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Posted May 18, 2011
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Moradin27: Vista 64
I have a quad core Q6600 2.4
Radeon HD 5850 1GB
4 GB RAM

I'm running at 1920 x 1280 and I'm on high settings.

I'm getting 20-30 fps.Should I be getting more? What is Ubersampling?.
yeah, switch off ubersampling in the video settings(the launcher).

Also try switching off Depth of Field.

Run in windowed mode too.
Posted May 18, 2011
An update. I found that my video driver was a year old, even though Windows 7 64 bit was showing it as an up-to-date. After I installed the latest driver performance improved drastically. The game now plays smoothly on Medium settings in 1920x1080. Tried it with FRAPS, it showed 20-30 FPS, about 25 on average.

LOL at myself thinking that my previous poor performance was "about 25". I never measured, so it was probably lower, or maybe the old drivers just chopped away.

Anyway, I can finally play comfortably and enjoy the game. I wish they fix the resolutions issue, so that I won't have to change my desktop resolution in order to play.

My "PC" - iMac Core i7, ATI 5750 1 Gb Bootcamp
Post edited May 18, 2011 by Pelicashka
Posted May 18, 2011
Some people have crazy FPS expectations. 25 is fine. 30-40 is good. 50-60 is great. 60+ is excellent and also unnecessary. I'm running ~35 and the game looks great.
Posted May 18, 2011
Sorry no 30fps is my minimum.
Posted May 18, 2011
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keropi: Some ppl consider and see 20fps as smooth, others 30 and other need 60. It varies from person to person and there is nothing wrong whatever value someone thinks as smooth :)

download fraps it's a 2MB program that displays fps and see what you get out of curiosity :)
I am not trying to discredit you, it is all a matter of someone's perception... I get 27-34fps and although the game is certainly playable it is not enjoyable for me.
I have seen it running in the 40-60 range, way better experience
My opinion, I think people have gotten used to see FRAPS at a certain number, and if they see it lower, then they start looking for the lag, or the stutter, and because they are sure they will see it (because FRAPS says so) they will "see it" even if it is not there.

If I move my mouse from A to B and my cursor/POV moves as soon as I move the mouse;
If my cursor/POV stops exactly when I stop moving the mouse on the place I wanted it;
If I don't see a frame.
If I don't see aliasing; and
If my game looks gorgeous... I'm good.

But that's just me :)
Posted May 18, 2011
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SystemShock7: My opinion, I think people have gotten used to see FRAPS at a certain number, and if they see it lower, then they start looking for the lag, or the stutter, and because they are sure they will see it (because FRAPS says so) they will "see it" even if it is not there.
I love FRAPS but I really don't care...I just want a smooth game. Numbers or not, it runs very poorly. It's not debatable.
Post edited May 18, 2011 by chautemoc
Posted May 19, 2011
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Epona222: Just for comparison (on the off chance that it may help to provide an overview of where problems are occurring for others), my game is running smooth as silk, basic spec and settings below:

AMD Phenom II quad core 3.40GHz
4 Gb RAM
XFX HD5850 1Gb GPU (Catalyst 11.4 drivers)
Win 7 Home Premium (64bit)

Settings:
Res: 1920 x 1080
Fullscreen: Enabled
Tex Downscaling: None
Tex Mem Size: Large
Shadow Qual: Ultra
Shadowed Lights: Ultra
LOD: Far
Bloom: Enabled
Light Shafts: Enabled
Anti-aliasing: Enabled
Blur Effects: Enabled
Depth of Field: Enabled
Vignette: Enabled
Wet Surfaces: Enabled
SSAO: Enabled
Motion Blur: Enabled
Cinematic DoF: Enabled
DoF Cutscenes: Enabled
Dangling objects limit: Disabled
UberSampling: Disabled
Vertical Sync: Enabled
Decals: High Spec
Yesterday I switched to Ultra, Uber off and the rest as default, and I can play the game now. FPS range between 30-45, which is smoother enough for me. I really don't know what changed from the other day besides turning off Uber, but it worked!
Posted May 19, 2011
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LizardKing: Yesterday I switched to Ultra, Uber off and the rest as default, and I can play the game now. FPS range between 30-45, which is smoother enough for me. I really don't know what changed from the other day besides turning off Uber, but it worked!
Well, if you had Uber turned on all the time, that is your culprit. With Uber, the same scene is rendered a few times more to give maximum quality, and that takes its toll.
Posted May 19, 2011
HD6990 is a dual-GPU card. It is known that Crossfire is NOT working with The Witcher 2 as of now. In fact, it actually downgrades your performance to below that of a single GPU configuration.

Quick fix:

-Turn off Catalyst A.I. (This disables Crossfire)
-Turn off Adaptive Anti-Aliassing
-AntiAlias/AnsiotropicFiltering: "Let application determine"

Little more complex fix that enables crossfire:

-Do all of the above EXCEPT for disabling Catalyst A.I., this must be enabled.
-Go into the \bin directory of The Witcher 2.
-Copy the file "witcher2.exe" using copy/paste. You end up with a file "Copy of witcher2.exe"
-Rename the copied file to "dirt2.exe"
-Run the game by running the copied and renamed file directly. Do not use the launcher, it will just run the witcher2.exe instead of the copied/renamed dirt2.exe

-Repeat the copy/rename process after a patch (witcher2.exe may be patched)

This fools the ATI driver into thinking the game "Dirt 2" is being ran; the crossfire profile for this game provides the best performance while not glitching your visuals.

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Twitter from the AMD driver team posted yesterday:

CatalystCreator Andrew D
Stay tuned on the Witcher 2 CAP - we're currently looking at it (for most games the final release is usually different from beta)
Post edited May 19, 2011 by user deleted
Posted May 19, 2011
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MagicBox: HD6990 is a dual-GPU card. It is known that Crossfire is NOT working with The Witcher 2 as of now. In fact, it actually downgrades your performance to below that of a single GPU configuration.

Quick fix:

-Turn off Catalyst A.I. (This disables Crossfire)
-Turn off Adaptive Anti-Aliassing
-AntiAlias/AnsiotropicFiltering: "Let application determine"

Little more complex fix that enables crossfire:

-Do all of the above EXCEPT for disabling Catalyst A.I., this must be enabled.
-Go into the \bin directory of The Witcher 2.
-Copy the file "witcher2.exe" using copy/paste. You end up with a file "Copy of witcher2.exe"
-Rename the copied file to "dirt2.exe"
-Run the game by running the copied and renamed file directly. Do not use the launcher, it will just run the witcher2.exe instead of the copied/renamed dirt2.exe

-Repeat the copy/rename process after a patch (witcher2.exe may be patched)

This fools the ATI driver into thinking the game "Dirt 2" is being ran; the crossfire profile for this game provides the best performance while not glitching your visuals.

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Twitter from the AMD driver team posted yesterday:

CatalystCreator Andrew D
Stay tuned on the Witcher 2 CAP - we're currently looking at it (for most games the final release is usually different from beta)
Nice hack! Will give it a shot!

Thanks!
Posted May 20, 2011
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Pelicashka: An update. I found that my video driver was a year old, even though Windows 7 64 bit was showing it as an up-to-date. After I installed the latest driver performance improved drastically.
I want to quote this (and I am glad the person concerned has sorted it out), to highlight the importance of making sure your drivers are up to date and DON'T ever go by what Windoze tells you.

Go to either the nVidia or AMD website, look up the latest driver version for your graphics card, and manually download and install it.

I am sure most of us know this already, but just want to emphasise the importance of this for those with performance woes, check it yourself do not rely on what Windoze says.

Also when updating drivers, alway make sure to fully uninstall the old drivers before installing the latest version using a utility such as driver cleaner pro to make sure that nothing remains of your old drivers.
Posted May 20, 2011
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SystemShock7: My opinion, I think people have gotten used to see FRAPS at a certain number, and if they see it lower, then they start looking for the lag, or the stutter, and because they are sure they will see it (because FRAPS says so) they will "see it" even if it is not there.
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chautemoc: I love FRAPS but I really don't care...I just want a smooth game. Numbers or not, it runs very poorly. It's not debatable.
lol...numbers go hand in hand of how well it runs...that's not debatable.
Posted May 22, 2011
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chautemoc: I love FRAPS but I really don't care...I just want a smooth game. Numbers or not, it runs very poorly. It's not debatable.
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kindiboy: lol...numbers go hand in hand of how well it runs...that's not debatable.
Actually that's not entirely true either. Some games play very well with FRAPS reporting 25fps or so because there is zero stuttering while other might show a great frame rate but have a lot of jerkiness.

Thankfully I'm finding TW2 to play very well even when the fps drops to mid-twenties (in general I have it between 40-60 though). If others are noticing jerkiness it could be due to the texture memory size setting being too low or high.
Posted May 22, 2011
Win7 Ultimate 64
i7 950 @4.25GHz
6 G RAM
2x GTX 570 @819MHz
1920x1080 all visual details maxed with:
Ubersampling off = 60fps (VSync)
Ubersampling on = 20ish fps

In order to run SLI the latest Nvidia drivers seem to be necessary but even one 570 seemed to handle it pretty well. I have to say that the game has run very smoothly for me, the fps never drops below a smooth 60fps with Ubersampling off, I think it's probably just a driver issue for those with ATi issues, hopefully to be resolved quickly. I still need to turn off SLI for Witcher 1 to stop light sources from shining through terrain, hopefully the driver support will be better this time around.
Post edited May 22, 2011 by specials4uc3
Posted May 22, 2011
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chautemoc: I love FRAPS but I really don't care...I just want a smooth game. Numbers or not, it runs very poorly. It's not debatable.
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kindiboy: lol...numbers go hand in hand of how well it runs...that's not debatable.
I don't think you understood what I was saying... sure if FRAPS says 5 FPS, ok.
No, I am talking about having this number in our head which you think is good, but seeing anything less than that number, convinces you there is something wrong ansd you satrt "seeing" something wrong even if it is not there.
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