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amok: New idea, I have read too many Agatha Christie books. The doctor is the 12'th invisible player. He did not really die (there is not body), he is just hiding.
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Vitek: I hope he won't return. We have enough to worry about even without bloated zombie running around.

"And, as his blood on the ship's rail has been carefully wiped off and his body immerged miles ago,..."
He may have bleed, he may have been thrown overboard - but none of those statements actually says that he is dead...


It is a long shoot, I know, but it never says anywhere that he is dead.
Come on. That's like in my game. I said someone's head exploded and flub started speculating that he could come back later beacuse I joked there and said he will need few weeks of rest.
I was banging my head against wall when I read that.
So, WDS hates me and the two routers don't want to speak with each other, one lense of my glasses fell to the floor and has a small crack, and my cats are keeping me up all night.

On the other hand, we do have quite a bit of discussion concerning Vitek and the number of players. I like how people keep jumping on Vitek (hell, I jumped on him as well) but as usual during Day 1, few things can be certain. I'll try to be a bit more active, though that requires me to find a bit more time online.
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gkaiser: Oh, certainly. I'm the new kid on the block, and I don't know anyone. At all. My votes are cast at random, because I have no reason NOT to suspect anyone - and what may be construed as bandwagon-jumping is in fact me looking up to my virtual elders because it's a given they have a better idea of who is generally suspicious around here.

Right now the only person I know is not a mafioso is myself. Just your friendly neighborhood paranoid fella here, who also finds it highly disturbing that the guy that could save our lives was the first one to bite it.
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Vitek: CSPVG asked you to explain your vote and I see no explaantion here.
"I'm new here and follow the lead of someone who isn't with my vote."

Simple enough?
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gkaiser: "I'm new here and follow the lead of someone who isn't with my vote."

Simple enough?
So you voted him only because he had most votes?
And what was the theory you spoke of?

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JMich: On the other hand, we do have quite a bit of discussion concerning Vitek and the number of players. I like how people keep jumping on Vitek (hell, I jumped on him as well) but as usual during Day 1, few things can be certain
I already wondered (and still do) about this too.
I must have changed my playstyle significantly in last game or I don't know what happened.
I was almost never suspected in all older games (from 1 to 13) and probably never by more than 1 person at time (except G6 but it was game's fault) not even when I was scum. Then suddenly since game 14 people are piling on me for almost anything in every game, no matter how silly it is and big part of those game revolves around any possible accusation against me.
I am really at loss why is that.
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gkaiser: "I'm new here and follow the lead of someone who isn't with my vote."

Simple enough?
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Vitek: So you voted him only because he had most votes?
And what was the theory you spoke of?
Ostensibly, yes. My theory? "How many people are going to see through the fact that the new guy has no clue and goes by popularity?". The gkaiser research institute thanks you for your extensive cooperation in obtaining new data. A virtual hug has been issued and mailed.
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gkaiser: Ostensibly, yes. My theory? "How many people are going to see through the fact that the new guy has no clue and goes by popularity?". The gkaiser research institute thanks you for your extensive cooperation in obtaining new data. A virtual hug has been issued and mailed.
I was also testing something. "Things people will come up with to retroactively justify a weird comment/behavior. Thanks for the data!
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gkaiser: "I'm new here and follow the lead of someone who isn't with my vote."

Simple enough?
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Vitek: So you voted him only because he had most votes?
And what was the theory you spoke of?

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JMich: On the other hand, we do have quite a bit of discussion concerning Vitek and the number of players. I like how people keep jumping on Vitek (hell, I jumped on him as well) but as usual during Day 1, few things can be certain
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Vitek: I already wondered (and still do) about this too.
I must have changed my playstyle significantly in last game or I don't know what happened.
I was almost never suspected in all older games (from 1 to 13) and probably never by more than 1 person at time (except G6 but it was game's fault) not even when I was scum. Then suddenly since game 14 people are piling on me for almost anything in every game, no matter how silly it is and big part of those game revolves around any possible accusation against me.
I am really at loss why is that.
I'm not voting you based on play style. I'm also seeing you, now under pressure, coming up with some far fetched theories (zombie-doctor-mod is alive or at least in play, mafia and serial killer).

Is this your idea of scum hunting, or are you desperately flailing around looking to obfuscate the incriminating spot light??
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Vitek: So you voted him only because he had most votes?
And what was the theory you spoke of?

I already wondered (and still do) about this too.
I must have changed my playstyle significantly in last game or I don't know what happened.
I was almost never suspected in all older games (from 1 to 13) and probably never by more than 1 person at time (except G6 but it was game's fault) not even when I was scum. Then suddenly since game 14 people are piling on me for almost anything in every game, no matter how silly it is and big part of those game revolves around any possible accusation against me.
I am really at loss why is that.
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flubbucket: I'm not voting you based on play style. I'm also seeing you, now under pressure, coming up with some far fetched theories (zombie-doctor-mod is alive or at least in play, mafia and serial killer).

Is this your idea of scum hunting, or are you desperately flailing around looking to obfuscate the incriminating spot light??
To be fair - the "doctor is alive" was my idea, Vitek just discarded it, saying that if the doctor was here he would be a zombie.
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gkaiser: "I'm new here and follow the lead of someone who isn't with my vote."

Simple enough?
Earlier on you said your behaviour could be misconstrued as bandwagoning, but it is bandwagoning of the purest kind. Just blindly following someone because they're more experienced is a bad idea, anyone could be mafia. If someone you consider experienced has made a case against someone else, try analysing it yourself and coming up with your own interpretation of the facts that they brought forward (or sometimes twisted). You may find yourself agreeing with them, but you're not blindly following.
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flubbucket: I'm not voting you based on play style. I'm also seeing you, now under pressure, coming up with some far fetched theories (zombie-doctor-mod is alive or at least in play, mafia and serial killer).

Is this your idea of scum hunting, or are you desperately flailing around looking to obfuscate the incriminating spot light??
OK, first I dismissed your posts as you being funny but now you are obviously just making things up to accuse me.

I am willing to accept Joe's vote as he always suspects me. In some way I am willing to accept Rob's as well because, even if he is buliding something ridiculous, he is at least working with real content.

You are just creating fake accusations.
In no way was the living doctor my idea and contrary to what you are saying, I did exact opposite and dismissed it as crap.

Two days ago you accused me of being too defensive. That you based on fact I blamed everyone around.
In your opinion Joe, Robbeasy, SPF, and whole town.

Joe when I cursed him for maing G15 and forcing me to do typo here, which has nothing to do with actual case and with this game.
("Ugh, damn it. That's Joe's fault. I wanted to just type good guys at first but then I remembered his mafia game, changed it to make it more accurate and screwed it in the process.That game will haunt me forever. I curse you Joe!")

Robbeasy apparently just because I mentioned him.
("No, you are not the person. That's what I was telling to Robbeasy. Nobody but SirPrimalform cared. Robb talked abbout how I should realise it will turn town upside down but if SPF left it alone, no one would even notice and never saw any sort of soft claim. ")

SPF for being the one who caused the soft claim shenanigans which is true and he admited it himself.

And then according to you I blamed town becuase I mentioned it in my post too when I talked about how I usually name thing.
("Maybe. I guss so. I certainly use townie only for uninforme majority, never for whole town, and town for whole group, but probably not only for that. It's more likely not rule, though.
You should provide examples, you are accusing me. Also, how would you know who I was adressing in my old posts otehr than I tell you?")

All this being too defensive came 2 posts after you accused me of not defending myself.

Do poeple really think I accused everyone around in those posts as flub claims?
Are people really OK with this?


@amok; This reminded me I wanted to quote you one more thing.
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Telika: 12. Telika : Esteban Florès, ship's doctor [TOWN DOCTOR], deceased.
So yeah, it does say that he is dead.


@Telika; kkreo needs prod or replacement; He hasn't posted for 5 days.
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Vitek: @amok; This reminded me I wanted to quote you one more thing.
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Telika: 12. Telika : Esteban Florès, ship's doctor [TOWN DOCTOR], deceased.
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Vitek: So yeah, it does say that he is dead.
Darnation, I missed that one.. Oh well, on to next wrong theory.

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Vitek: @Telika; kkreo needs prod or replacement; He hasn't posted for 5 days.
That's why I voted for him.... there is not much happening.
QUADRALIEN has now replaced KKREO

The votes have therefore been RESET TO ZERO. Again.

Please do recast your votes if this replacement doesn't change anything to your reads.
Post edited November 09, 2013 by Telika
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Telika: QUADRALIEN has now replaced KKREO
NOOOOOOO!!!!

Now I must read all the posts again and really look for scum players, it was easier when I could just vote to kick the inactive...
Welcome QuadrAlien.

So you are scum twice in row? That's harsh.