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grar564: I have never read any of the books so all of the references to Ciri and Yennefer were lost on me.

So if in fact TW3 does involve finding Yennefer where you would expect to make a choice between her and Triss, I imagine some misfortune will come to one of them to avoid the choice altogether as everyone unfamiliar with the novels will lean towards Triss.
You can choose the neutral path and go with Shani haha.
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revial: It'd totally fit the Geralt and Yen thing too, with their whole on (madly in love) and off (secretly madly in love while being passive aggressively mean to each other) again relationship over the years.

Hasn't Yen always been a bit.....steely-eyed towards Triss and her affections for Geralt? :p Could be fun to see how this plays out in W3. It certainly wouldn't be out of character for her to do something to Triss, seeing as Yen is quite a bit stronger than her.
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kyogen: I'd enjoy it, and here's why:

Yennefer and Triss were friends, very close friends for sorceresses, long before Geralt came into the picture. When he did, he tied himself to Yen by magic, so the relationship is real but more than a little warped. Triss couldn't understand the whole thing and seduced Geralt out of curiosity. She didn't expect to fall in love with him, but she did, and it cost her the most important friendship in her life, though she remained generally quite loyal to Yennefer. When Yennefer eventually found out through Ciri, yes, she was rather annoyed.

How much do you want to know about the end of the book saga since the English-language publishers are taking their sweet time with the translations? Nothing counts as a spoiler for me, but that makes it tough to judge what other people can and can't take. Basically, Yennefer is older and more powerful than Triss, but every so often, under real stress, Triss will bust out mega-powerful spells (sometimes with help from other mages but not always) that she can't do at any other time. She's powerful in her own right, but she has much less control over it and is much less consistent than most other sorceresses we meet in the saga. She's also saved both Geralt and Yennefer's lives on separate occasions, so things are really really really complicated. Could be great fun in a third game. :)
man spoil everything, It's hard to get a hold of the books and I don't have much time to read 'em

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Constantine21: Geralt's and Yennefer's fates were linked basically from their first encounter ("The Last Wish"). The power of predestination is one of the main things that drives the story in all the books in the series so it would be a pity if CDPR decided to just overlook this fact and present the gamers with a choice between Triss and Yennefer. Here is what I believe will happen in "The Witcher 3": (SPOILERS)

As we know, in "The Lady Of The Lake" Ciri found herself in a world inhabited by different elves who possessed the power to cross between dimensions (worlds, spheres) just as she did. They wanted her to beget a child from their king in order to prevent the ancient Prophecy of Ithlina from coming true but she escaped and they followed her in every world she visited. In "The Witcher 2" we learn that some weird elves kidnapped Yennefer and I believe that it is safe to assume that these are the same elves who hunted Ciri. Knowing how much Ciri loves Geralt and Yennefer I think that the elves wanted to use them to lure the girl. Basically "The Witcher 3" will introduce Ciri into the storyline and will consist of Geralt recovering his memories and finding Yennefer. If the player be presented with a choice between Yen and Triss there should be tragic consequences for choosing Triss since Destiny is not something one can play with in the world of "The Witcher".
SPOILER

In the Gargoyle Contract quest in Chapter 3 you get a sword which tells you that the Wild Hunts goal is to fling open all the gates between worlds but it requires all the children of Lara or something like that.
Post edited July 08, 2011 by goopit
I don't really think we can predict what role Yennefer will have in the next game. I imagine that some sort of ending with Geralt hooking up with Yennefer will be possible, whether ending in life or death for both, I have no idea. I can't really imagine CDPR just ignoring all the time they've spent on Triss and her role in the story either, and I think forcing her into the backseat (again) in favor of Yennefer would anger a lot of people. CDPR has cornered themselves in that regard.

The destiny theme is certainly prevalent in the books, though I'm not so sure how much it will be in the next game. CDPR can write it however they like.
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Cheapo: I don't really think we can predict what role Yennefer will have in the next game. I imagine that some sort of ending with Geralt hooking up with Yennefer will be possible, whether ending in life or death for both, I have no idea. I can't really imagine CDPR just ignoring all the time they've spent on Triss and her role in the story either, and I think forcing her into the backseat (again) in favor of Yennefer would anger a lot of people. CDPR has cornered themselves in that regard.

The destiny theme is certainly prevalent in the books, though I'm not so sure how much it will be in the next game. CDPR can write it however they like.
Maybe they'll can Triss like how they canned Shani.

No... I'm just joking. Triss is too central of a character in the books to be put to the backseat.
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goopit: man spoil everything, It's hard to get a hold of the books and I don't have much time to read 'em
I'm sorry you think so because I don't want to demotivate anyone from reading the books, but really, no I haven't spoiled everything. There's so much more in the books that's worth checking out--in general and between Triss and Yennefer--if you ever have the chance.
I have read whole Saga and I am convinced that Lady of Lake in the 4th chapter of TW1 is actually Ciri. She has hair color as described in the books and she also said (in game) that time has no meaning for her and knows Geralt for a long time.

Triss is rather side person in the book, not so important as in the games. Shani appears only in the chapter related to the battle of Brena.
Post edited July 08, 2011 by marsark
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marsark: I have read whole Saga and I am convinced that Lady of Lake in the 4th chapter of TW1 is actually Ciri. She has hair color as described in the books and she also said (in game) that time has no meaning for her and knows Geralt for a long time.

Triss is rather side person in the book, not so important as in the games. Shani appears only in the chapter related to the battle of Brena.
I'm not positive about the identification of Ciri with the Lady of the Lake: doesn't she deny being the Lady in the first chapter of Pani Jeziora, and the Lady is Nimue, who helps Ciri, at the end?

Also, TW1 would be even squickier if Ciri was the Lady of the Lake.
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cjrgreen: I'm not positive about the identification of Ciri with the Lady of the Lake: doesn't she deny being the Lady in the first chapter of Pani Jeziora, and the Lady is Nimue, who helps Ciri, at the end?

Also, TW1 would be even squickier if Ciri was the Lady of the Lake.
Hm, this is also possible explanation. Its hairs color, sword given to Geralt and fact, that all Knights of Lady of Lake have died (anybody who meet with Ciri must die) points to Ciri is Lady of Lake, but the appearance of Knight Fisherman in the 4th chapter points to Nimue is Lady of Lake.
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marsark: She has hair color as described in the books and she also said (in game) that time has no meaning for her and knows Geralt for a long time.
Those evidence seemed inconclusive at best if you trying to link between Ciri and Lady of the Lake (I haven't read the books, thanks to Gollancz, but I'm just judging from what you said)
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cjrgreen: I'm not positive about the identification of Ciri with the Lady of the Lake: doesn't she deny being the Lady in the first chapter of Pani Jeziora, and the Lady is Nimue, who helps Ciri, at the end?

Also, TW1 would be even squickier if Ciri was the Lady of the Lake.
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marsark: Hm, this is also possible explanation. Its hairs color, sword given to Geralt and fact, that all Knights of Lady of Lake have died (anybody who meet with Ciri must die) points to Ciri is Lady of Lake, but the appearance of Knight Fisherman in the 4th chapter points to Nimue is Lady of Lake.
But wasn't Nimue born long after the events from the books occurred? I mean, she referred to them as legends, so I suppose it had to be a really long time, think about hundreds of years. In my opinion, it's more like an Eastern Egg, or a nod for those who read the books.
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Germanicanus: But wasn't Nimue born long after the events from the books occurred? I mean, she referred to them as legends, so I suppose it had to be a really long time, think about hundreds of years. In my opinion, it's more like an Eastern Egg, or a nod for those who read the books.
In one chapter of the Saga (can't remember which book) there is a small village which was visited by folk storyteller called 'Pohvizd' (in Czech translation). This man amused surrounding children by telling them story of Gerald and Ciri. On of these children was denoted as Nimue at very small age (about 5 years I thing). Later Ciri meets Nimue two times for short while crossing different time spheres.

So I thing that in time-line of TW1 Lady of Lake can't be a Nimue. Also the color of Ciri's hair is noted to be unique, not seen before such shade of ash-grey color.
@Marsark: Dude, I have read the books. The scene with the storyteller and young Nimue happened in the last book, IIRC. I think we both agree that Nimue can't be The Lady of Lake, so no need to dwell on this anymore. Now, speaking of Ciri... kind of troublemaking, giving that she may appeared in W3. Personally speaking, she deserves a better appearance in the game than simple being some third-class NPC. And I don't think everyone who meet with Ciri must die - Fabio Sachs, the boy who guided her while she was in some port city, lived a long and successful life (he was a explorer, just like Columbus).
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Germanicanus: @Marsark: Dude, I have read the books. The scene with the storyteller and young Nimue happened in the last book, IIRC. I think we both agree that Nimue can't be The Lady of Lake, so no need to dwell on this anymore. Now, speaking of Ciri... kind of troublemaking, giving that she may appeared in W3. Personally speaking, she deserves a better appearance in the game than simple being some third-class NPC. And I don't think everyone who meet with Ciri must die - Fabio Sachs, the boy who guided her while she was in some port city, lived a long and successful life (he was a explorer, just like Columbus).
Yes, thats true. She met Fabio in Gors Velen when heading with Yennefer to Aretuza and Thanedd. Also Jarre of Ellander survived meet with Ciri.
Ciri is not that bad after all ;-) But my money is on Yennefer being the boss or at least playing antagonist role. It is known.
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Germanicanus: Ciri is not that bad after all ;-) But my money is on Yennefer being the boss or at least playing antagonist role. It is known.
Haven't read much about grown up Ciri (given my limitation of only understanding English) but I liked little Ciri a lot, she always makes me smile :)