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xXShaddowTXx: From the heart, true, and beautiful.

I agree on all points made.


I do want to put one thing into perspective for everybody and I'm happy my post is on the first page so people will read this.

Corporations don't pay attention to one person complaining or suggesting something unless they highly agree, but they DO pay attention to trends. Get enough people to agree on something GOG needs to do or change and they WILL do it if it's possible.
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Aningan: This is funny because it's true.
GOG held a survey, users answered.

Enough users agreed on something (new price points, newer games - indies)

GOG needed to change and they DID

See? What you said is true. Only the result is not what you expected.
The result is not what I wanted.
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Lodium: Do you forget the new games will eventually get old and some of the new games will actually some time turn into classics.
It has happened before, and it will happen again.
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Navagon: I've come across people on these forums that insist that new games will be better five years from now. Yeah...
Maybe in retrospect... you know, in the future, when we'll all be anally probed before starting a game to prevent us from pirating it (it will make sense in context), we'll look fondly on the classics like Duke Nukem Forever and Postal 3 where anal probing was still figurative.
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gameon: Maybe it might be worth doing another survey later this year or something. I'm saying this because the site would have grown by then, and also anyone who missed out last time have the chance to be involved.

personally i missed it. I would have said i was open to newer games (but at a sensible price point).

Does anyone remember what kind of questions were in the survey?
Not quite.
But i remember vague it mentoned sevral price points suggestions.
You coud also write more in depth at the end of the survey i think.
Post edited April 06, 2012 by Lodium
I for one am perfectly happy with newer games, and, yes, I voted for newer games during that survey as well. While I may not be able to run all of them - "Why do you need such a high graphics requirement, Grimrock? Why?" =P - I welcome more games of all shapes and sizes.

Sure, I might own a game like Machinarium twice already (once from the developer, once from Humble Bundle) I still deem it a fine addition. It's definitely one of my favorite indie games of late, and it deserves as much exposure as possible. I'm definitely looking forward to Botanicula and I'll be supporting both the developer and GOG with a purchase of it here. :) I'm also very happy to see the complete HoMM V here. It may not be the best of the series, but it's still a splendid addition. It is without a doubt one of my all-time favorite franchises. As someone else has already mentioned, I hope we'll be seeing Vampire: Bloodlines here soon as well.

All in all, I think it was a sound move. It'll certainly make it even less likely for me to buy games digitally anywhere else, as GOG has already proven to get most of my gaming budget for a while now. I don't mind missing out on the new 'hot' stuff as I've always had the tendency to be behind the times. There's enough great games here to keep me occupied for a very long time.

Plus, not having to worry about clients/activation/install limit bull is probably my most loved feature of the site. Sure, I had no problem with having discs in the drive back in the day because there usually was no way around it, but now that everything's going digital (a trend I very much support) I can and will do without such unnecessary burdens.

/ramble
Post edited April 06, 2012 by wpegg
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TheEnigmaticT: That said, I'll chime in here and repeat what I've said elsewhere: we're committed to at least one classic game release a week. That's a minimum, and we will certainly try to deliver more than one each week.
As this point, you might as well stamp this on the front page in HUGE BIG BOLD BLUE LETTERS.
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wpegg:
I saw what you did there.

You can't hide your shame >:D
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wpegg:
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Titanium: I saw what you did there.

You can't hide your shame >:D
Got it wrong. Still, there was an abuse of the word 'literally'. Just too drunk to actually articulate it.
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Navagon: I've come across people on these forums that insist that new games will be better five years from now. Yeah...
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Vitek: They will if they are made by Paradox Interactive. ;-)
Or by Obsidian ?...

And on that note, I keep hearing how MoO3 is supposed to be one of the best 4X games out there, as long as you apply all of the requisite fan patches.
Post edited April 06, 2012 by rampancy
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Titanium: Maybe in retrospect... you know, in the future, when we'll all be anally probed before starting a game to prevent us from pirating it (it will make sense in context), we'll look fondly on the classics like Duke Nukem Forever and Postal 3 where anal probing was still figurative.
I see what you're saying. But the guy in question didn't come across as being all that... mentally dexterous.
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Titanium: I saw what you did there.

You can't hide your shame >:D
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wpegg: Got it wrong. Still, there was an abuse of the word 'literally'. Just too drunk to actually articulate it.
Literally can't go into, because he literally can't log in.

You think I'm sober right now? Ha

HA!
While changes to something already good naturally worries most people, I'd encourage everyone to just wait a few months to see how the recent changes to GOG look to be shaking out. If there are specific concerns you have at that point then most definitely bring them up here (preferably in as constructive a manner as possible, and with some suggested improvements). In the past GOG has been quite receptive to suggestions made by the community (even if such changes often take a bit of time to implement), and I'm pretty sure we can count on TheEnigmaticT to pass along suggestions that are brought up in the upcoming months.

In short, let's wait and see the shape things end up taking here, then make any relevant suggestions at that point with the goal of helping to make GOG as good as it can be while also moving it forward (rather than just asking it to stay how it used to be with no changes).
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DelusionsBeta: finite resource (old PC games)
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Darling_Jimmy: How is it finite? New games become old games all the time.
In my eyes this ressource is used up once the oldest titles not yet on GOG (aside from those that they just can't get) are from the digital distribution age and are already available everywhere else.

Oh yeah, btw: All guys who read my "open letter" - don't take my post too seriously. It was of course kinda powered by certain emotions that result from the recent changes but of course I was extremely exaggerating (this is called sarcasm). I mostly wanted to underline that some people in the community also pay attention to stuff that GOG itself may not be aware of (and maybe even more people notice it unconsciously) - stuff which is far more abstract than one would expect and might get overlooked by a company that is looking for methods to increase its success. And not being aware of this stuff might backfire. And I also wanted to underline that in my eyes GOG is about having this kinda friendly character - to me it's almost more about its ideology than what they have to offer and I think that the risk is very high that at least externally (in other words: to us and future customers) they are going to be less and less disinguishable from other distributors.

Actually I just wanted to say: Guys, I support you in trying new things but be careful so you won't loose something you maybe didn't even know you had.
Post edited April 07, 2012 by F4LL0UT
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F4LL0UT: snip
Great letter. We share the exact thoughts. The only way to not harm old releases is staying the way it was. New old releases tue and thu.
You want to bring us new games? Fine, but please make it in different weekdays.

If there isn't two new old releases a week, I think I will stop visiting the store. I don't want to be disappointed with some Assassin's Creeds or another indie game that everybody already have.

WE WANT OLD GAMES to stay on gog. (mostly, and most of us ;p) I don't think when you saw your poll results anybody wanted new releases to be made INSTEAD OF old ones. We wanted newer games to be released as an addition. Not replacement.

I felt really bad when Guillermo said "we will bring you at least one classic game a week" or something like that. One is less than two, guys...

Also, I don't know why GOG.com is expanding it's catalogue so slowly. Two games a week while the competition grows like 30 games a month? I understand it;s not easy to bring oldies back, because you need to optimize them, but for new releases? They should be released more often, imho..
Post edited April 07, 2012 by keeveek
Heroes of Might and Magic V is six years old, and that other game is like four and a half. They're both old enough to beat me in Street Fighter (or a street fight if they tag teamed me).