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StingingVelvet: Would you stop PC gaming?

Or is PC gaming about more than that to you?
That would make me play a lot more console games. Actually, if they just let me customize controls on the controller, that would make me like it WAY more. There are some games with controls I just can't use because they're physically painful. You should never have to hold down a button constantly to move.

But no, it wouldn't make me stop PC gaming. I play games on PC for three reasons:

Control options
Backwards compatibility
(those two you mentioned)
and MODS. I modify almost every game I have.

However, if they also allowed mods, who knows.
Post edited June 19, 2014 by hudfreegamer
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hedwards: PCs are generally backwards compatible within reason. My mother still plays the version of Tetris that shipped with one of the Win 3.1 entertainment packs. Certainly better than any console that's ever been on the market.
I don't think you can claim it as a feature just because a few things still work.
Most old software and games don't work out of the box on new systems.
Sure it's nice that sometimes it works, but if your case is electrified due to faulty wiring you can't add 'bugzapper' as a feature just because a mosquito landed on it once.
I have the best gamepads ever made on my PC and it would be nice to be able to use them on my Wii (which I only use for GameCube games, so in a way it's a bit backwards compatible, like my 3DS-XL which is only used for NDS with bigger screen).
Using the GameCube controllers with my PC isn't a problem, I've got an USB adapter for that and had one for my SNES peripherals too once.
Post edited June 20, 2014 by Klumpen0815
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hedwards: PCs are generally backwards compatible within reason. My mother still plays the version of Tetris that shipped with one of the Win 3.1 entertainment packs. Certainly better than any console that's ever been on the market.
Guess you don't have a 64-bit OS then, because if you did, it's highly unlikely that your Tetris game would work. In fact, you can generally forget a lot of games released for Windows between 1995 and 1998 on 64-bit systems.
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Smannesman: I don't think you can claim it as a feature just because a few things still work.
Most old software and games don't work out of the box on new systems.
Sure it's nice that sometimes it works, but if your case is electrified due to faulty wiring you can't add 'bugzapper' as a feature just because a mosquito landed on it once.
Thing is, even if it doesn't work out of the box, on a PC you can get most stuff running without additional cost (anything you need is either freeware or comes with Windows). It may take some effort occasionally, but it's possible and it's an inherent feature of the platform.

With consoles on the other hand you're shit out of luck. The only chance you have is modding your console thereby voiding the guarantee and emptying your wallet. That, or keeping an ever increasing pile of old consoles that you have to dig out and hook up to your TV set just for that one game you'd like to play again for five minutes.
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Randalator: or keeping an ever increasing pile of old consoles that you have to dig out and hook up to your TV set just for that one game you'd like to play again for five minutes.
Lol, emulators ftw!
I never hook up my SNES anymore, wouldn't have got the room anyway and HDMI output + savestates + fast forward etc.. options are bliss and being able to hack Seiken Densetsu 3 and Secret of Evermore so that they can be played with more players (which should have been the case from the beginning) is so much better.
Post edited June 20, 2014 by Klumpen0815
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Randalator: Thing is, even if it doesn't work out of the box, on a PC you can get most stuff running without additional cost (anything you need is either freeware or comes with Windows). It may take some effort occasionally, but it's possible and it's an inherent feature of the platform.
No, it isn't.
It's nice emulators and such exist, but they aren't a feature of the system itself.
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Randalator: Thing is, even if it doesn't work out of the box, on a PC you can get most stuff running without additional cost (anything you need is either freeware or comes with Windows). It may take some effort occasionally, but it's possible and it's an inherent feature of the platform.
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Smannesman: No, it isn't.
It's nice emulators and such exist, but they aren't a feature of the system itself.
Then games aren't a feature of any system without built in games too.
Windows has Solitaire and Minesweeper, woohoo! ;)
(Many Linux distros have better stuff from the beginning and more for free in the repo).
Post edited June 20, 2014 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: Then games aren't a feature of any system without built in games too.
Windows has Solitaire and Minesweeper, woohoo! ;)
(Many Linux distros have better stuff from the beginning and more for free in the repo).
Correct, the ability to play those games is.
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StingingVelvet: There's a lot more to PC gaming than mouse aim and running classics on modern systems. However I was sitting there thinking about why I had a hard time switching to consoles when I got carpal tunnel, and the two in the title are the two main things that bothered me. If the PS4 had optional mouse aim for every shooter and ran all PS1, PS2 and PS3 games, I would very seriously consider it over a PC upgrade.
The funny thing is, consoles actually support the use of USB or Bluetooth keyboards and mice. It's the games that don't. It would be easy for Activision to implement KB+M support in Call of Duty on the PS3/4/360/Xbone. No idea why they don't.
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Klumpen0815: Then games aren't a feature of any system without built in games too.
Windows has Solitaire and Minesweeper, woohoo! ;)
(Many Linux distros have better stuff from the beginning and more for free in the repo).
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Smannesman: Correct, the ability to play those games is.
Oh dear, now you are just nitpicking.
The awesome thing about PC is, that you can extend the abilities practically limitless given the right hardware is connected.
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Smannesman: Correct, the ability to play those games is.
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Klumpen0815: Oh dear, now you are just nitpicking.
No I'm not.
I'm just saying PC elitists seem to building their arguments on faulty logic.
Which has been the same for extremists, cultists and elitists throughout history.
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Klumpen0815: Oh dear, now you are just nitpicking.
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Smannesman: No I'm not.
I'm just saying PC elitists seem to building their arguments on faulty logic.
Which has been the same for extremists, cultists and elitists throughout history.
Now you are very rude too compairing PC enthusiats with those - great.
Throwing a whole bunch of people with a single connection somewhere... reminds me of something people don't react very well to out of good reason.
Someone here is standing his ground as a console enthusiast by any means neccessary.
Post edited June 20, 2014 by Klumpen0815
No, because there are still games only released on PC and not on console.
Besides, there isn't anything wrong with being a console gamer, is there?
Post edited June 20, 2014 by FantasyNightmare
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FantasyNightmare: No, because there are still games only released on PC and not on console.
Besides, there isn't anything wrong with being a console gamer, is there?
I remember this quite patently idiotic image that someone posted at one point to demonstrate that the PC was somehow superior because it had "more" exclusives, even though the PC section had an absurd amount of shovelware, and the download exclusives on the consoles were deliberately left out.

There are certainly plenty of PC exclusives, and when it comes to the best indies, PC almost always gets them first due to it being an open platform (before inevitably being ported to consoles), but no-one should be in any doubt that claiming that PC had tons of exclusives is like claiming the Wii had tons of exclusives.

The Wii DID have tons of third-party exclusives, but there was a damn good reason why many of those (non-Nintendo) exclusives were never brought over to other platforms. Same applies to PC. Exclusives only matter when people only on other platforms get jealous of them.
Post edited June 20, 2014 by jamyskis