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Vitek: @Quadr's 302; what CSPVG's asking after the family quote?
Post #250, just after yourself being mentioned.

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CSPVG: 2) Amok: Quoted from your first post( number 5), "I have high hopes for this trip, and I will not let my family down! Life is good." What do you mean when you say that you won't let your family down?
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QuadrAlien: Post #250, just after yourself being mentioned.
Ah, OK. I missed it.

Once again questioning of possible softclaiming. And once again I can't say I am happy about it...
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Vitek: So who exactly are your suspects? You mentioned gkaiser, then SirPrimalform, flubbucket and me as top contenders, CSPVG as suspicious too and you named rest of players wildcards which I guess can be considered as possible scum too.

That's too much for my liking.
Huh? I thought my post was clear enough. The top 3 contenders part obviously referred to the number of votes at the time. Sorry that's not to your liking, but I do enjoy the fact that you're not even addressing the specific part of the post that referred to you.

P.S. Have you actually reached a conclusion that a certain player is definitely not scum? Because in that case, boy you're smart.
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DarkoD13: Huh? I thought my post was clear enough. The top 3 contenders part obviously referred to the number of votes at the time. Sorry that's not to your liking, but I do enjoy the fact that you're not even addressing the specific part of the post that referred to you.

P.S. Have you actually reached a conclusion that a certain player is definitely not scum? Because in that case, boy you're smart.
Ok, I didn't get "top 3 cotenders" means players with most votes. So no, it was not so obvious.
What am I supposed to adress if I was really was that mad? I made that post so go figure.

Don't give me this crap I already addressed this. I'll you tell the same thing I told to Rob.(well not the same but in the same spirit) When someone is unwilling to admit that they feel some players are even leaning town for them then I see it only as way to not close options for later when they need to jump on some/any wagon.
Have I asked you to say that someone is definitely not scum? I don't think so.
If you look at my yesterday post you can see I have some players in leaning town pile. So who knows maybe I am that smart.
Does it mean they can't be mafia? Hell no! If they do something wrong or something appears against them then I'll have no problem with lynching them. But right now I don't think they are mafia and would be unwilling to lynch them. If you don't have any such player then I can only wonder if there is something you are not willing to do to get lynch and if you are willing to lynch anyone.
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Vitek: Ok, I didn't get "top 3 cotenders" means players with most votes. So no, it was not so obvious.
What am I supposed to adress if I was really was that mad? I made that post so go figure.
It looks like it wasn't obvious to you for some reason. I didn't see anyone else bringing it up.

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Vitek: Don't give me this crap I already addressed this.
Umm, you may want to calm down? Your righteous indignation isn't particularly convincing and the reason I needed you to address your remark to SPF (and your follow-up post) was that it felt rather calculated.

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Vitek: If you don't have any such player then I can only wonder if there is something you are not willing to do to get lynch and if you are willing to lynch anyone.
I'm losing you. Sorry, but have you missed the part where I'm voting for gkaiser and my thorough explanation of why I'm doing that?
Ah, OK, I just got what you meant in the last sentence. No, I don't have any such player, feel however you wish about it.
Notice of inactivity. My hard drive crashed (I blame floaters and seekers) so I'm currently in the process of trying to set up a working computer again. I hope I'll have one again by Monday.
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DarkoD13: It looks like it wasn't obvious to you for some reason. I didn't see anyone else bringing it up.
It could also be because people don't care or haven't even noticed. It certainly possible here.
More likely is that I am the only one stupid who didn't get it. I don't know what is so shocking about it.

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DarkoD13: Umm, you may want to calm down? Your righteous indignation isn't particularly convincing and the reason I needed you to address your remark to SPF (and your follow-up post) was that it felt rather calculated.
Why do you think I am not calm? Because I said it's crap? I think it in any state of mind so it is not affected by my calmness. :-p
That's something you can't expect me to answer. I am asked to answer if emotions behind my own post are real or faked, where's the point?


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JMich: Notice of inactivity. My hard drive crashed (I blame floaters and seekers) so I'm currently in the process of trying to set up a working computer again. I hope I'll have one again by Monday.
Ugh, that sucks.
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DarkoD13: It looks like it wasn't obvious to you for some reason. I didn't see anyone else bringing it up.
I would normally interpret "top 3 contenders" to be your top scum reads rather than just the most viable wagons. The most viable wagons is only something of interest when the deadline is looming seriously (or if you're scum).

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JMich: Notice of inactivity. My hard drive crashed (I blame floaters and seekers) so I'm currently in the process of trying to set up a working computer again. I hope I'll have one again by Monday.
Damn, good luck!
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DarkoD13: Huh? I thought my post was clear enough. The top 3 contenders part obviously referred to the number of votes at the time. Sorry that's not to your liking, but I do enjoy the fact that you're not even addressing the specific part of the post that referred to you.

P.S. Have you actually reached a conclusion that a certain player is definitely not scum? Because in that case, boy you're smart.
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Vitek: Ok, I didn't get "top 3 cotenders" means players with most votes. So no, it was not so obvious.
What am I supposed to adress if I was really was that mad? I made that post so go figure.

Don't give me this crap I already addressed this. I'll you tell the same thing I told to Rob.(well not the same but in the same spirit) When someone is unwilling to admit that they feel some players are even leaning town for them then I see it only as way to not close options for later when they need to jump on some/any wagon.
Have I asked you to say that someone is definitely not scum? I don't think so.
If you look at my yesterday post you can see I have some players in leaning town pile. So who knows maybe I am that smart.
Does it mean they can't be mafia? Hell no! If they do something wrong or something appears against them then I'll have no problem with lynching them. But right now I don't think they are mafia and would be unwilling to lynch them. If you don't have any such player then I can only wonder if there is something you are not willing to do to get lynch and if you are willing to lynch anyone.
Incredibly arrogant here...

And true, if someone does something wrong I will call them on it. I might even vote for them and challenge them on their scum slip.

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DarkoD13: It looks like it wasn't obvious to you for some reason. I didn't see anyone else bringing it up.
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Vitek: It could also be because people don't care or haven't even noticed. It certainly possible here.
More likely is that I am the only one stupid who didn't get it. I don't know what is so shocking about it.


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Then false humility here.

These things do not add up....
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SirPrimalform: I would normally interpret "top 3 contenders" to be your top scum reads rather than just the most viable wagons. The most viable wagons is only something of interest when the deadline is looming seriously (or if you're scum).
Isn't the "deadline looming seriously"? My post was right after the you-only-have-10-days-left notice. We're now 3 days later and still nowhere.
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SirPrimalform: I would normally interpret "top 3 contenders" to be your top scum reads rather than just the most viable wagons. The most viable wagons is only something of interest when the deadline is looming seriously (or if you're scum).
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DarkoD13: Isn't the "deadline looming seriously"? My post was right after the you-only-have-10-days-left notice. We're now 3 days later and still nowhere.
Not sure where I stand on this..

Granted, there is a higher chance of lynching a scum (3? to 11) than no-lynch (0 to 11), but this is for my own personal sanity reasons, not game theory reasons. I do feel that for a lynch to happen there must be better reason than we need to have a lynch. it also makes the next day more interesting, as we all know some of each others standpoint. Lynching for the sake of it brings you back to square one - the difference is that with no-lynch it will be one 1 less, but with a random lynch there is a 8(?) to 11 chance of being 2 town less and a (3?) to 11 chance of being 1 town and 1 scum left. Correct me if I am wrong... (Making the assumption here that there is 3 scum out of 11 players)

Game theory says to have a random lynch, personal convictions without reason says that a no-lynch feels better.
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DarkoD13: Isn't the "deadline looming seriously"? My post was right after the you-only-have-10-days-left notice. We're now 3 days later and still nowhere.
I would say it's only time to start looking at the most viable wagons when there's only 48 to 72 hours left. At the moment you should be thinking about who you think is scum, not who has the most votes (there may be a crossover however).
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flubbucket: Incredibly arrogant here...

And true, if someone does something wrong I will call them on it. I might even vote for them and challenge them on their scum slip.

Then false humility here.

These things do not add up....
Whatever man.

Instead of accusing me of arrogance (what would have it to do with scumminess anyway?) could you instead answer what inspired your change of heart about JMich?
Found a new HDD, reinstalled OS, in the process of installing drivers and software.

Barring any other misfortunes, should be up and running in a day or two.