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Zurvan7: @Reveenka that everything or nothing policy is really stupid and I can't gift games separately.
Agreed.
And you know, I can't figure it out. I can't see how allowing us to remove games from a bundle while keeping the price the same is bad for Gog. $19 for nine games equals $2.10 per game, while $19 for four games equals $4.75 per game.
I'm not asking that Gog keeps the 80% discount intact while allowing users to add or remove games as they please. All I'm asking is that the price remains the same whether you buy ten games or four games.

And of course, splitting bundles should be possible, and I really don't understand why it isn't.

And last - awesome profile pic, buddy! :D
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Zurvan7: @Reveenka that everything or nothing policy is really stupid and I can't gift games separately.
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Reveenka: Agreed.
And you know, I can't figure it out. I can't see how allowing us to remove games from a bundle while keeping the price the same is bad for Gog. $19 for nine games equals $2.10 per game, while $19 for four games equals $4.75 per game.
I'm not asking that Gog keeps the 80% discount intact while allowing users to add or remove games as they please. All I'm asking is that the price remains the same whether you buy ten games or four games.

And of course, splitting bundles should be possible, and I really don't understand why it isn't.

And last - awesome profile pic, buddy! :D
Haha your pic is more epic xD


Yeah the 80% thing is now finished and if it wasn't all or nothing policy, I would have spend money on gog games. Now I won't (can't) buy anything. Plus some games are still too expensive on gog imo (even with the sales). Other shops have cheaper flash sales and like you have mentioned 80% of on all D&D titles should apply on separate D&D titles as well.
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Zurvan7: (...) like you have mentioned 80% of on all D&D titles should apply on separate D&D titles as well.
I just want to clear this up - I don't think that the 80% off should be retained if you choose to buy less games. I think the percentage offered should be scaled so that you never pay more than you would if you bought the entire bundle at 80% off.
There is no incentive for Gog to sell bundles if you get to keep 80% across the board regardless of whether you buy one or ten games.

So, assuming that a bundle has ten games that gives you %80 off for a total of $20, we know that each game costs $10 at full price. With the discount, the actual price of each game becomes $2.
However, if you only want five of those games, you still pay $20 for those five games. Now you're paying $4 for each game, and your discount has gone down to %60, but you're still paying the same total of $20.

I'm suggesting this because I don't think it makes sense that buying four games costs $34 while buying nine games costs $19, as was the case with the D&D bundle for me.


Still, I'm more interested in being able to split a bundle so that I can gift leftover codes to others. :)
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P1na: 3 words of advice. Trade, trade, and trade. And don't forget trading.
I myself somehow don't like trading games... If I want something I usually end up buying it.
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Zurvan7: Haha your pic is more epic xD


Yeah the 80% thing is now finished and if it wasn't all or nothing policy, I would have spend money on gog games. Now I won't (can't) buy anything. Plus some games are still too expensive on gog imo (even with the sales). Other shops have cheaper flash sales and like you have mentioned 80% of on all D&D titles should apply on separate D&D titles as well.
Keep in mind that on GOG you're actually owning your games, while in other shops (like steam), you're just renting them. I think that alone justifies the price.
Post edited December 20, 2013 by blotunga
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blotunga: Keep in mind that on GOG you're actually owning your games, while in other shops (like steam), you're just renting them. I think that alone justifies the price.
You don't officially own the games any more on GOG, in both you buy a license. The difference is in lack of control.

And the GG version of the games is as DRM free as the GOG ones, so in that sense you 'own' them just as much.
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Pheace: You don't officially own the games any more on GOG, in both you buy a license. The difference is in lack of control.

And the GG version of the games is as DRM free as the GOG ones, so in that sense you 'own' them just as much.
My GOG games I can back up and take out to play whenever I want. My steam games I can play only when steam allows me to do so. I have quite a few games there too, but honestly I prefer gog. But unfortunately there are many great games which aren't on gog.
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Pheace: You don't officially own the games any more on GOG, in both you buy a license. The difference is in lack of control.

And the GG version of the games is as DRM free as the GOG ones, so in that sense you 'own' them just as much.
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blotunga: My GOG games I can back up and take out to play whenever I want. My steam games I can play only when steam allows me to do so. I have quite a few games there too, but honestly I prefer gog. But unfortunately there are many great games which aren't on gog.
You can still back up your on steam and play 90% of their game whenever you want. Even without internet connection I'm still able to play all my games in SP mode (Steam goes automatically in offline mode). With that being said, you do not own games on gog either in the sense that I can't trade my games in the library with other people. If I truly possessed a game I could have traded it with everyone I like from my library. Also the prices on gog are still too high (even on sales) whereas you can find Steam keys from external webshops. But they are both great services and keep pc gaming alive and accessible to all :)
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Zurvan7: You can still back up your on steam and play 90% of their game whenever you want. Even without internet connection I'm still able to play all my games in SP mode (Steam goes automatically in offline mode). With that being said, you do not own games on gog either in the sense that I can't trade my games in the library with other people. If I truly possessed a game I could have traded it with everyone I like from my library. Also the prices on gog are still too high (even on sales) whereas you can find Steam keys from external webshops. But they are both great services and keep pc gaming alive and accessible to all :)
On the other hand all games on Gog will work or you get your money back :). On steam it can happen that the games you buy won't work and you can't do anything about it.
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Zurvan7: You can still back up your on steam and play 90% of their game whenever you want. Even without internet connection I'm still able to play all my games in SP mode (Steam goes automatically in offline mode). With that being said, you do not own games on gog either in the sense that I can't trade my games in the library with other people. If I truly possessed a game I could have traded it with everyone I like from my library. Also the prices on gog are still too high (even on sales) whereas you can find Steam keys from external webshops. But they are both great services and keep pc gaming alive and accessible to all :)
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blotunga: On the other hand all games on Gog will work or you get your money back :). On steam it can happen that the games you buy won't work and you can't do anything about it.
True, but don't forget that Steam has a great support team. I had problems with games not working, paying and not receiving game etc and they replied to me withing 24h and fixed it. Also Steam mentions ON THEIR SHOP PAGE that for example this game has DRM issues, is out of stock, is not stable on windows 7 etc. Also what I personally do is check the discussions on every game I want to purchase and you'll directly know if people are having issues :p

Also a lot of external vendors do sell steam keys so Steam can't be held responsible for their problems all the time (yet the support teams tries to find a solution). But again they are both good services and we can go on about advantages and disadvantages :p
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Reveenka: I just want to clear this up - I don't think that the 80% off should be retained if you choose to buy less games. I think the percentage offered should be scaled so that you never pay more than you would if you bought the entire bundle at 80% off.
GOG used to have scaling/increasing bundles like that, ie. the more you bought (or already had on GOG) from the bundle, the higher the discount percentage would be. Step by step, not just one step like these "80% off if you buy or own everything already; otherwise 50% (or 0%?))".

I liked those scaling GOG bundles, but apparently many others didn't. I recall the complaints with them were basically that everyone felt they should be entitled to the full discount percentage, no matter how many games they had (on GOG) or were going to buy.

Steam also has bundles where you get an extra discount if you buy all the games in the bundle together, but those offers don't compensate you if you have some of the games in Steam already. If you do, you'll be just paying for them again. I like how GOG takes the already purchased games into account in the deals, well in most anyway. I recall there were some bundles in the past which didn't, and I disliked them because with them I could have indeed ending up buying something again.
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timppu: I recall the complaints with them were basically that everyone felt they should be entitled to the full discount percentage, no matter how many games they had (on GOG) or were going to buy.
Well, I think the people who made those arguments are entitled, and I don't agree with them. Gog is a business that can't exist if they are expected to give stuff away for (nearly) free.
Also, I don't understand how anyone could think the current system (all-or-nothing discount) is better than the previous system (scaled discount). If you don't want the whole bundle (which means you won't get the full 80% discount), how is a 0% discount better than a 60% discount? Whoever argued for the new system must have failed math.

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In fact, the more I think about it, the more hilarious it seems to me. I imagine an enraged crowd of people knocking on Gog's doors going "WE DON'T WANT SCALED DISCOUNTS! GIVE US THE FULL DISCOUNT OR NO DISCOUNT AT ALL! THAT'S DEFINITELY BETTER THAN SCALED DISCOUNTS!" :D

By the way, I recognize that you're not advocating the all-or-nothing discount. I'm just throwing some arguments and counter-points out there in case any of the advocates of the current system are reading and would like to chip in.

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timppu: I like how GOG takes the already purchased games into account in the deals, well in most anyway.
Agreed, I think that's very generous of Gog to do, and I consider that a privilege, not a right.
Post edited December 20, 2013 by Reveenka
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Reveenka: Ah, the D&D bundle. When it first appeared, it quickly turned me into a crusader for splitable bundles. If I could have gifted the five games I didn't want to others, I would have bought the bundle.
From what I've heard, if you contact GOG support they will split up the games you have in a gift code. So:

1. Buy a gift code for the entire bundle
2. Ask GOG to split up the bundle between games you want and don't want.
3. Redeem the code for the games you want.
4. Give away the code(s) for the games you don't.
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Tallin: From what I've heard, if you contact GOG support they will split up the games you have in a gift code.
That's very decent of them if they do, but it doesn't sound very practical. And if it can be done, I don't see why it can't be implemented so that we can do that ourselves when we purchase the bundle instead of having to get support involved.

I don't want to sound complainy, I think it's great if splitting bundles is possible, but having to contact support just seems like jumping through unnecessary hoops to do it.
Well the best thing is to give all costumers choices. First of all an 80% deal should apply on all games on the bundle. Whether you want to buy of of them or all of them. And I know gog is a much smaller business than Steam so the prices are a bit higher and they don't tend to do really cheap discounts. Steam had a sale where they prices Max Payne 3 and the season pass like 6.5€ which is cheaper than the most games here (that are 20 years old or so).

I thought that was the reason that GOG changed its business standards. They now offer new games as well because if you want to deliver 10-20 year old games at such high prices then create a niche market, where people are prepared to pay higher prices. Imo GOG shouldn't have changed their initial business standards but hey like Reveenka it is a business and they have really changed this website into a nice little online business. GOG is much more accessible these days, they have a very user friendly forum and they actually monitor their forums and answer people directly via the forums.

Also about the scaling system: I don't think people complaining with it had anything to do with it. Maybe GOG saw that they couldn't afford these 'cheap' deals. They want to make a real business out of GOG, also a lot of publishers don't want to offer their games with free DRM (although the DRM rights on gog are also arguible)

So I hope in the future they would offer the costumers more flexible discounts :)