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This is absolutely silly and may not work, but I've been wanting to give it a shot. So, I'm going to Unvote Red_Baron and Vote Caroline Bianchi.

This is very odd, I know, but I've been wondering if one could vote for our NPC story-teller since amok's claim. Although, I'm not merely doing because I can, and there is some logic involved, but you're going to have to bear with me. The idea behind wanting to see if this will work, is that Caroline Bianchi seems to be relating this game as if its outcome had already been experienced by her. Thus she survived whatever horror befell our friendly ski instructor, and by extension some of us. I thought if I could lynch her before she had gotten to the end of her story, none of it would have happened, thus meaning that the mafia never killed anyone, and we could all just go home.

As I've said, this is quite silly, but it's worth a shot. If my vote isn't accepted, or if Joe hasn't appeared to tell me as much by Sunday, I'll change it.

In light of this, would the moderator be so kind as to give us a vote count.

Moving on, I think it' perfectly possible for amok to discuss clues tomorrow, however obliquely. Unless I've missed something in the flavour post or rules, the only penalty for speaking about our clues after day one is public ridicule. Whether this just means the GOGfather showing up to say that, from now on, everyone is to call CSPVG Alex Undergarment, or whether Joe was being euphemistic, I'm not sure.

Speaking of clues, however, I think that we've pretty much run out of time to cover them on day 1. Monday is the deadline( if I remember correctly), and I just don't think that it's going to be possible to reach mass agreement on whether sharing our clues is good or not, and then have time to properly discuss them and their ramifications.

I'd still like an answer from all of you on whether or not you find Red_Baron's actions scummy.
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amok: It is now only 3 days left until the deadline, and we still have not got any further whether we should reveal clues or not, much less actually got to the point of discussing them.
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DarkoD13: Isn't deciding on a lynch a far more pressing matter?
The "should we reveal our clues" discussion has become too distracting at this point and your claim has caused such a fuss that even people that were open to the idea of sharing their clues have become negative towards it because they don't trust you.
I feel like we are making the same mistakes as in the previous game.
After a couple of days the clues will become a moot point, as we can no longer share nor talk about them. This is the only opportunity we will have to do so. But yes, we also need a lynche, but if we get all clues and can solve a bit of it, then a lynch may be the outcome from them.
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CSPVG: I'd still like an answer from all of you on whether or not you find Red_Baron's actions scummy.
Yes
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amok: It is now only 3 days left until the deadline, and we still have not got any further whether we should reveal clues or not, much less actually got to the point of discussing them.
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DarkoD13: Isn't deciding on a lynch a far more pressing matter?
Considering my chances to be killed by mafia tonight are pretty high, I'd say getting the finishing touches on my "fake your death and escape with the girl" plan is my main concern.
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DarkoD13: Isn't deciding on a lynch a far more pressing matter?
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P1na: Considering my chances to be killed by mafia tonight are pretty high, I'd say getting the finishing touches on my "fake your death and escape with the girl" plan is my main concern.
Oy - you told me it was "fake your death and escape with the dog"
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P1na: Considering my chances to be killed by mafia tonight are pretty high, I'd say getting the finishing touches on my "fake your death and escape with the girl" plan is my main concern.
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amok: Oy - you told me it was "fake your death and escape with the dog"
I'm sorry to break the news to you amok, but you are a bitch. So both statements are correct.
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amok: @SPF - re the looming deadlines. It is now only 3 days left until the deadline, and we still have not got any further whether we should reveal clues or not, much less actually got to the point of discussing them. See what I meant? Forum time is much shorter than real time, and 10 days is actually not that much time at all.
True. Right, we've discussed it a lot.

Can we have an actual vote on whether or not it's a good idea to reveal the info?

I'm in favour-ish, but I don't trust Amok. Still, I'll say yes we should.

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amok: I also wonder what the penalty will be for talking about clues....
Are you excused from the penalty?
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SirPrimalform: Can we have an actual vote on whether or not it's a good idea to reveal the info?
I'll gladly give my two votes again. Yes to share likes/dislikes, yes to share clues.
and if there is ever have been any doubt - Yes to clues, Yes to likes/dislikes
Same for me, yes on both accounts... and if I judge correctly from what I read the majority have already expressed that we should reveal both. So perhaps less focus on if, but more on doing and then lynch..
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P1na: Considering my chances to be killed by mafia tonight are pretty high, I'd say getting the finishing touches on my "fake your death and escape with the girl" plan is my main concern.
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amok: Oy - you told me it was "fake your death and escape with the dog"
Duffman says a lot of things, oh yeah

Unfortunately, my power role is "movie hero": I'll always win and get the girl, even though it often requires too fool everybody else. And, while my story might never be disclosed to the rest of you all, you can be sure I'll be the winner-in-the-dark. Because I'm awesome (in-the-dark).

The fall of the loyal pet is always tragic, as I really like dogs. Especially roasted. But I'll swallow my tears, keep up the fight and use the sob story to worm my way into the girl's heart.
I honestly have no idea what P1na is going on about, is it some form of intern joke with amok or is he claiming or??
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amok: I also wonder what the penalty will be for talking about clues....
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SirPrimalform: Are you excused from the penalty?
Not that I am aware of. I now feel like I am being set up for some public mockery...
What I'm having difficulty with is the utter lack of cajones regarding sharing clues, likes, and dislikes.

Is there a man in this entire place capable of deciding something without asking mommy?? All those feigning unity by wanting to build a consensus are accomplishing what exactly???
The murder happened at 8:46. My PM does not state whether this is AM or PM, but I'm going to assume that it's AM as Joe is UK based and we tend to use the 24 hour clock (e.g. 8:46 PM would have been 20:46).