No great timing this week-end. I'll throw these points in, hoping to not miss a subject.
- I've already developped many times the pro and con of clues/likes. I think individuals should evaluate and decide for themselves what is better to be shared.
- I disagree with robbeasy when he says that clue claim would annoy mafiosi having to come up with something. I think that inventing a clue would be hard for a townie having to do it, but keep in mind how easily a mafioso can invent gratuitously misleading stuff, with or without consequences, check-able or not (not to mention that they know the setting better). Many clues given so far could have easily been invented. One spectacular exemple being, ironically, robbeasy's own statement about the tastes of the NPC.
- This could be checked, though, with a role such as amok's clue-sniffer. But there are as many reasons to believe amok as to not. The neutrality could make sense as a way to offer a town ability without unbalancing the number of lynch requirements. The post-day-1 clue discussion is more problematic - indeed what does joe's sanction imply, in all seriousness. I took it as an interdiction, phrased in a cool way (I still mostly see it as such), but would amok's power work as "privately" as unshared clues, or would he be able to accuse people without them being able to respond on that subject, or does joe's rule simply mean that you've got to decide on day 1 what to share, and are always free to mention clues/likes provided you've mentionned them in day 1 first ?
- We were asked about red_baron. I think that, generally, the mafia wouldn't try to lynch a neutral, even if they fear a town-sided ability. I understand the town-side pessimistic strategy about lynching neutrals on (traditionally catastrophic) day 1, but mafia doesn't have this incentive. They'll more probably try to score instead. Unless there is a wagon on a mafioso.
- Lastly, I was asked about my own ski ability. My own flavor does mention indirectly that I don't ski, so I expected this to be mentionned in other roles. Actually, I expected all players to be sorted in possessing or not some ski basics, with some townie skiers (even if that one slope is too hard) and mafia liars denying this ski ability. I wanted mafia to be uneasy and fear some later info calling out their lie. What I got is nmillar's reaction, that I interpret as completely scummy (elusive answer, then counter-attack, attempt to stop the discussion, accusation of scuminess of whoever would pursue this line of investigation, accusation of diversion, and then, funnily enough, diversion with the weird sudden finger at jmich's genders clue). Right now, nmillar is the one I suspect most to be mafia. And at deadline minus two days, I'd rather officialise it.
vote nmillar
Now, according to my previously stated assumptions, if the wagon on nmillar grows, he's town, if amok gets lynched instead, he's scum. Roughly. Does it make sense.