There is though, like I said - it's very well hidden but it's there. A particular bugbear of mine that she alludes to (but buries it under hateful rant bollocks) is the media's treatment of women. She goes on more about porn but at least porn is honest. Here's some people fucking, enjoy yourself. Other forms of media are much more subversive in their sexualisation of women. Look at TV for example - women are almost ALWAYS slim and attractive. Adverts, the same. It creates this ridiculous image of womankind that women en masse are supposed to aspire to and it's fucking unhealthy. Shit, have a look at your news networks - the UK is steadily following suit - getting rid of the older women and hiring young and beautiful anchors. Sure they're OxBridge educated but that alone clearly isn't enough anymore. US news creeps me the fuck out - all these platinum blonde soccer moms. Scary.

The feminist revolution was all well and good, but like just like racism - sexism has gone underground. It's still there, but racists and sexists simply say "oh pish-posh, we're all equal now, quit moaning". Women still get an incredibly shit deal. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff that needs doing with respect to the attitude to men, but I just don't see that as anywhere near as important yet.

You know, from childhood I've heard this line about representations of women in the media being unhealthy, and Barbie, and so on. I always kind of bought into it because it seems obvious on the face of it, but as I've gotten older I'm no longer sure.

We like to associate ourselves with idealized sexual images, it's a deep part of our psyche, for obvious reasons. You ever wonder why women do more cosplay? More women can nearly look the part of most anime/video game women than men could ever hope to match with regards to their male counterparts (seriously, how many dudes can pull off Duke Nukem or nearly any adult, male video game hero for that matter?).

And yet we love these characters, Jane McGonigal's states her study showed people acted more outgoing all day long after playing a powerful avatar in a game for just 90 seconds. These avatars are the Conans and the Lara Crofts.

So is it society and the media pushing it, or reacting to it? I'm honestly asking, I'm not aware that we've tried to find a satisfactory answer.

I think that's a bit of a chicken and egg question, I certainly think they reinforce each other. I don't, however, think it's an innate quality in women to have such serious body issues and I think most people can agree that's a pretty significant problem that a huge amount of women suffer from. I think it takes quite a leap to assume that the media has nothing to do with that. Sure, there's possibly an entirely natural reason for it to be this way, but being concious intelligent beings I think we need to analyse our destructive behaviour and try to cut it out, unnatural even though it may feel.

So sure, men and women alike generally prefer to see attractive people on the TV and in other forms of media, we know for certain that it's not representative of people in general, and as such perhaps it's seriously unhealthy and steps need to be taken to try and deal with it.

Just like in medicine, the cure needs to be less destructive than the disease. If it is, and we can at least reasonably believe this is the case, I'm all for it.

I was glad when Pat Sayjack (or however it's spelled) told the network he'd quit if they replaced Vanna White for a young hottie. Of course, the gratuitous nudity in Piranha also made me glad.

Ah heck, we all have way too many sex hangups, I say more sex!

Piranha is that silly film with Kelly Brook... and her boobs, right? Thing is, at least a film like that is honest. It's the things that claim some sort of intellectual credibility that I find far more dangerous.

Meh. That's a restrained post compared to another blog entry of hers:

Women's Lives Need a Trigger Warning

One thing I've noticed is that while most people are keen to point out how evidently ridiculous her thought process is, not so many people are addressing how blatantly offensive and hateful it is. Imagine an analogous post about how all black people are criminals.

I don't know anyone who saw that movie who didn't know exactly what they were getting into. So yeah, I'd say honest. Actually for a B movie, horror, bloodbath, it was not that bad. Actually while drunk I quite liked it (though I had a problem with some of the cinematography stemming from the desire to have great shots for 3D).
I think I referred to it as bigotry. She is a destructive person and deserves no more credence on this issue than a neo-nazi on the value of non-whites.

It's a feedback loop, but at some point you have to recognize it and try to stop it, rather than just saying "well, that's the way it is."

Fair enough, I'm willing to accept it as a feedback loop, if that's what it is. But I don't want to blindly assume it, because it's become obvious as I've taken my life's lumps that it's more complex than I originally assumed. It's worth reasonably proving that it's a feedback loop before treating it as such.

Please don't take this as a suggestion that we do nothing, ever, but some honest study would be welcome.

You'd enjoy the work/blogging of Ben Goldacre - his mantra being "I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that." which reminds me I need to buy that t-shirt :).

It's not exactly a barren field. But I have to ask, what qualifies as an honest study? Not to pick on semantics, I'm just asking because I've seen that phrasing used as a precursor to "a study done by men, because women are too invested" and I want to make sure that's not what you mean.

I've been confronted face to face with these kind of pretend-feminist (these people are not feminists) in the past.
I was feeling really really bad, the hatred and desire to control and destroy/censor I felt trying to reason with them was frightening...
It's almost religious for them, you are necessarily wrong in their eyes, even if you are a girl, especially if you are a girl, they consider you even more stupid than the guys because you defend what they (these so-called feminists) hate.

I remember seeing this on another forum. The word "bitch" doesn't even begin to describe this woman.

This woman sounds like she just plain hates men or just wasn't thinking when she was writing all that.

Going to have to really read into this. But it does sound like a one sided argument.

I thought that you've been to the US. Trust me, sex crimes against men are not considered to be particularly serious here. The attitude around here has started to change and we have started to prosecute more and more women for engaging in sex with boys, but it's going to be a long time before men can be considered as valued in society as women are.

Given the epidemic of sex organ mutilation in American society, it's going to take a long time.

Personally, I don't consider that witch to be a feminist. As far as I know feminism mostly died out in the late 70s most "feminists" you run into today don't actually know the history of the movement. Feminism was about equality, even if it meant helping men out in some areas. The current generation is spoiled, egotistical and self entitled. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I rarely if ever meet any that aren't just using it as a cover for misandry.

If women would adhere to the notion of equality more regularly I'm sure that attitudes would change, but precisely why should I ever worry about the well being of some snot nosed brats?
Calling it an argument is being overly generous. This is the same sexist tripe that has led men in America to be treated as second class citizens. If we're lucky, good luck if you're not Christian, straight or white.