabinet ;p
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P. Zimerickus: (....)
There is a future in this hobby
https://www.dvdsreleasedates.com/
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/releasedates.php

Publishers just ignored the end of the DVD licence and the decrease in BD production and kept releasing videos.

preorders going as usual
https://hmv.com/store/film-tv/dvd-pre-orders

pc games running too
https://www.blu-ray.com/products/?c=35&show=topsellers
https://uk.webuy.com/search/?categoryIds=956&categoryName=PC+Games

Plus, We can record our own DVDs and print custom art!
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/unofficial_dvd_covers_for_gog_com_games
Post edited 5 days ago by solseb
Hello solseb! Any new updates, anything lined up for this weekend? Greetings!

PS: I also have a decent collection of games, in CD-rom, DVD and big boxes, if I have it organized I will show it to you.
Interesting project.

As a big fan of owning things I've paid for *looks around at fellow GOG denizens* I have a bunch of bookshelves myself. The two in my bedroom are so loaded with books I really should have a third (somewhere in the neighborhood of 700 books at this point), and I'm nearly out of room for DVDs on my other four that live in the computer room.

I've never actually counted the DVDs, but all four of the bookshelves with them are so full that DVDs are stacked laying down on top of each row of standing ones. They're largely in alphabetical order just so I can find whatever I'm looking for, though as I acquire new ones I have to rearrange them sometimes to fit new ones in where they belong. I also have duplicates for a few that I've found better versions of (collectors editions, blu-ray releases, etc) that I haven't yet removed the lesser versions of. The vast majority of these I've bought at a local pawn shop, on the annual statewide garage sale in my state, or from thrift stores. There are a lot I wouldn't have been willing to pay full retail for, but $2 or less is fine. :) I generally only pay full price for ones that are hard to find or newly-released.

Of the four bookshelves, one is exclusively for TV series, and the other three are movies. I have on a couple of rare occasions replaced a complete TV series with a newer release in order to get a much smaller box set that takes up a quarter of the space of the original releases. It really irks me how in the earlier days of DVD, individual TV seasons would often be released in boxes over an inch wide, and then later rereleased in a box set containing the entire series in a box barely larger than one season of the original release.

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Timboli: I'm no doubt a dinosaur, because I have a house full of bookcases full or books and movies and music and games, and until recent years I always assumed I would be able to pass my stuff onto my kids.
If you're a dinosaur, then we'll have to go extinct together. ;) I don't have any kids, and the only people in my family who might want my old games or DVDs might be my cousins, but being the same generation they won't be around much longer than I will. It's too bad, because a few of the things I have physical copies of are actually quite valuable for being rare versions of whatever they are.